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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you IG _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Jent (Pierce to McMillan) and Ott (Atkinson to Nash) are guys who were kept through head coaching changes. That speaks to bringing value seen by the organization. Both worked with Ham under Budz in Atlanta. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Outspoken wrote: | I don't know anything about Jent, but I'm gonna look him up. |
More I read the more I like. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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easybreeze Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | easybreeze wrote: | Seems like the FO is in a money saving mode, with these hires. |
How so has that been reported? |
I'm reporting it. |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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easybreeze wrote: | Car54 wrote: | easybreeze wrote: | Seems like the FO is in a money saving mode, with these hires. |
How so has that been reported? |
I'm reporting it. |
Ok Pincus lol _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
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easybreeze Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | easybreeze wrote: | Car54 wrote: | easybreeze wrote: | Seems like the FO is in a money saving mode, with these hires. |
How so has that been reported? |
I'm reporting it. |
Ok Pincus lol |
lol...
Has anyone reported the salary of the new coach? I haven't been able to find anything on the net. |
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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FWIW, McMenamin still listed Crawford as returning (no mention of Dallas) in his piece on Jent today and Quinton still lists himself presently as an Assistant Coach for the Lakers on his Linked-In. Seems like the dust hasn’t settled on his move to Texas. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:08 am Post subject: |
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ocho wrote: | Outspoken wrote: | I don't know anything about Jent, but I'm gonna look him up. |
More I read the more I like. |
This is an encouraging comment. I'm really glad Darvin has all the reigns to select his staff. |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:58 am Post subject: |
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I dont know about Jent but a lot of people cried about the previous coaching staff and how the FO stifled that. I assume whining about this is no longer a thing. |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | I dont know about Jent but a lot of people cried about the previous coaching staff and how the FO stifled that. I assume whining about this is no longer a thing. |
I liked the previous staff (2020 championship staff to be clear) _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like we are hiring a coaching staff suited to a rebuild (or re-tool) more than a title run. That’s probably smart so long as we start to shift our roster building strategy. It’s essentially building on a Davis timeline instead of a LeBron one. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Laker's Fan wrote: | It looks like we are hiring a coaching staff suited to a rebuild (or re-tool) more than a title run. That’s probably smart so long as we start to shift our roster building strategy. It’s essentially building on a Davis timeline instead of a LeBron one. |
To me it seems we’re building a staff that’s win now and also developing talent. I believe Darvin Resume as a player and coach is better than Udokas was before becoming a head coach. I like what I’m hearing about Jent and I love that we kept Phil. I like what Darvin has been saying about how he’s gonna use Russ. I know Russ isn’t gonna turn into Jru but his athleticism coupled with effort is gonna pay dividends. I think the defense will improve a lot but Rob has to do his part of providing the players for Dham. _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | Laker's Fan wrote: | It looks like we are hiring a coaching staff suited to a rebuild (or re-tool) more than a title run. That’s probably smart so long as we start to shift our roster building strategy. It’s essentially building on a Davis timeline instead of a LeBron one. |
To me it seems we’re building a staff that’s win now and also developing talent. I believe Darvin Resume as a player and coach is better than Udokas was before becoming a head coach. I like what I’m hearing about Jent and I love that we kept Phil. I like what Darvin has been saying about how he’s gonna use Russ. I know Russ isn’t gonna turn into Jru but his athleticism coupled with effort is gonna pay dividends. I think the defense will improve a lot but Rob has to do his part of providing the players for Dham. |
It's pretty hard to pull off both win now and build for the future. Udoka had a young and talented roster with years playing together. We're going into year three of heavy roster turnover with limited resources. Bron is a part time player at this stage, Russ will be a daily challenge, and Davis has to prove he can stay healthy. Most of the rest of the roster will be developmental players or bargain vets new to the team.
In real terms, you aren't going to compete with teams who have spent years carefully building their structure and are more talented. If it's a title we want, looking at the Davis timeline, which is more like a three year runway than the Lebron timeline, makes the most sense. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Laker's Fan wrote: | Car54 wrote: | Laker's Fan wrote: | It looks like we are hiring a coaching staff suited to a rebuild (or re-tool) more than a title run. That’s probably smart so long as we start to shift our roster building strategy. It’s essentially building on a Davis timeline instead of a LeBron one. |
To me it seems we’re building a staff that’s win now and also developing talent. I believe Darvin Resume as a player and coach is better than Udokas was before becoming a head coach. I like what I’m hearing about Jent and I love that we kept Phil. I like what Darvin has been saying about how he’s gonna use Russ. I know Russ isn’t gonna turn into Jru but his athleticism coupled with effort is gonna pay dividends. I think the defense will improve a lot but Rob has to do his part of providing the players for Dham. |
It's pretty hard to pull off both win now and build for the future. Udoka had a young and talented roster with years playing together. We're going into year three of heavy roster turnover with limited resources. Bron is a part time player at this stage, Russ will be a daily challenge, and Davis has to prove he can stay healthy. Most of the rest of the roster will be developmental players or bargain vets new to the team.
