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LakerLanny Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:45 am Post subject: |
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The team looks old, slow and with little interest in playing defense.
Right now it is an absolute mess. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:11 am Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | 8-9 with a ridiculously generous schedule.
Imagine if they had the Bulls early schedule. They would be 4-13 or worse. |
3-0 in OT so with one of the easiest early schedule, 8-9 is still fortunate. So as bad as the Lakers are looking right now, I think the team is actually worse than it looks. _________________ Playoffs is good enough. - Jeanie Buss 2024 |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:19 am Post subject: |
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lakersfever714 wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | 8-9 with a ridiculously generous schedule.
Imagine if they had the Bulls early schedule. They would be 4-13 or worse. |
3-0 in OT so with one of the easiest early schedule, 8-9 is still fortunate. So as bad as the Lakers are looking right now, I think the team is actually worse than it looks. |
No doubt. 3 of the 8 wins needing OT is not a good look.
And it’s not like these OT games were against GS or Suns. It was Spurs, Butler-less Heat and I forget the 3rd, but it wasn’t against GS or Phoenix so definitely was against one of the mediocre teams. |
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Hammett Star Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:50 am Post subject: |
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I think if we fire Vogel and Lebron is 100%.
Maybe we have a chance. But for sure, the coaching needs to change. _________________ Lakers. Built different. |
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ahaider Star Player
Joined: 21 Feb 2012 Posts: 3501
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Hammett wrote: | I think if we fire Vogel and Lebron is 100%.
Maybe we have a chance. But for sure, the coaching needs to change. |
I wouldn’t fire Vogel. I’d hire Terry Stots as an assistant and have him run the offense.
Our defensive issues are personnel issues - you need young role players to play defense.
Offensively - we digress into iso ball too frequently. Bring in Stots to run the offense and he can get us a top 5 offense.
Firing Vogel is effective to waiving the white flag on the season for Fizdale’s failure. Fizdale has never run a top 5 offense and when he was a HC they ran some of the worst offensive schemes ever seen. See cranjis_basketball’s Twitter _________________ Author of James Harden and the Strip Club
"The key to good decision making is not knowledge. It is understanding. We are swimming in the former. We are desperately lacking in the latter." - Malcom Gladwell |
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Ksig Star Player
Joined: 03 Dec 2016 Posts: 2098
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:02 am Post subject: |
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ahaider wrote: | Hammett wrote: | I think if we fire Vogel and Lebron is 100%.
Maybe we have a chance. But for sure, the coaching needs to change. |
I wouldn’t fire Vogel. I’d hire Terry Stots as an assistant and have him run the offense.
Our defensive issues are personnel issues - you need young role players to play defense.
Offensively - we digress into iso ball too frequently. Bring in Stots to run the offense and he can get us a top 5 offense.
Firing Vogel is effective to waiving the white flag on the season for Fizdale’s failure. Fizdale has never run a top 5 offense and when he was a HC they ran some of the worst offensive schemes ever seen. See cranjis_basketball’s Twitter |
Im all for bringing in offensive help, but one of the main complaints from Portland fans about Stotts was that he just let Dame and CJ take turns isoing. |
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Lucky_Shot Star Player
Joined: 10 Jan 2016 Posts: 5161
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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Key stat in the headline, 8-9... meaning we're only 17 games into the season and it's not even 2022, hell it's not even December. People need to stop getting lost in the moment.
There's still 65 games left and people losing their minds I'm here. Patience |
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KindCrippler2000 Franchise Player
Joined: 02 May 2003 Posts: 15821
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Just make the play-in and anything is possible. However, it would be nice to start building chemistry and not have dudes getting hurt before that time. |
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pjiddy Retired Number
Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 29078
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Some depressing stats:
We've had the 5th easiest schedule so far
Our expected win-loss record, based on that SOS and our negative point differential?
6-11 |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: | Some depressing stats:
We've had the 5th easiest schedule so far
Our expected win-loss record, based on that SOS and our negative point differential?
6-11 |
Ouch. And the team is boring to watch, too. _________________ Under New Management |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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KindCrippler2000 wrote: | Just make the play-in and anything is possible. However, it would be nice to start building chemistry and not have dudes getting hurt before that time. |
Injuries are officially part of our teams make up. So much so you should just refer to injuries as a player on the roster. |
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Drifts Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:49 am Post subject: |
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fortunately, Laker fans have not reached their limits unlike Kings fans... the Kings actually made their fan puke watching them play basketball. Literally.
LOL _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
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PenG_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:09 am Post subject: |
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As others have mentioned, the record doesn't tell the whole story. Point differential adjusted for strength of schedule, we're currently ranked 25th in the league.
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kikanga Retired Number
Joined: 15 Sep 2012 Posts: 29381 Location: La La Land
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Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:09 am Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | pjiddy wrote: | Some depressing stats:
We've had the 5th easiest schedule so far
Our expected win-loss record, based on that SOS and our negative point differential?
6-11 |
Ouch. And the team is boring to watch, too. |
Reminds me of our first games in the bubble. When we were finishing off the regular season games before the playoffs started, and Rondo was hurt.
UGLY to watch! _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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