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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:30 pm Post subject:
Warhol’s art was about the scene and the consumption and the “happening”. He was satirizing pop art while “making” it. Ironically, he probably did it for the extreme attention it afforded him, meaning he was only partially deliberately satirizing pop art but really making money and celebrity by satirizing the buyers through their consumption. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:54 pm Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
Warhol’s art was about the scene and the consumption and the “happening”. He was satirizing pop art while “making” it. Ironically, he probably did it for the extreme attention it afforded him, meaning he was only partially deliberately satirizing pop art but really making money and celebrity by satirizing the buyers through their consumption.
Yeah, he's commonly referred to as a member of the Pop Art movement, but in truth, he was a scene unto himself. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Warhol’s art was about the scene and the consumption and the “happening”. He was satirizing pop art while “making” it. Ironically, he probably did it for the extreme attention it afforded him, meaning he was only partially deliberately satirizing pop art but really making money and celebrity by satirizing the buyers through their consumption.
Yeah, he's commonly referred to as a member of the Pop Art movement, but in truth, he was a scene unto himself.
His buddy Basquiat is Brooklyn's quintuple jersey variant thingy subject. I've tuned out on the season, but iirc they had that Basquiat floor out for the Lakers gm. He got his start from appearing with Andy. Warhol was sinking in status toward the end and JMB was just starting to rise. Probably a mutually beneficial relationship. They did dual paintings. The movie about JMB starring Jeffrey Wright was good. They delved into that whole thing w/ David Bowie as Warhol.
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 7:25 pm Post subject:
non-player zealot wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Warhol’s art was about the scene and the consumption and the “happening”. He was satirizing pop art while “making” it. Ironically, he probably did it for the extreme attention it afforded him, meaning he was only partially deliberately satirizing pop art but really making money and celebrity by satirizing the buyers through their consumption.
Yeah, he's commonly referred to as a member of the Pop Art movement, but in truth, he was a scene unto himself.
His buddy Basquiat is Brooklyn's quintuple jersey variant thingy subject. I've tuned out on the season, but iirc they had that Basquiat floor out for the Lakers gm. He got his start from appearing with Andy. Warhol was sinking in status toward the end and JMB was just starting to rise. Probably a mutually beneficial relationship. They did dual paintings. The movie about JMB starring Jeffrey Wright was good. They delved into that whole thing w/ David Bowie as Warhol.
Basquiat actually got his start from grafitti as SAMO (before there was banksy) and was “discovered” before he hooked up with Warhol. Warhol actually probably (bleep) him up. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Warhol’s art was about the scene and the consumption and the “happening”. He was satirizing pop art while “making” it. Ironically, he probably did it for the extreme attention it afforded him, meaning he was only partially deliberately satirizing pop art but really making money and celebrity by satirizing the buyers through their consumption.
Yeah, he's commonly referred to as a member of the Pop Art movement, but in truth, he was a scene unto himself.
His buddy Basquiat is Brooklyn's quintuple jersey variant thingy subject. I've tuned out on the season, but iirc they had that Basquiat floor out for the Lakers gm. He got his start from appearing with Andy. Warhol was sinking in status toward the end and JMB was just starting to rise. Probably a mutually beneficial relationship. They did dual paintings. The movie about JMB starring Jeffrey Wright was good. They delved into that whole thing w/ David Bowie as Warhol.
Basquiat actually got his start from grafitti as SAMO (before there was banksy) and was “discovered” before he hooked up with Warhol. Warhol actually probably (bleep) him up.
Not to turn this into the art thread, but JMB's association with Warhol raised his bona fides quickly is what I mean. The movie didn't portray their relationship as the predatory kind (e.g. Edison to younger Tesla), but they were friendly enough to do some collaboz. I'm sure Warhol enjoyed the association at that point of his life, making him newly relevant. I don't know if he was even producing reproduction at that point of his life/career. An aging artist whose works I like is de Kooning. His various periods are all interesting to me, to include his abstract sculptures. He died in 1997 and had dementia and critics say his stuff from the 1980s is a reflection of his declining faculties, but I doubt that. The 80s works are more refined and honed down, lines more than colored blotches of his earlier works. Aesthetically nice looking a lot of them. If I ever come up with a few hundred million bucks or so, I might buy a couple.
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:05 am Post subject:
Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day is not true if said clock has a second hand. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 9:21 am Post subject:
FernieBee wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Even a Broken Clock is Right Twice a Day is not true if said clock has a second hand.
What if all three hands have stopped?
Or if it's a digital clock?
It's true in all scenarios, even if a clock has a second hand. Brain fart. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2021 4:43 pm Post subject:
non-player zealot wrote:
What art do you and Muley fancy? Who are your faves?
My top 5 off the top of my head:
Dine
Hockney
Ruscha
Johns
Rauschenberg _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jean-Michel Basquiat
Gordon Parks _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
What art do you and Muley fancy? Who are your faves?