In real terms, you aren't going to compete with teams who have spent years carefully building their structure and are more talented. If it's a title we want, looking at the Davis timeline, which is more like a three year runway than the Lebron timeline, makes the most sense. |
We just watched the spurs go 20 years as a playoff team what do you mean it can’t be done? You can argue about the talent level but the Lakers have been able to get good pieces late in the draft. _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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Really seems like we can use another offensive coordinator on the staff, if Stotts doesn’t get the Utah HC job then maybe Ham can work his magic and bring him over, the same alludes to Mike D’Antoni |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Really seems like we can use another offensive coordinator on the staff, if Stotts doesn’t get the Utah HC job then maybe Ham can work his magic and bring him over, the same alludes to Mike D’Antoni |
I doubt Stotts wants to be an assistant. I’m not sure we really need the coach to be offensive minded. I could be wrong though. _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
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Laker's Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | Laker's Fan wrote: | It's pretty hard to pull off both win now and build for the future. Udoka had a young and talented roster with years playing together. We're going into year three of heavy roster turnover with limited resources. Bron is a part time player at this stage, Russ will be a daily challenge, and Davis has to prove he can stay healthy. Most of the rest of the roster will be developmental players or bargain vets new to the team.
In real terms, you aren't going to compete with teams who have spent years carefully building their structure and are more talented. If it's a title we want, looking at the Davis timeline, which is more like a three year runway than the Lebron timeline, makes the most sense. |
We just watched the spurs go 20 years as a playoff team what do you mean it can’t be done? You can argue about the talent level but the Lakers have been able to get good pieces late in the draft. |
That’s fair. But the Spurs were an elite organization run by Buford, Pop and Duncan in their respective roles. Current Laker ownership has been in power for ten seasons during which we’ve missed the playoffs seven times. In that time our top basketball executive has been one of Jim Buss, Magic Johnson or Rob Pelinka. Rob is on the clock and the built in successor is Kurt Rambis. We’ve had Mike Brown, Mike D’Antoni, Byron Scott, Luke Walton and Frank Vogel as head coach, the latter who was thrown under the “Buss” so badly, possible successors pulled their names out of the running.
All of that to say we don’t have the leadership or resources to focus on more than one objective at a time. We’re playing from behind. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Really seems like we can use another offensive coordinator on the staff, if Stotts doesn’t get the Utah HC job then maybe Ham can work his magic and bring him over, the same alludes to Mike D’Antoni |
I doubt Stotts wants to be an assistant. I’m not sure we really need the coach to be offensive minded. I could be wrong though. |
Doesn’t seem like Ham wants an oc. Watching the press conference it seemed like this is his team with his philosophies. Maybe they bring in someone with an offensive identity, but i don’t see us getting Stotts, Dantoni, or anyone like that. |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Lakerz113 wrote: | Car54 wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Really seems like we can use another offensive coordinator on the staff, if Stotts doesn’t get the Utah HC job then maybe Ham can work his magic and bring him over, the same alludes to Mike D’Antoni |
I doubt Stotts wants to be an assistant. I’m not sure we really need the coach to be offensive minded. I could be wrong though. |
Doesn’t seem like Ham wants an oc. Watching the press conference it seemed like this is his team with his philosophies. Maybe they bring in someone with an offensive identity, but i don’t see us getting Stotts, Dantoni, or anyone like that. |
Agreed in the presser he talked about everyone being 360. Coaching all aspects of basketball not just one end of the court. _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
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lakersfan8 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 6:33 am Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | Laker's Fan wrote: | Car54 wrote: | Laker's Fan wrote: | It looks like we are hiring a coaching staff suited to a rebuild (or re-tool) more than a title run. That’s probably smart so long as we start to shift our roster building strategy. It’s essentially building on a Davis timeline instead of a LeBron one. |
To me it seems we’re building a staff that’s win now and also developing talent. I believe Darvin Resume as a player and coach is better than Udokas was before becoming a head coach. I like what I’m hearing about Jent and I love that we kept Phil. I like what Darvin has been saying about how he’s gonna use Russ. I know Russ isn’t gonna turn into Jru but his athleticism coupled with effort is gonna pay dividends. I think the defense will improve a lot but Rob has to do his part of providing the players for Dham. |
It's pretty hard to pull off both win now and build for the future. Udoka had a young and talented roster with years playing together. We're going into year three of heavy roster turnover with limited resources. Bron is a part time player at this stage, Russ will be a daily challenge, and Davis has to prove he can stay healthy. Most of the rest of the roster will be developmental players or bargain vets new to the team.
In real terms, you aren't going to compete with teams who have spent years carefully building their structure and are more talented. If it's a title we want, looking at the Davis timeline, which is more like a three year runway than the Lebron timeline, makes the most sense. |
We just watched the spurs go 20 years as a playoff team what do you mean it can’t be done? You can argue about the talent level but the Lakers have been able to get good pieces late in the draft. |
Spurs never had the roster turnover like we did. |
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Jordan Ott rumored to be joining. I believe he is the Nets OC _________________ Naz Reid or Brooks Lopez are a must in the 2023 offseason! |
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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easybreeze wrote: | Car54 wrote: | easybreeze wrote: | Seems like the FO is in a money saving mode, with these hires. |
How so has that been reported? |
I'm reporting it. |
That is a opinion and a bad one |
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