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Barry Seal
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| lakersfan32 wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | PrplReign wrote: | | It is interesting to see all of the hate for AR. I see a ton of skill and instinct and footwork. This is a guy who plays well on both sides of the ball. People are complaining he only had seven points in the last game, but that was on three shots. Take a look at the rest of his stat line that night and perhaps pay a little closer attention to his skill set and see if it doesn't pass the eye test. I don't think I'm going too far out on the limb when I say he is likely to have a very long and successful NBA career. |
What hate? |
somebody here said lonnie walker is miles ahead of him, lol |
Whoever said that was right and Lonnie is younger. Reaves is a 10th or 11th man at best on a playoff team. |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Really like AR... But he's better off the bench than a fulltime starter. His skills maximize vs other teams 2nd unit. |
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zambia
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:19 am Post subject: |
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| Barry Seal wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | | PrplReign wrote: | | It is interesting to see all of the hate for AR. I see a ton of skill and instinct and footwork. This is a guy who plays well on both sides of the ball. People are complaining he only had seven points in the last game, but that was on three shots. Take a look at the rest of his stat line that night and perhaps pay a little closer attention to his skill set and see if it doesn't pass the eye test. I don't think I'm going too far out on the limb when I say he is likely to have a very long and successful NBA career. |
What hate? |
somebody here said lonnie walker is miles ahead of him, lol |
Whoever said that was right and Lonnie is younger. Reaves is a 10th or 11th man at best on a playoff team. |
AR was in college for 4-5 years. I’m not buying the AR LG hype. |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I think Reaves is the type of player who will look better as the team gets more reps and improves their execution. He's not a a huge run/jump athlete that is going to look great in the scrum.
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Hanging from Rafters
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| Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Did we overhype? |
Yep, for sure...I think we see encouraging potential and are hoping for progression. |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Did we overhype? |
Yep, for sure...I think we see encouraging potential and are hoping for progression. |
I thought we were going to get Kirk Heinrich this season from him.
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anth2000
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| Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Did we overhype? |
Yep, for sure...I think we see encouraging potential and are hoping for progression. |
I thought we were going to get Kirk Heinrich this season from him. |
2 games in and everyone on this board is counting the season as over.
Reaves is a damn good player, he will be fine. |
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sonic the laker
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| Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| anth2000 wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Did we overhype? |
Yep, for sure...I think we see encouraging potential and are hoping for progression. |
I thought we were going to get Kirk Heinrich this season from him. |
2 games in and everyone on this board is counting the season as over.
Reaves is a damn good player, he will be fine. |
Agreed. Also, the comparison between Reaves, and Walker, is a bad one. Walker is a score first player, whereas Reaves playstyle more closely emulates Caruso. Reaves is clearly not as athletic as Caruso, but he has more "craftiness" in his offensive game. Reaves is a player that will give you a bit of everything. Walker is out there to give you offensive punch.
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Halflife
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| Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| anth2000 wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Did we overhype? |
Yep, for sure...I think we see encouraging potential and are hoping for progression. |
I thought we were going to get Kirk Heinrich this season from him. |
2 games in and everyone on this board is counting the season as over.
Reaves is a damn good player, he will be fine. |
No one is counting season over but when he’s on the court with equally young guys he seems to me, 2 games in that he doesn’t appear to be the best at what he brought last year on a team with old guys.
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sonic the laker
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Did we overhype? |
Yep, for sure...I think we see encouraging potential and are hoping for progression. |
I thought we were going to get Kirk Heinrich this season from him. |
2 games in and everyone on this board is counting the season as over.
Reaves is a damn good player, he will be fine. |
No one is counting season over but when he’s on the court with equally young guys he seems to me, 2 games in that he doesn’t appear to be the best at what he brought last year on a team with old guys. |
I believe that's because Austin...along with mostly all our players...are still in the "figuring it out" phase. Figuring out the system Hamm is trying to instill... Figuring out each other, on-court... Figuring out their own respective roles... For some, that's going to be easier, than it is for others. Players like Damian, and Wenyen, are there for hustle, and defense. Nunn, and Walker, for offensive punch. Reaves straddles the middle, as he has more of a playmaker mentality. So, his real worth won't be seen, until this team is more solidified, in rotations and chemistry. Also, there's the ever looming prospect of a Westbrook trade, hovering over the team. So, the construction of the team may change, at some point.
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| Quote: | Jovan Buha
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Update: @ShamsCharania reports that Austin Reaves will start in place of Russell Westbrook — a change that could stick long term. |
This is your chance Austin!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| epic_ wrote: | | Quote: | Jovan Buha
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Update: @ShamsCharania reports that Austin Reaves will start in place of Russell Westbrook — a change that could stick long term. |
This is your chance Austin! |
Exactly! If he balls out, it only adds to the pressure to limit Russ' minutes and keep him out of the starting rotation. |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Suffering a sophomore slump?