My top 5 off the top of my head:
Dine
Hockney
Ruscha
Johns
Rauschenberg
I know them all to some extent, you're a contemporary art kinda dude. I think Ed Ruscha is to me what Banksy is to Patsy. He feels gimmicky, but he did find a gimmick that worked and stuck with it. Most of those guys are huh? artists to me, but you're probably past me conceptually. I am drawn to aesthetics more than concept if I had to go with one or the other. Hockney's pools are a headscratcher at first look, but there's all kind of imagery conjured up by water/pools/reflections. Jim Dine hearts. Jasper Johns' flags were a smart idea, that image is always in as far as American taste goes, tho I'm not a flag person. Collages are often interesting, so I'll spot you Rauschenberg. Is Robert Indiana in that group? I found out not too long ago that he did the MECCA Bucks floor in the 70s, which makes sense only after having seen his work and giant letters and particular font and colors. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 6:25 am Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
non-player zealot wrote:
What art do you and Muley fancy? Who are your faves?
My top 5 off the top of my head:
Dine
Hockney
Ruscha
Johns
Rauschenberg
I’m mostly into dogs playing poker _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2021 11:34 am Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
non-player zealot wrote:
What art do you and Muley fancy? Who are your faves?
My top 5 off the top of my head:
Dine
Hockney
Ruscha
Johns
Rauschenberg
I’m mostly into dogs playing poker
For some reason, can't put a finger on it, I don't see you as a Coolidge kinda guy. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2021 7:04 am Post subject:
Art is a mystery to me. A person can dip sponges in different paint colors, throw them at a canvas, call it art, and get paid. SMFH _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
One of my favorites by him. As in his other works, his ability to capture the flow and joy of movement in a static image is superb. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 4:51 pm Post subject:
non-player zealot wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
non-player zealot wrote:
What art do you and Muley fancy? Who are your faves?
My top 5 off the top of my head:
Dine
Hockney
Ruscha
Johns
Rauschenberg
I know them all to some extent, you're a contemporary art kinda dude. I think Ed Ruscha is to me what Banksy is to Patsy. He feels gimmicky, but he did find a gimmick that worked and stuck with it. Most of those guys are huh? artists to me, but you're probably past me conceptually. I am drawn to aesthetics more than concept if I had to go with one or the other. Hockney's pools are a headscratcher at first look, but there's all kind of imagery conjured up by water/pools/reflections. Jim Dine hearts. Jasper Johns' flags were a smart idea, that image is always in as far as American taste goes, tho I'm not a flag person. Collages are often interesting, so I'll spot you Rauschenberg. Is Robert Indiana in that group? I found out not too long ago that he did the MECCA Bucks floor in the 70s, which makes sense only after having seen his work and giant letters and particular font and colors.
I enjoy and appreciate all kinds of art. But those guys strike a chord in me because it relates so closely to my own work back in the day (not by any means comparing myself to them).
They all use mixed media and a variety of stylistic expression- some graphic, some abstract, some representational, not locked into one thing—even though pretty much all of them are associated with a particular iconic series.
Dine's up there at the top of my list for his drawings. I was was much more into drawing and printmaking than painting and sculpture, though I enjoyed doing some mixed media pieces along the lines of Rauchenberg's Combines. I love the look and feel of graphite and charcoal on paper. Dine's Tools series really resonated with me for that reason. The chaotic, yet realistic renderings were reminiscent of the work I liked to do in my drawings. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 4:57 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
Art is a mystery to me. A person can dip sponges in different paint colors, throw them at a canvas, call it art, and get paid. SMFH
Only if somebody actually likes it and buys it. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 5:18 pm Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Art is a mystery to me. A person can dip sponges in different paint colors, throw them at a canvas, call it art, and get paid. SMFH
Only if somebody actually likes it and buys it.
Make sense of this It's called beautiful art. That's why art is a mystery to me. SMFH _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 5:33 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Art is a mystery to me. A person can dip sponges in different paint colors, throw them at a canvas, call it art, and get paid. SMFH
Only if somebody actually likes it and buys it.
Make sense of this It's called beautiful art. That's why art is a mystery to me. SMFH
That is so stupid, it upsets me.
Art is an exhibition for subjectivity.
Funny the link uses the word beautiful. Beauty is one of the most subjective things in the world. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2021 6:08 pm Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Art is a mystery to me. A person can dip sponges in different paint colors, throw them at a canvas, call it art, and get paid. SMFH
Only if somebody actually likes it and buys it.
Make sense of this It's called beautiful art. That's why art is a mystery to me. SMFH
That links not working for me, so hard for me to do so. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Art is a mystery to me. A person can dip sponges in different paint colors, throw them at a canvas, call it art, and get paid. SMFH
Only if somebody actually likes it and buys it.
Make sense of this It's called beautiful art. That's why art is a mystery to me. SMFH
That links not working for me, so hard for me to do so.
Two people put dollops of uncomplimentary acrylic colors in what they considered "Pollock style" on a small canvas and a dude threw it like a frisbee and a big dollop of silver/gray overcoated the other colors making it mostly pointless for what they were trying to achieve. Damien Hirst does those centrifugal paintings, but he actually knows how to do them.
https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-KI451_HIRST__P_20150916164917.jpg
Hirst the former tagger famous for polka dots. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
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