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Lakers#1Team Retired Number
Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 36403 Location: Nomad
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Watched the 4th and OT. Pretty ugly but the Lakers managed to get the win. Way to go AD and Melo. Russ got a triple double. Hope we get healthy soon and can get on a roll. |
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eddiejonze Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Roger O. Thornhill wrote: | Lakers lose tonight without that crazy 3 by Monk to end the 3rd quarter. I'll take it! |
Hornets lose by five at least if the refs didn't give Lamelo five free points. _________________ Creatures crawl in search of blood, To terrorize y'alls neighborhood. |
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cirehawk Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Reaves really does understand fundamental concepts of switching defense. He plays good defense on his man and then seamlessly switches off when he needs to. I really like his game. |
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Hard_Butter Franchise Player
Joined: 02 Jan 2012 Posts: 12242 Location: The Two One Three
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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This game should've been over 10 minutes ago.
Vogel is an idiot for not coaching this team to beat this soft weak ass zone by CHA....
Ejecting Rondo was egregious and costly....
NBA refs are a bunch of cheaters.
WB continues to be a low iq baller.
AD needs to dominate from beginning to end. Too much floating around.
Melo saves Vogel's job for a minute cause his seat is white hot. _________________ The butter's hard and the eggs are chillin' in the dark.
Kiss my Converse. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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mad55557777 wrote: | Davis is 11/15 inside the paint, and 2/10 outside it, so of course Vogel had to draw up plays for him outside the paint |
If he had the guts to tell both AD and Westbrook that they aren't 3 point shooters so he wants 95% of their offense to come from inside the paint or free throw line, they and we'd be much more efficient. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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Theseus Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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eddiejonze wrote: | Roger O. Thornhill wrote: | Lakers lose tonight without that crazy 3 by Monk to end the 3rd quarter. I'll take it! |
Hornets lose by five at least if the refs didn't give Lamelo five free points. |
Not to mention kick out the catalyst for our run in the third |
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leking006 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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cirehawk wrote: | Reaves really does understand fundamental concepts of switching defense. He plays good defense on his man and then seamlessly switches off when he needs to. I really like his game. |
It's kinda crazy that Vogel benched him most of the OT and risk playing bad defenders. Good thing he bring him in with Bradley in the last minute. |
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Mamba Mentality Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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The stat padding is so obvious now with Russ. Sags off his man for rebounding position and that’s how the defense breaks down _________________ “You can't be held captive by the fear of failure or the fear of what people may say.” - Kobe Bryant |
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Theseus Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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cirehawk wrote: | Reaves really does understand fundamental concepts of switching defense. He plays good defense on his man and then seamlessly switches off when he needs to. I really like his game. |
His game is easy to enjoy. It seems like he is a good at a lot of things. His turnaround jumper deep into the clock out of a timeout late in the 4th was massive.
I like how Vogel saved him until the last minute of OT so he didn't pick up his 6th foul and to put the pressure on Ball |
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GOODRICH25 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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mad55557777 wrote: | Davis is 11/15 inside the paint, and 2/10 outside it, so of course Vogel had to draw up plays for him outside the paint |
You think Vogel draws that? Westbrook asks him where he wants the ball, AD sets, WB passes, makes a cut and AD goes to work. I don't mind AD getting the ball away from the rim but when he's aggressive and attacks the defender. When he waits 10 seconds just to shoot over him then no, never do that pls _________________ 48 49 50 52 53 54 72 80 82
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eddiejonze Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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I'm really starting to think that Danny Green was the catalyst in our Banner year. _________________ Creatures crawl in search of blood, To terrorize y'alls neighborhood. |
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LakerMindLA Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Mamba Mentality wrote: | The stat padding is so obvious now with Russ. Sags off his man for rebounding position and that’s how the defense breaks down |
Ya, just go watch the play were Reaves rotates twice and stops Hayward because Russ plays ZERO D and only focus on the rebound.
WB is not a good basketball player. |
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miggz23 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Fix was in during the 4th... The refs were trying so hard to keep that spread that they almost lost that game for the Lakers. |
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panamaniac Franchise Player
Joined: 28 May 2011 Posts: 11261 Location: PTY
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Mamba Mentality wrote: | The stat padding is so obvious now with Russ. Sags off his man for rebounding position and that’s how the defense breaks down |
He's obviously a stat hunter and his decision making kill us late in games (including tonight). |
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vcdplaya3002 Starting Rotation
Joined: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 272
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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Mamba Mentality wrote: | The stat padding is so obvious now with Russ. Sags off his man for rebounding position and that’s how the defense breaks down |
Vogel must be pulling his hair out watching all the defensive breakdowns Russ makes every single game. They are egregious and detrimental to any success. The team can not hold any leads because Russ is constantly refusing to guard his man or getting beaten immediately over and over. This team is currently playing at an 8th or 9th seed level unless serious upgrades are made there isn’t much room for optimism. |
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slavavov Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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On Spectrum SportsNet they're talking about how crappy AD felt tonight and how he puked after the 3rd quarter.
