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vkewalra Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:11 am Post subject: |
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RusselDoeee01 wrote: | epak wrote: |
How about he comes off the bench when he gets healthy? |
The second best player on a team doesn’t come off the bench |
Manu did. It’s about matchups and lineups that work together, maximizing the teams assets. It’s about winning the game at the expense of your personal pride.
I’d say he’s underperforming next to Lebron and he’d be better as the alpha on the floor for more of the game, which means coming off the bench. It doesn’t mean he plays less minutes just that his minutes may have a more positive outcome on the final score. |
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danzag Franchise Player
Joined: 28 Apr 2013 Posts: 22430 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:16 am Post subject: |
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That block on DeMar (and creating a shotclock violation) was a thing of beauty |
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durden-tyler Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:21 am Post subject: |
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vkewalra wrote: | RusselDoeee01 wrote: | epak wrote: |
How about he comes off the bench when he gets healthy? |
The second best player on a team doesn’t come off the bench |
Manu did. It’s about matchups and lineups that work together, maximizing the teams assets. It’s about winning the game at the expense of your personal pride.
I’d say he’s underperforming next to Lebron and he’d be better as the alpha on the floor for more of the game, which means coming off the bench. It doesn’t mean he plays less minutes just that his minutes may have a more positive outcome on the final score. |
If he's out for a long time, we'll have a look about what Hart can provide with the first unit. Could lead Walton making some changes, but I doubt it, we're winning, our defense is improving A LOT, and I think we're back on track offensively.
In some ways, Hart has some qualities that will fit better with LeBron (just like Kuz), but IMO it will lead to going back to Cavs LeBron, and I don't think that's what the Lakers want... |
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lakersfan8 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:49 am Post subject: |
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This reminds me of where we were 2 years ago. We were playing well in the beginning of the season and then injury started to trouble us then we were never the same team again |
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Sago Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:51 am Post subject: |
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lakersfan8 wrote: | This reminds me of where we were 2 years ago. We were playing well in the beginning of the season and then injury started to trouble us then we were never the same team again |
I think there’s a bit of a difference this year |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:10 am Post subject: |
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55 wrote: | We really missed his defense on DD. He used his length well against him.
He keeps improving at a steady pace, not to the liking of some who want him to break-out. I’m still behind him 100% and believe he’ll be a star once his body develops some more. |
That sequence where he blocked DRoz on the drive was a thing of beauty b/c even though DRoz thought he beat BI to the middle of the lane, BI's insane length compensated. That's the BI I want to see, a shut down artist. He's already locked up a few guys.
What's the latest update on his injury? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:14 am Post subject: |
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If BI is out for some time, would love to see some Bonga time. SVI struggling mightily right now and maybe he could use the G League to get his confidence up. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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lakerican Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:45 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | 55 wrote: | We really missed his defense on DD. He used his length well against him.
He keeps improving at a steady pace, not to the liking of some who want him to break-out. I’m still behind him 100% and believe he’ll be a star once his body develops some more. |
That sequence where he blocked DRoz on the drive was a thing of beauty b/c even though DRoz thought he beat BI to the middle of the lane, BI's insane length compensated. That's the BI I want to see, a shut down artist. He's already locked up a few guys.
What's the latest update on his injury? |
With BI out, our defense suffered a lot last night and our second unit offense with Lance @ PG was horrible. Maybe Rondo plays tomorrow. |
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durden-tyler Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:55 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | If BI is out for some time, would love to see some Bonga time. SVI struggling mightily right now and maybe he could use the G League to get his confidence up. |
He had his confidence boosted (think he shot 6/7 or 7/8 from 3 in his last game) in his last game in G-League, what he needs is more playing time at NBA level to get out of his mental issue. I can't see how the team or Bongo would benefit from playing him right now at NBA level, he's clearly not ready from a basketball standpoint, which is not the case with Svi... |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:42 am Post subject: |
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lakerican wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | 55 wrote: | We really missed his defense on DD. He used his length well against him.
He keeps improving at a steady pace, not to the liking of some who want him to break-out. I’m still behind him 100% and believe he’ll be a star once his body develops some more. |
That sequence where he blocked DRoz on the drive was a thing of beauty b/c even though DRoz thought he beat BI to the middle of the lane, BI's insane length compensated. That's the BI I want to see, a shut down artist. He's already locked up a few guys.
What's the latest update on his injury? |
With BI out, our defense suffered a lot last night and our second unit offense with Lance @ PG was horrible. Maybe Rondo plays tomorrow. |
Yep. Hopefully Rondo can go. |
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Lakesh0wtime Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:48 am Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | https://mobile.twitter.com/michaeljduarte/status/1070567265693720576
BI was apparently on crutches. |
Gone for 25 games or more.
Too brittle
Thought u were done debating on this site? |
Man shut the hell up. It was a dirty play. Understand you’re a hater but at least have logic behind it |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:50 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | If BI is out for some time, would love to see some Bonga time. SVI struggling mightily right now and maybe he could use the G League to get his confidence up. |
U just wanna say Bonga Time Yin |
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VicXLakers Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Lakesh0wtime wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | https://mobile.twitter.com/michaeljduarte/status/1070567265693720576
BI was apparently on crutches. |
Gone for 25 games or more.