He looked bad to start the season. But so as many of our other guards. |
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Barry Seal
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| miggz23 wrote: | Suffering a sophomore slump?
He looked bad to start the season. But so as many of our other guards. |
HE IS NOT GOOD |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Barry Seal wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | Suffering a sophomore slump?
He looked bad to start the season. But so as many of our other guards. |
HE IS NOT GOOD |
Yea he's lack of athleticism is starting to show... He looks worst specially if he can't make 3s. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Poor game.
Showed how bad the roster was last year that he shined.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:34 am Post subject: |
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One of the funniest things posted last night was someone said something about AR's game stats and PenG_ replied "cries in Caruso" lol
But on the Caruso comparison, there's no telling how he would have been had he just been thrown into the fire. CaruGOAT was a two-way player and he spent a significant amount of time developing with the SB Lakers. I don't remember why that didn't happen with Austin, but it's clear he would benefit from some development time. |
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Just like with THT, he'll most likely shine on another team. The last thing young players need is the hoopla and media circus that comes with being a Laker. At least guys like Vujacic, Bynum and Farmar didn't have twitter and social media to contend with when they were drafted here. They'd have a field day with good ol' Sasha.  |
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sonic the laker
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| epic_ wrote: | Poor game.
Showed how bad the roster was last year that he shined. |
Incorrect. Austin didn't have a poor game. He was just mostly invisible out there. But, I don't pin that on him. He's a good/solid support player. But, when what you're supporting is garbage...and, our half court offense is garbage...what do people expect. Reaves is at his best, when he has the ball in his hands, and is able to create off pick and roll's, or screens. He barely had the ball in his hands, against Denver. Because, the ball was heavily in the hands of LeBron, followed by AD, then Walker/Nunn/Beverly.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| TDRock wrote: | One of the funniest things posted last night was someone said something about AR's game stats and PenG_ replied "cries in Caruso" lol
But on the Caruso comparison, there's no telling how he would have been had he just been thrown into the fire. CaruGOAT was a two-way player and he spent a significant amount of time developing with the SB Lakers. I don't remember why that didn't happen with Austin, but it's clear he would benefit from some development time. |
 Thanks for the shoutout. Like this team, I need all the help I can get.
I get tired of how often social media tries to push Reaves > Caruso simply because he'll have a decent night on offense. I like Reaves, but Caruso is special. Impact metrics love him for a reason.
Like AD, people really need to watch the game to get a sense of Caruso's impact. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Austin is a glue guy. Without something to stick to, he’s just a puddle.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| TDRock wrote: | One of the funniest things posted last night was someone said something about AR's game stats and PenG_ replied "cries in Caruso" lol
But on the Caruso comparison, there's no telling how he would have been had he just been thrown into the fire. CaruGOAT was a two-way player and he spent a significant amount of time developing with the SB Lakers. I don't remember why that didn't happen with Austin, but it's clear he would benefit from some development time. |
Agreed, Austin needs some more seasoning and even though the kid is no "spring chicken," he has NBA potential and will only get better.
The main reason he didn't get assigned to SBL was because last year's Laker team was sub-par (sucked) and needed all the help and youth that it could muster up at the time.
Kudos to AR for seizing the opportunity and actually being a bright spot in an otherwise dismal season. |
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Defensively, AR didn't play particularly well last night. Teams know he's not that athletic and he needs to get stronger. 
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sonic the laker
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| Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| PenG_ wrote: | | TDRock wrote: | One of the funniest things posted last night was someone said something about AR's game stats and PenG_ replied "cries in Caruso" lol
But on the Caruso comparison, there's no telling how he would have been had he just been thrown into the fire. CaruGOAT was a two-way player and he spent a significant amount of time developing with the SB Lakers. I don't remember why that didn't happen with Austin, but it's clear he would benefit from some development time. |
Thanks for the shoutout. Like this team, I need all the help I can get.
I get tired of how often social media tries to push Reaves > Caruso simply because he'll have a decent night on offense. I like Reaves, but Caruso is special. Impact metrics love him for a reason.
Like AD, people really need to watch the game to get a sense of Caruso's impact. |
I don't believe it's a "one guy is more special, over the other" situation. Both players fill a similar role, they just have different weakness/strengths. Caruso is more athletic/explosive, and clearly more experienced. Austin is still trying to find his groove, in an ever changing landscape, while being being ahead of the game offensively compared to Caruso (respective to time in the league).
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