He still had 32 points, 12 rebounds, 3 steals, 5 blocks and a couple of clutch FTs, despite nausea and a sprained thumb.
Tell me again how he is soft and lacks desire? |
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leking006 Star Player
Joined: 12 Oct 2018 Posts: 6457
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Theseus wrote: | cirehawk wrote: | Reaves really does understand fundamental concepts of switching defense. He plays good defense on his man and then seamlessly switches off when he needs to. I really like his game. |
His game is easy to enjoy. It seems like he is a good at a lot of things. His turnaround jumper deep into the clock out of a timeout late in the 4th was massive.
I like how Vogel saved him until the last minute of OT so he didn't pick up his 6th foul and to put the pressure on Ball |
If actually given the green light to facilitate, I think he can create his own shot and dished to others just like what he is doing in college. We have not seen what he can already do. As of now he is just doing what Vogel ask him, whick is to defend and stretch the floor. |
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phantasyman Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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phantasyman wrote: | phantasyman wrote: | phantasyman wrote: | Hornets will win by 15 tonight |
I said 15 |
I told ya Lakers are just playing with this team 😂 |
I am beyond amazed at my predictions. |
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slavavov Star Player
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 8451 Location: Santa Monica
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Mamba Mentality wrote: | The stat padding is so obvious now with Russ. Sags off his man for rebounding position and that’s how the defense breaks down |
He has to stop doing that. We have great rebounders in AD, Dwight and LeBron. Russ will get enough rebounds just playing fundamental D. |
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leking006 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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vcdplaya3002 wrote: | Mamba Mentality wrote: | The stat padding is so obvious now with Russ. Sags off his man for rebounding position and that’s how the defense breaks down |
Vogel must be pulling his hair out watching all the defensive breakdowns Russ makes every single game. They are egregious and detrimental to any success. The team can not hold any leads because Russ is constantly refusing to guard his man or getting beaten immediately over and over. This team is currently playing at an 8th or 9th seed level unless serious upgrades are made there isn’t much room for optimism. |
Looks like it's already his instinct, leaving his man and wait for the rebound. Someone need to point it out that he should not need to do that. |
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Japago Star Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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eddiejonze wrote: | Roger O. Thornhill wrote: | Lakers lose tonight without that crazy 3 by Monk to end the 3rd quarter. I'll take it! |
Hornets lose by five at least if the refs didn't give Lamelo five free points. |
I couldn't believe what I was watching. That should've been a win in regulation.
Between that, giving Rondo that flagrant 2, and taking away those free throws after the fact during the Rockets game, the refs have been on something this season. |
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phantasyman Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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My confidence has been restored. I have no doubt the Lakers will make the playoffs |
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panamaniac Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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slavavov wrote: | On Spectrum SportsNet they're talking about how crappy AD felt tonight and how he puked after the 3rd quarter.
He still had 32 points, 12 rebounds, 3 steals, 5 blocks and a couple of clutch FTs, despite nausea and a sprained thumb.
Tell me again how he is soft and lacks desire? |
Kudos to AD. |
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Treble Clef Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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Japago wrote: | eddiejonze wrote: | Roger O. Thornhill wrote: | Lakers lose tonight without that crazy 3 by Monk to end the 3rd quarter. I'll take it! |
Hornets lose by five at least if the refs didn't give Lamelo five free points. |
I couldn't believe what I was watching. That should've been a win in regulation.
Between that, giving Rondo that flagrant 2, and taking away those free throws after the fact during the Rockets game, the refs have been on something this season. |
They’re bad. That sequence with LaMelo was so weird and they were giving the Lakers all kinds of free points today too. 5 technicals on Charlotte. Maybe they’re working on commission. |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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GOODRICH25 wrote: | mad55557777 wrote: | Davis is 11/15 inside the paint, and 2/10 outside it, so of course Vogel had to draw up plays for him outside the paint |
You think Vogel draws that? Westbrook asks him where he wants the ball, AD sets, WB passes, makes a cut and AD goes to work. I don't mind AD getting the ball away from the rim but when he's aggressive and attacks the defender. When he waits 10 seconds just to shoot over him then no, never do that pls |
So why bother call a TO |
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