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SunshineMan89
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| Mamba3301 wrote: | | Before this topic gets locked...I just want to say that since when has Derek Fisher not been selfish? Always has been, always will be. He, like Kobe, thinks he should be taking big shots because he believes he can make them. The difference is, Kobe is a legend. Fisher is a scrub. |
Are you kidding?
I get the criticism of Fisher being unathletic, a poor defender, etc.
But selfish is a new one. |
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3peat_pete
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| time to make Dwight Howard see how championship b-ball is played. |
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mandywwm
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| link wrote: | | mandywwm wrote: | bad game by KOBE, but he just couldn't make any 3 tonight, that's bad.
THOSE KOBE CHOKE IN CLUTCH IS CRAZY!! SEE HOW THEY DEFEND HIM!! THEY FOUL AND MAKE PHYSICAL CONTACT!!! |
Lakers have to find a way to get easier shots for Kobe. Kobe going 1-on-1 isn't working as reliably as it used to in crunchtime anymore. |
need more catch and shoot, but i still have faith in his fadeaway!!! |
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LuciusAllen
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| That was a spectacular victory, all things considered. |
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drzucchini
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Mamba3301 wrote: | | Before this topic gets locked...I just want to say that since when has Derek Fisher not been selfish? Always has been, always will be. He, like Kobe, thinks he should be taking big shots because he believes he can make them. The difference is, Kobe is a legend. Fisher is a scrub. |
We need to define selfishness first. Selfishness means that he's putting his own success above that of the team. There are tons of things to criticize him for, but after a decade or so, it's clear that the guy is all about winning. Criticize him for flawed judgment, if you want, but that doesn't necessarily amount to selfishness. |
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Runway8
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| drzucchini wrote: | | It was the right play. He was in a similar situation in Game 3 against the Celtics last year in the Finals, only he converted the bucket then. |
I've pointed out that shot from game 3 before and described it as a scary thing. He misses that shot, Lakers don't even come home for game 6. I'm still very worried that we are so dependent on this guy. I think our dependency on him is very similar to our dependency on Horry in that we believe they were clutch. Horry missed everything in '03, and I hope Fish doesn't do the same. |
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lakergal16
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Drew with team high 37 minutes...big man's healthy  |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers have 11 home games and 4 road games left if I read the standings right.
Now let's beat Orlando!!  |
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| mandywwm wrote: | | link wrote: | | mandywwm wrote: | bad game by KOBE, but he just couldn't make any 3 tonight, that's bad.
THOSE KOBE CHOKE IN CLUTCH IS CRAZY!! SEE HOW THEY DEFEND HIM!! THEY FOUL AND MAKE PHYSICAL CONTACT!!! |
Lakers have to find a way to get easier shots for Kobe. Kobe going 1-on-1 isn't working as reliably as it used to in crunchtime anymore. |
need more catch and shoot, but i still have faith in his fadeaway!!! |
No doubt. Kobe's got the best mid-jumper and fadeaway in the league. Just wished Phil would come up with something so Kobe wouldn't have to work so hard or shoot over two defenders in crunchtime everytime for us to pull out wins. Especially when Kobe's got long-armed orangutans like Marion or Sefolosha on him. |
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mhan00
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Runway8 wrote: | | drzucchini wrote: | | It was the right play. He was in a similar situation in Game 3 against the Celtics last year in the Finals, only he converted the bucket then. |
I've pointed out that shot from game 3 before and described it as a scary thing. He misses that shot, Lakers don't even come home for game 6. I'm still very worried that we are so dependent on this guy. I think our dependency on him is very similar to our dependency on Horry in that we believe they were clutch. Horry missed everything in '03, and I hope Fish doesn't do the same. |
Errr, both players have proved beyond the shadow of any possible doubt that they're clutch. Horry missed that shot because he had to play wayy too many regular season minutes which killed his legs for the playoffs. He got regular season rest and closed for.the spurs and delivered in the clutch for their next two.rings. |
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Bynum4MVP
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | Lakers have 11 home games and 4 road games left if I read the standings right.
Now let's beat Orlando!! |
On the flipside, the Celtics have more road games than home games left...and most of those games are against teams trying to make the Playoffs. 
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| lakergal16 wrote: | | Drew with team high 37 minutes...big man's healthy |
Great to see this!! Let's see... 22 points on only 12 shots, 15 rebounds, solid defense, clutch plays at the end, I don't think this guy is just any ordinary 7 footer!!
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dood23
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| a good game from blake and a great game from beastnum. lets hope this is a sign of things to come |
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grimmz4764
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| drzucchini wrote: | | It was the right play. He was in a similar situation in Game 3 against the Celtics last year in the Finals, only he converted the bucket then. |
Woah |
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Lowest Merion
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Lowest Merion wrote: | | No one is beating this team when Drew is having a big game. Not happening. |
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Gandalf
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Props to Mr. Black. He was by far our best PG today. |
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Bynum4MVP
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Lowest Merion wrote: | | Lowest Merion wrote: | | No one is beating this team when Drew is having a big game. Not happening. |
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True that.
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chickensandwich
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Gandalf wrote: | | Props to Mr. Black. He was by far our best PG today. |
hell, he was probably our best guard today. his two 3's while kobe was out really shifted the momentum our way and the majority of his passes were on point. |
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Laker_Behemoth
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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Andrew Bynum.
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker_Behemoth wrote: | | Andrew Bynum. |
Nuff said. |
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mirak
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| SunshineMan89 wrote: | | Mamba3301 wrote: | | Before this topic gets locked...I just want to say that since when has Derek Fisher not been selfish? Always has been, always will be. He, like Kobe, thinks he should be taking big shots because he believes he can make them. The difference is, Kobe is a legend. Fisher is a scrub. |
Are you kidding?
I get the criticism of Fisher being unathletic, a poor defender, etc.
But selfish is a new one. |
Well I believe it's meant that Fish looks for his shot first. You do see that quite a bit. Doesn't mean he's fixated on his stats, or doesn't care about winning. Fish will do whatever it takes to win, he's a terrific teammate by all accounts. But he does often look for his shot first. That may be by design (PJ may tell him to do so), don't really know. |
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JTS1
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| Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | Laker_Behemoth wrote: | | Andrew Bynum! |
Nuff said. |
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rak617
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| Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| JTS1 wrote: | | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | Laker_Behemoth wrote: | | Andrew Bynum! |
Nuff said. |
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