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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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32 wrote: | epic_ wrote: | Hopefully the Lakers buy a 2nd rounder and find another gem to make up for the #22. |
Or get 39 from the kings. |
That would be fine too _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Barry Seal wrote: | 32 wrote: | Buddy is an elite shooter like we have never seen in a Laker uniform. Yes, his defense is not great but his offense will make up for it. |
What? lol Glenn Rice? Buddy is a glorified George Mccloud. This would be a horrible trade and fleece by the Kings. |
He's literally one of the best volume 3-point shooters in the entire league. Of course he has deficiencies, and I'm not trying to say that he doesn't. But he can shoot off the dribble, can shoot wide open at a standstill, and, very importantly, he can get himself open coming off screens as a motion shooter and shoot it at a high percentage. He can also pass a little bit. I think you'd need a solid defensive guard next to him, but 3-point shooting is one of the most important skills in the sport, and we don't have nearly enough of it. |
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LakersKobeBrynt8 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Just super underwhelmed by Pelinkaโs stewardship thus far. None of the trades heโs executed in his 4 years at the helm have shown any sort of creativity. It always just defaults to, oh throwing in our 1st round pick will get the deal done?
Svi for Bullock (throws in the 2nd rounder) - Svi alone shouldโve been enough.
Wagner, Bonga, Jones to clear cap for Kawhi (throws in 2nd rounder) - Wagner alone shouldโve been enough incentive.
And then he wonders why itโs so hard to buy into the draft. |
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Nnamdi21 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Lakerz113 wrote: | Nnamdi21 wrote: | trading KCP for Hield seems dumb. and we add the pick?? and Hield will probably get the Ben Mclemore treatment from Vogel |
Hield is a bad defender, BMac is a terrible one. I think buddy does a more. He can shoot that three on or off the dribble, and actually has decent playmaking skills distributing the basketball. |
I agree Hield is better than BMac but losing KCP will hurt. He's our fast break guard, pest of a defender, cutter and decent 3pt shooter. I really think Kuz for Hield makes more sense. Kuz can eventually be like Clarkson in a open offense and Hield wont get any better going forward. |
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Laker's Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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JPaulK0n wrote: | Yikes, if Pelinka really gets swindled by the Kings by giving up pick 22 and almost giving up whatever Lakers assets that are left. |
Can't speak specifically to the value proposition until we know what is actually on the table, but Pelinka has proven to be a big picture thinker. He may give value if he thinks he has a strategic fit. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night. |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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Nnamdi21 wrote: | Lakerz113 wrote: | Nnamdi21 wrote: | trading KCP for Hield seems dumb. and we add the pick?? and Hield will probably get the Ben Mclemore treatment from Vogel |
Hield is a bad defender, BMac is a terrible one. I think buddy does a more. He can shoot that three on or off the dribble, and actually has decent playmaking skills distributing the basketball. |
I agree Hield is better than BMac but losing KCP will hurt. He's our fast break guard, pest of a defender, cutter and decent 3pt shooter. I really think Kuz for Hield makes more sense. Kuz can eventually be like Clarkson in a open offense and Hield wont get any better going forward. |
Of course he does, and I'm quite certain that the Lakers view KCP as more valuable than Kuzma. He serves a far more important utility for us. In theory, Kuz's best ability is his ability to get buckets, and that's marginalized on our team because he simply doesn't have the rock enough. Let him go get buckets on a bad team. |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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LakersKobeBrynt8 wrote: | Just super underwhelmed by Pelinkaโs stewardship thus far. None of the trades heโs executed in his 4 years at the helm have shown any sort of creativity. It always just defaults to, oh throwing in our 1st round pick will get the deal done?
Svi for Bullock (throws in the 2nd rounder) - Svi alone shouldโve been enough.
Wagner, Bonga, Jones to clear cap for Kawhi (throws in 2nd rounder) - Wagner alone shouldโve been enough incentive.
And then he wonders why itโs so hard to buy into the draft. |
Championship GM. |
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LGFan Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/itsmead31/status/1420578596553334787?s=21
Itโs ๐๐๐๐๐๐ time. |
so its basically AD/Bron/Buddy/Russ
i am fine as long as the last guy is Wes/Snell/Ariza |
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levon Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/itsmead31/status/1420578596553334787?s=21
Itโs ๐๐๐๐๐๐ time. |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/itsmead31/status/1420578596553334787?s=21
Itโs ๐๐๐๐๐๐ time. |
Is that even possible if we're sending out Trez, the pick, and 1 of KUZ for Buddy?
