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venturalakersfan
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I am going out on a limb and predicting that former Illini great Deron Williams will have a good game.
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Kidd is much easier since he can't shoot.
How can we contain him? We can't. All there is to it.
What we CAN do is let him get his points and stay on the other guys so he doesn't get his assists as well. |
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Wags_16
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I hope I'm wrong but I think it's not going to be very pretty with Utah's inside game.
Utah 105, Lakers 93 |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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You gotta go old school on a guy like Williams. Hopefully the Lakers sent a few bottles of champaign and a couple "ladies of the evening" by his house last night.
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| frijolero01 wrote: | | a well placed banana peel under derron williams. |
I like your thinking. How about an oil slick in front of the Utah bench? |
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| Doesn't make sense putting Kobe on him since they're going to pick and roll him to death. I'd put Sasha on him, and make Deron a shooter. Don't let Boozer get too involved offensively. And whn he goes o the basket, I want Ronny to drop him a few times, nothing easy. I'd also like to send in Mbenga to get a couple shots at him. Nothing dirty, just hard. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| brouk9 wrote: | | Doesn't make sense putting Kobe on him since they're going to pick and roll him to death. I'd put Sasha on him, and make Deron a shooter. Don't let Boozer get too involved offensively. And whn he goes o the basket, I want Ronny to drop him a few times, nothing easy. I'd also like to send in Mbenga to get a couple shots at him. Nothing dirty, just hard. |
Disagree here. It was Kobe who used to shut down PGs during the 3peat era. He couldn't do it the last few years because of our unbalanced roster. We have injuries right now, but we still have enough fire power that Kobe doesn't have to go for 50 every night. Besides, Kobe could be a defensive catalyst that helps us get early offense and fastbreaks while thwarting their offense.
I do like putting Sasha on him. could result in a technical or 2  |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Toughest game of the year to win. Toughest place to win and we are short handed. A win would scare the %#@&* out of some other western teams nad help lock Kobe MVP. |
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Total_Package
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I hate to say it, but we are most likely going to lose. Last time we had Bynum and Boozer and Bynum made Boozer play defense. He also gave Boozer a hard time.
Who is going to do it this time? Turiaf?
We dont even have Gasol. Odom isnt much of a threat at all.
If we win, we got lucky... EXTREMELY LUCKY |
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| Panthas wrote: |
Odom actually does well with Boozer, but that can all change with a lack of enthusiam on Odom's part.
The only other factor is Okur....who can basically play that inside outside game. Radman would be the best suited for this job. |
I agree with you and think Odom would do better than Ronny. Because like Stu says "against shotblockers sometimes all you have to do is blink and you will get them in the air" I think this will happen alot with ronny being the main guy defending boozer. I also agree that vlad rad/walton (less walton more vlad rad) would be better suited for okur, but if Odom is on boozer and the 3 is on okur who is Ronny guarding? That part i haven't quite figured out yet. I would think AK would burn Ronny hard. So what do we do? Go small with LO at the 5(LO, vladrad, KB, sasha, + PG) and bring ronny in for millsap or do we keep ronny on okur and lose ronny's effectiveness inside. |
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| That matchup worries me a little bit. Kirilenko is surely faster with the ball and his length might bother Vlad on the other end. I believe that would be a key matchup in what decides the outcome. Thoughts?? |
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well someone could call that sacramento hotel to get their recipe for cheeseburgers...
otherwise i like the idea of using 'the machine'. he needs another member to his fan club. 
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Blitz him on PnR's. Great rotations behind that, on the man rolling/diving to the basket. Takes alot of teamwork. The "when one bead moves on a string, another one takes its place" theory. Guess it would help if the Lakers had more shotblockers than Turiaf.
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| Total_Package wrote: | I hate to say it, but we are most likely going to lose. Last time we had Bynum and Boozer and Bynum made Boozer play defense. He also gave Boozer a hard time.
Who is going to do it this time? Turiaf?
We dont even have Gasol. Odom isnt much of a threat at all.
If we win, we got lucky... EXTREMELY LUCKY |
That's the spirit!!
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DonMagicWand
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Hopefully we have the advantage tonight. I read that AK47 is not himself after the hip injury so maybe he won't tear us apart like previous meetings.
If Rad is still on a shooting streak, we should be OK.
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oldschool32
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Guess I forgot to add that: they can also leave Farmar on the bench, since he has forgotten what defense is. If you want to see Williams going off like crazy on the Lakers, put Farmar on him. I guess some of the opinions on here are about right, I'd rather see Sasha get some minutes on Williams. At least the effort is there.
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I'll be happy if Vlad is on tonight, that way he keeps Kirilenko occupied. Keeping him from providing help defense and blocking shots. That will help open it up just a little more for everyone else.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | I am going out on a limb and predicting that former Illini great Deron Williams will have a good game. |
i hope your limb breaks  |
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| manber34 wrote: | | Total_Package wrote: | I hate to say it, but we are most likely going to lose. Last time we had Bynum and Boozer and Bynum made Boozer play defense. He also gave Boozer a hard time.
Who is going to do it this time? Turiaf?
We dont even have Gasol. Odom isnt much of a threat at all.
If we win, we got lucky... EXTREMELY LUCKY |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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feel good about this game. IMO the news of AB and Pau will energize our guys. Farmar at some point has to play better. Vlad is capable of 2 good games. We be alright tonight
Lakers by 12
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | I am going out on a limb and predicting that former Illini great Deron Williams will have a good game. |
Such a risk taker...lol
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| Kobe needs to have his fadeaway workin well, the double will come harder and it will leave SPOT UP SHOOTERS *ehem* sasha and fisher open. Box out like nobody's business, Ronny needs to have an intense game. Mace Deron's face during pregame? |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Who is Utah's starting SG is it korver or brewer? |
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Utah scores about 106 per game and shoots just under 50%. I don't think this game is a good matchup tonight for the Lakers however the only way I see them staying close is to:
Hold Utah under 43% shooting
Hold Utah under 95 points
Outrebound Utah and limit second chance points
Otherwise, this is not a close game in Utah with the injuries. |
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