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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: In Vegas: Day Nine Wrap |
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Hey all,
I’ll say this up front – I’m exhausted! I was supposed to have a partner helping with coverage but I ended up going solo. So here it is – my breakdown of all seven games in Las Vegas on Saturday.
In Vegas: Day Nine Wrap
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9532
Some highlights include Jerryd Bayless scoring 36 – 17 in the fourth – and flat out DOMINATING – this kid is really good.
Also – Joey Dorsey got ejected – from a game he wasn’t EVEN IN.
Some fun finishes – including LeBron James watching courtside as his Cavaliers lose to the Hornets at the buzzer on a put back by Larry Owens!
Larry who? Sorry LBJ.
I’m sorry to say the Laker game was perhaps the dullest of the bunch – LA just got beat outright by the Nuggets and Coby Karl had a tough shooting night.
Thanks
Eric _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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what did Dorsey do? _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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Dorsey has been good too. Had 22 and 14 in 1 game and 8 and 13 in another shooting about 80% from the floor. |
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yes Jerryd Bayless is a very good, very exciting player. He carried his high school team (St. Mary's) to the 5A State Championship game (AZ) and when I say carried, yeah, he was the only guy with any talent on that team. They couldn't get past Mountain View (my daughter's school), though, who won their 3rd championship in a row. Threepeat!
He's a very fun player to watch, very athletic. He will do very well in Portland. He'll fit right in with their attitude and system. He always plays with a bit of a chip on his shoulder. Reminds me of a cross between Gilbert Arenas (shooting ability) and Kobe (athleticism). Too bad he's kinda small. It'll be interesting to see how he does vs NBA level competition. When I think of watching Jerryd play, the word 'Electric' is what comes to mind. _________________ “I’m just a basketball player, you know? Just put me where you need me.” -Lamar Odom
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:03 am Post subject: |
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Bayless was very impressive on the summer league. |
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Bayless sounds like on heck of a competitor. Damn Portland is stacking them up aren't they? _________________ Stop crying and start doing.
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Love has also been outstanding and will get MVP consideration, as well. |
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: |
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If by consideration - you mean second place votes - sure _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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thx Eric. |
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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Explain to me again how the Blazers managed to get their hands on Bayless?! ![](images/smiles/icon_reddead.gif) _________________ “This goes far beyond paychecks” |
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DoubleClutch wrote: | Explain to me again how the Blazers managed to get their hands on Bayless?! ![](images/smiles/icon_reddead.gif) |
Kevin Pritchard good sir. Serious if I was GM of any other team and Pritchard was on the other line... I'd hang up right away. |
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I am kind of surprised by the play of Kevin Love. He is playing better than expected. The speed of the game is going to be a huge adjustment for him. I think his major advantage is his basketball IQ. _________________ let there be light,
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Emplay, who do you think will be getting a camp invite? _________________
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I think in the end, Portland will have to choose between Bayless and Roy if they want to maximize the team's potential. I'd stick with Roy and trade Bayless for a pure PG (go for Deron Williams?). _________________ I get up for everybody. I played my son today in the backyard and I didn't let him score." - Ron Artest |
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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roy and bayless will have no problem playing together
I see just karl and crawford with a shot - camp? who knows they could invite any of these guys but none with real shot to make the roster _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Any chance the Lakers offer Bobby Brown a contract? |
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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doubtful but he'd be a good invite _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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Buddha wrote: | I think in the end, Portland will have to choose between Bayless and Roy if they want to maximize the team's potential. I'd stick with Roy and trade Bayless for a pure PG (go for Deron Williams?). | Bayless is more of a shooting guard than a point guard. (Think Gilbert Arenas) although he is undersized for a shooting guard. _________________ “I’m just a basketball player, you know? Just put me where you need me.” -Lamar Odom
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If it were just Bayless and Roy, then I wouldn't see a problem. Factor in trying to involve guys like Oden, Aldridge and Webster, I don't see two dominant perimeter scorers as the best thing. They'd be better suited with playmaker who can get easy buckets for Oden and Aldridge. _________________ I get up for everybody. I played my son today in the backyard and I didn't let him score." - Ron Artest |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:08 am Post subject: |
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if you say so - I don't think it'll be a problem for the Blazers _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Arizona wrote: | Buddha wrote: | I think in the end, Portland will have to choose between Bayless and Roy if they want to maximize the team's potential. I'd stick with Roy and trade Bayless for a pure PG (go for Deron Williams?). | Bayless is more of a shooting guard than a point guard. (Think Gilbert Arenas) although he is undersized for a shooting guard. |
That's exactly my point. See Melo and Iverson. _________________ I get up for everybody. I played my son today in the backyard and I didn't let him score." - Ron Artest |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:35 am Post subject: |
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actually the nuggets have issues because of defense - and the Blazers have the potential to be good defensively - far better than the Nuggets ever were _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:48 am Post subject: |
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emplay wrote: | actually the nuggets have issues because of defense - and the Blazers have the potential to be good defensively - far better than the Nuggets ever were |
While the Nuggets score alot of points, they aren't an efficient offense. Too much iso/black hole scoring. It's easily shut down by any decent defensive team as we saw in the playoffs, because they're scoring from just individual talent alone. This is the problem the Blazers can face from a Bayless/Roy pairing.
As for defense, it's more than just talent. Nuggets have Camby, and even if Oden can put up 14 rpg and 4 bpg (which i doubt), they can still suck defensively. _________________ I get up for everybody. I played my son today in the backyard and I didn't let him score." - Ron Artest |
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I didn't know Brandon Roy was known as a black hole? I think you're exaggerating. McMillan seems to be able to get his players to buy into the system and run it pretty unselfishly. Bayless is known as a bit of a black hole, though. But he's also a team guy and the teams he's been on haven't had a lot of talent so, like Kobe of the last few years, he takes on most of the scoring load. We'll see. One thing is for sure: Portland has a ton of talent and will be a formidable opponent this season, imo. _________________ “I’m just a basketball player, you know? Just put me where you need me.” -Lamar Odom
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: |
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hate on the Blzers if you want - they will be a force next year _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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