Too brittle
Thought u were done debating on this site? |
Man shut the hell up. It was a dirty play. Understand you’re a hater but at least have logic behind it |
You shouldn't let things jesusjustleftchicago says bother you...he just having a little fun |
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Steaming hot take: he doesn’t start another game for the Lakers. |
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Lakesh0wtime Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:25 am Post subject: |
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BigGameHames wrote: | Steaming hot take: he doesn’t start another game for the Lakers. |
I have a feeling he’ll be out till next week and he might get traded on the 15th |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:45 am Post subject: |
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BigGameHames wrote: | Steaming hot take: he doesn’t start another game for the Lakers. |
fine by me. as long as we get solid return. |
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Jesusdelonla wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | Steaming hot take: he doesn’t start another game for the Lakers. |
fine by me. as long as we get solid return. |
I’m not necessarily saying it’ll be because of a trade. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Lakesh0wtime wrote: |
Man shut the hell up. It was a dirty play. Understand you’re a hater but at least have logic behind it |
take a chill pill. how old are u? 8/12?
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CRoost Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:55 am Post subject: |
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lakerican wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | 55 wrote: | We really missed his defense on DD. He used his length well against him.
He keeps improving at a steady pace, not to the liking of some who want him to break-out. I’m still behind him 100% and believe he’ll be a star once his body develops some more. |
That sequence where he blocked DRoz on the drive was a thing of beauty b/c even though DRoz thought he beat BI to the middle of the lane, BI's insane length compensated. That's the BI I want to see, a shut down artist. He's already locked up a few guys.
What's the latest update on his injury? |
With BI out, our defense suffered a lot last night and our second unit offense with Lance @ PG was horrible. Maybe Rondo plays tomorrow. |
The flow in our offense is better though but BI can run the 2nd unit and get it going. BI have to learned to fit with Lebron though and that is no hesitation to let it fly beyond the arc, less dribble and more on moving the ball.
If he’s out for awhile, he’s gotta take the Ariza approach. I remember him never had a range and when he was injured , he came back with a 3 ball . BI already has the 3 ball, he just need to make it a weapon. |
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Mr.81 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:00 am Post subject: |
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BigGameHames wrote: | Steaming hot take: he doesn’t start another game for the Lakers. |
Only if he is traded which I doubt, so he will be starting again once he's back. |
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55 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:01 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | 55 wrote: | We really missed his defense on DD. He used his length well against him.
He keeps improving at a steady pace, not to the liking of some who want him to break-out. I’m still behind him 100% and believe he’ll be a star once his body develops some more. |
That sequence where he blocked DRoz on the drive was a thing of beauty b/c even though DRoz thought he beat BI to the middle of the lane, BI's insane length compensated. That's the BI I want to see, a shut down artist. He's already locked up a few guys.
What's the latest update on his injury? |
He blocked him even after DRoz traveled. |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:03 am Post subject: |
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55 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | 55 wrote: | We really missed his defense on DD. He used his length well against him.
He keeps improving at a steady pace, not to the liking of some who want him to break-out. I’m still behind him 100% and believe he’ll be a star once his body develops some more. |
That sequence where he blocked DRoz on the drive was a thing of beauty b/c even though DRoz thought he beat BI to the middle of the lane, BI's insane length compensated. That's the BI I want to see, a shut down artist. He's already locked up a few guys.
What's the latest update on his injury? |
He blocked him even after DRoz traveled. |
DRoz def took an extra step with the left foot |
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BigGameHames Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Mr.81 wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | Steaming hot take: he doesn’t start another game for the Lakers. |
Only if he is traded which I doubt, so he will be starting again once he's back. |
Well see. I don’t think it’s a given if the Zo/Hart/Bron/Kuz/center lineup keeps playing as well as it has. |
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CRoost Star Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:10 am Post subject: |
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BigGameHames wrote: | Mr.81 wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | Steaming hot take: he doesn’t start another game for the Lakers. |
Only if he is traded which I doubt, so he will be starting again once he's back. |
Well see. I don’t think it’s a given if the Zo/Hart/Bron/Kuz/center lineup keeps playing as well as it has. |
Defense will be an issue. Lebron has to do a lot with that lineup just for us to stay above water and that won’t be good in a long run especially in marathon like in a regular season. We need to preserve Lebron for when it matters. |
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Jesusdelonla Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:11 am Post subject: |
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CRoost wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | Mr.81 wrote: | BigGameHames wrote: | Steaming hot take: he doesn’t start another game for the Lakers. |
Only if he is traded which I doubt, so he will be starting again once he's back. |
Well see. I don’t think it’s a given if the Zo/Hart/Bron/Kuz/center lineup keeps playing as well as it has. |
Defense will be an issue. Lebron has to do a lot with that lineup just for us to stay above water and that won’t be good in a long run especially in marathon like in a regular season. We need to preserve Lebron for when it matters. |
Kuzma can handle the iso responsibility that bi had which gave LeBron a breather |
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