Phil Jackson wants Artest.

laker_pride · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:33 pm Post subject: Phil Jackson wants Artest.

I heard it this morning on Fred Roggin and Simers Square. Near the end of the show, Fred told TJ Simers that Phil Jackson wants Artest. Fred said that Jeanie Buss had told him so. He went on to say that Phil Jackson is the only coach who can control such a player. Whether he can control Artest or not, that is not the issue, it's weather we can acquire him. Do we really need another Rodman or Isiaiah Rider. Can we come up with a decent package. I think he would be a better fit and a better defender than Kwame.
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Hector the Pup · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject:

$18 million on small forwards?

LuxuryBrown · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject:

So Phil is going to live with Artest to make sure he doesn't beat down his chicks? Interesting.
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AllorNothing · Franchise Player Joined: 08 Oct 2001 Posts: 18448

Phil can't control anybody anymore, maybe due to his physical health. Can't even control Cook and Bynum's temper and let's not get started with Smush.

LakersInFour · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject:

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LakersInFour · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject:

Besides, Artest wants to retire a King.
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*Dante* · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject:

I belive Artest said he wanted to retire a Pacer as well then 2 weeks later he demanded a trade.

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DoubleClutch · Star Player Joined: 02 Jun 2005 Posts: 2712 Location: Town

Debating Artest's stability off the court is one thing, but when he plays the guy is a star caliber player. Former DPOY. 19 points, 6 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 steals last year. If you can get a guy like that for Kwame and say Farmar, you do it.

It's not like we were a Finals caliber team last year, and should be afraid he might mess up our "winning" chemistry. He brings the one thing we lack most - defense. A trio of Kobe-Artest-Odom would be formidable, and we would have solid depth surrounding them. This is a no-brainer as far as I'm concerned.
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AllorNothing · Franchise Player Joined: 08 Oct 2001 Posts: 18448

He should be let go of his contract by the Kings to pursue a topnotch psychiatrist in LA.

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LVLAKERFAN · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:20 pm Post subject:

The one thing that I remember about Rodman is that he kicked a cameraman in the nuts on natinoal tv without a motive.

We really don't know what Artest did since there really isn't any video proof of him hitting his wife. When ever J-Kidd is brought up, I have yet to hear that he is a wife beater, because everyone believes his wife is culprit.

I really don't think Artest is as bad as everyone thinks he is. He seems to have a good heart and is usually upfront and honest from what I've seen.

People make a big about him asking for time off to work on his music because he was overwhelmed with all NBA life and being a business man. Shaq used to lie and say his big toe hurt to get time off instead of just being honest. Rodman was no business man. What kind of business did he have? He just liked to party all the time.

If I was in Artest's place and someone threw a beer at my face while I was laying down, I can't not see myself reacting any differently then he did. You have some problems if you believe that you would have done nothing in the spur of the moment in that type of situation.

Ron Artest has only had 3 technicals and 1 flagrant. Since the brawl Kobe has had 29 Technical fouls and 2 flagrants and multiple suspentions.

The only reason we aren't getting Artest is either because no one would take on Vlad or Luke in a trade for us and Sacremento wouldn't make it easy for to get him. It would be pretty dumb to trade for Artest when we have to other SF's making MLE type money along with Artest.

If we were able to deal Luke or Vlad for something decent, I'd give up a lot to get Artest
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Fan0Bynum17 · Franchise Player Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 15436

It would probably take Kwame, Farmar, and a future pick. The kings aren't ready to sell him off for nothing.

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waterman40 · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject:

I would, if it was for one of our SF's (Luke or Vlade) and change.
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davidse · Franchise Player Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 14302

a no brainer.
there is no better chance for this team to get two way contributions from a player for that cheap of a price.

yeah, the risk the risk... what exactly is it that we're risking ?
a title ?
nope.

farmar ?
big deal. not taking any risks is a huge part of getting us in this situation in the first place.

the guy is going to opt out in 1 year when a decision on him can be made based on his performance this season.
i'll take that risk thank you very much.

Hector the Pup · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject:

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Heartburn · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject:

wolfpaclaker · Retired Number Joined: 29 May 2002 Posts: 58391

One that's popping into my mind right now.

Phil wants Artest. Kobe wants Artest.

Is it possible a deal is in the works with Sacramento considering how much we invested in Fisher and just drafted Crittenton?

Something like:

Lakers trade: Farmar, Radmanovic and Kwame.
Kings trade: Artest, Thomas

Bynum/Turiaf
Odom/Cook
Artest/Walton
Kobe/Evans
Fisher/Crittenton

Hmm ....

KingKobe20 · Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject:

Hey guarantedd a netter defender than Kwame. Offense too. A please Kobe for sure. Do it Mitch!!!!DO IT!!!!!

pjiddy · Retired Number Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 29125

Farmar and Radman is a good offer for Artest.