What are we trading to the the Wizards? KCP/THT and Schroeder at 20 million a year? lmao
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LakerMindLA Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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KCP > Kuzma |
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RashardA Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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If Trez opts out the Lakers are going to trade their two best perimeter wing defenders, one of their best rebounders and a first round pick for a shooter.
Okay _________________ Everyting negative - pressure, challenges - is all an opportunity for me to rise.
-Kobe Bryant |
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Barry Seal Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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LakersKobeBrynt8 wrote: | Just super underwhelmed by Pelinkaโs stewardship thus far. None of the trades heโs executed in his 4 years at the helm have shown any sort of creativity. It always just defaults to, oh throwing in our 1st round pick will get the deal done?
Svi for Bullock (throws in the 2nd rounder) - Svi alone shouldโve been enough.
Wagner, Bonga, Jones to clear cap for Kawhi (throws in 2nd rounder) - Wagner alone shouldโve been enough incentive.
And then he wonders why itโs so hard to buy into the draft. |
I agree. Seems to have 0 foresight. No clue how good of a talent evaluator he is because he trades every pick from now to eternity. |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/itsmead31/status/1420578596553334787?s=21
Itโs ๐๐๐๐๐๐ time. |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/itsmead31/status/1420578596553334787?s=21
Itโs ๐๐๐๐๐๐ time. |
Is that even possible if we're sending out Trez, the pick, and 1 of KUZ for Buddy?
What are we trading to the the Wizards? KCP/THT and Schroeder at 20 million a year? lmao |
Yes itโs only fair that Schroder gets $30Mโฆfrom the Wizards |
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LakersKobeBrynt8 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | LakersKobeBrynt8 wrote: | Just super underwhelmed by Pelinkaโs stewardship thus far. None of the trades heโs executed in his 4 years at the helm have shown any sort of creativity. It always just defaults to, oh throwing in our 1st round pick will get the deal done?
Svi for Bullock (throws in the 2nd rounder) - Svi alone shouldโve been enough.
Wagner, Bonga, Jones to clear cap for Kawhi (throws in 2nd rounder) - Wagner alone shouldโve been enough incentive.
And then he wonders why itโs so hard to buy into the draft. |
Championship GM. |
That Zubac for Muscala though, AFTER they gave Thomas Bryant up for nothing to give Zubac the roster spot. All because they stubbornly decided playmakers like Lance and Beasley were the way to go. |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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I would have been ok with.
Delon + Hield for #22, kcp, Trez, alfonzo.
Buy a 2nd rounder. _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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RashardA wrote: | If Trez opts out the Lakers are going to trade their two best perimeter wing defenders, one of their best rebounders and a first round pick for a shooter.
Okay |
If it's KCP, Caruso easily takes his minutes. Kuzma doesn't close games anyway. And lol at trying to frame Trez and his DNPs throughout the playoffs as a massive loss on the boards. |
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anth2000 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Lolโฆstopโฆno way we get Westbrook and Hield. Smoking crack, folks. |
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Harlemlakerfan Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Barry Seal wrote: | 32 wrote: | Buddy is an elite shooter like we have never seen in a Laker uniform. Yes, his defense is not great but his offense will make up for it. |
What? lol Glenn Rice? Buddy is a glorified George Mccloud. This would be a horrible trade and fleece by the Kings. |
Oh my goodness....... |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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LakersKobeBrynt8 wrote: | Halflife wrote: | LakersKobeBrynt8 wrote: | Just super underwhelmed by Pelinkaโs stewardship thus far. None of the trades heโs executed in his 4 years at the helm have shown any sort of creativity. It always just defaults to, oh throwing in our 1st round pick will get the deal done?
Svi for Bullock (throws in the 2nd rounder) - Svi alone shouldโve been enough.
Wagner, Bonga, Jones to clear cap for Kawhi (throws in 2nd rounder) - Wagner alone shouldโve been enough incentive.
And then he wonders why itโs so hard to buy into the draft. |
Championship GM. |
That Zubac for Muscala though, AFTER they gave Thomas Bryant up for nothing to give Zubac the roster spot. All because they stubbornly decided playmakers like Lance and Beasley were the way to go. |
He won a championship in real life. You arm chair from the internet in way that you actually believe you know more than him which makes it all the more funny. |
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LoPro4u2c Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Question: do you guys think Wizards are dumb enough to do a Beal for Porzingis trade? Their contracts kind of match up. |
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epic_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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levon wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | https://twitter.com/itsmead31/status/1420578596553334787?s=21
Itโs ๐๐๐๐๐๐ time. |
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๐๐๐๐๐๐ _________________ ๐๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ #18!!! |
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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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LoPro4u2c wrote: | Question: do you guys think Wizards are dumb enough to do a Beal for Porzingis trade? Their contracts kind of match up. |
Absolutely not. |
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