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LakersMD
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| It is hard to fathom how he could be shooting a worse overall FG% than his career 37.9% average, but here we are. |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker_Dynasty_01 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Imagine if Lakers drafted Luka and he was then forced to be on the Pels as part of the AD trade.
I think it worked out just fine for us. |
I thought of that, but we'd certainly have been able to keep Ingram in this scenario, possibly even some draft picks. We could always move Ingram for a pick later on, had we received a commitment from Kawhi. |
Doubt it.
Pels would have had Luka AND BI. We would probably have kept 1 or 2 future 1sts instead.
So I think it worked out OK, b/c losing Luka would have been devastating for us.
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If you have Luka then you don’t trade him.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Laker_Dynasty_01 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Imagine if Lakers drafted Luka and he was then forced to be on the Pels as part of the AD trade.
I think it worked out just fine for us. |
I thought of that, but we'd certainly have been able to keep Ingram in this scenario, possibly even some draft picks. We could always move Ingram for a pick later on, had we received a commitment from Kawhi. |
Doubt it.
Pels would have had Luka AND BI. We would probably have kept 1 or 2 future 1sts instead.
So I think it worked out OK, b/c losing Luka would have been devastating for us. |
I forgot about the #4 pick for a moment (which we probably wouldn't have), so you're probably right. But at least we could keep Hart and a pick, and don't have to defer another.
VLF may be right, if we had the #4 to trade. But in that case, Kuzma might have to be thrown in to keep the trade alive. |
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3peat_pete
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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I thought he has a new shooting form? Maybe he needs to bring back his ugly UCLA shooting form back. 
Can't believe this was a dude included in an AD package. So unreal. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker_Dynasty_01 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Laker_Dynasty_01 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Imagine if Lakers drafted Luka and he was then forced to be on the Pels as part of the AD trade.
I think it worked out just fine for us. |
I thought of that, but we'd certainly have been able to keep Ingram in this scenario, possibly even some draft picks. We could always move Ingram for a pick later on, had we received a commitment from Kawhi. |
Doubt it.
Pels would have had Luka AND BI. We would probably have kept 1 or 2 future 1sts instead.
So I think it worked out OK, b/c losing Luka would have been devastating for us. |
I forgot about the #4 pick for a moment (which we probably wouldn't have), so you're probably right. But at least we could keep Hart and a pick, and don't have to defer another.
VLF may be right, if we had the #4 to trade. But in that case, Kuzma might have to be thrown in to keep the trade alive. |
There is no way I would trade Luka for AD. If that was a deal breaker, then no deal.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| Considering that Luka is a generational talent and his ceiling is that he could become a legendary player, I wouldn't trade him for AD either. Then you have to factor in the age, one is 20 and the other is 26. |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 8:21 am Post subject: |
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| 4stargeneralbulldog wrote: | | Considering that Luka is a generational talent and his ceiling is that he could become a legendary player, I wouldn't trade him for AD either. Then you have to factor in the age, one is 20 and the other is 26. |
In hindsight, for sure. But prior to this season, I can see people saying that they would for AD.
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I still can't believe we got AD for Lonzo and Hart. That's ridiculous. The trade was pretty much Ingram for AD straight up and some picks. Zo and Hart are 1000% expendable. I don't see Lonzo being on the Pels for much longer, they're gonna cut bait with him real soon.
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| Pelicans already have too many guards anyways..... |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| Ted wrote: | I still can't believe we got AD for Lonzo and Hart. That's ridiculous. The trade was pretty much Ingram for AD straight up and some picks. Zo and Hart are 1000% expendable. I don't see Lonzo being on the Pels for much longer, they're gonna cut bait with him real soon.
The Pelicans got fleeced. Thank you New Orleans |
I can see him coming back here for pay cut too |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2019 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| Ted wrote: | I still can't believe we got AD for Lonzo and Hart. That's ridiculous. The trade was pretty much Ingram for AD straight up and some picks. Zo and Hart are 1000% expendable. I don't see Lonzo being on the Pels for much longer, they're gonna cut bait with him real soon.
The Pelicans got fleeced. Thank you New Orleans |
Yep, and Lonzo is pretty much turning out to be a bust. I'm more interested in what they do with those picks. |
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LakerLogic
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| He doesn't care much for basketball and has too many weaknesses. His ceiling really is Ricky Rubio. |
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| Eh, Rubio is actually good, though. He’s capable of actually running and leading NBA offenses as the primary creator. He can come up big in huge moments. Check his World Cup MVP over the summer. Lonzo doesn’t get the same consistent penetration that Rubio does. |
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LakerLogic
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| Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Another triple single for Zo |
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Ted
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| Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:03 am Post subject: |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | Ted wrote: | I still can't believe we got AD for Lonzo and Hart. That's ridiculous. The trade was pretty much Ingram for AD straight up and some picks. Zo and Hart are 1000% expendable. I don't see Lonzo being on the Pels for much longer, they're gonna cut bait with him real soon.
The Pelicans got fleeced. Thank you New Orleans |
Yep, and Lonzo is pretty much turning out to be a bust. I'm more interested in what they do with those picks. |
Fulfill Lavar's dream and draft Lamelo #1 |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | If you have Luka then you don’t trade him. |
I hate it when Cuban wins... Luka had sorta average numbers in Europe and then shows up in the NBA is is LeBron James-2, how did he know?
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Luka is not the next Lebron James, he's the next Magic Johnson. Dude is insanely talented and he's only 20.. Mavs could very well be the next super team in the coming years. Cuban would never trade him for any package.
Lonzo, like I predicted, turned out to be a bust. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:59 am Post subject: |
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| chrisca91 wrote: | Luka is not the next Lebron James, he's the next Magic Johnson. Dude is insanely talented and he's only 20.. Mavs could very well be the next super team in the coming years. Cuban would never trade him for any package.
Lonzo, like I predicted, turned out to be a bust. |
Right, no player has ever peaked after 22. Impossible.
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| unleasHell wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | If you have Luka then you don’t trade him. |
I hate it when Cuban wins... Luka had sorta average numbers in Europe and then shows up in the NBA is is LeBron James-2, how did he know? |
A lot of people knew. His play is no surprise to fans who have followed him. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| 4stargeneralbulldog wrote: | | Considering that Luka is a generational talent and his ceiling is that he could become a legendary player, I wouldn't trade him for AD either. Then you have to factor in the age, one is 20 and the other is 26. |
Another factor is the position he plays. A ball handling guard that can put up 30 point triple doubles with high effieincy? Fuhgetaboutit. I think the word untradeable is used too loosely often but he's it.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| chrisca91 wrote: | Luka is not the next Lebron James, he's the next Magic Johnson. Dude is insanely talented and he's only 20.. Mavs could very well be the next super team in the coming years. Cuban would never trade him for any package.
Lonzo, like I predicted, turned out to be a bust. |
Lebron is the hybrid Magic/MJ.
Playstyle wise, I'd say Luka is a hybrid Bird/Magic.
Damn Cuban got himself a good one.
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| Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Bill Oram put Lonzo on his Lakers All Decade list. I thought that was an odd choice. |
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LakerDYnasty72
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| Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | If you have Luka then you don’t trade him. |
After seeing this kid in his rookie year, I'm astonished anyone would trade him. If I'm a GM, and obtained him, as good as AD is, everyone but Doncic is going, in short, he's a no trade.
If anything, I'd seek to add talent to play with him. My goodness he's a keeper. |
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| Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| TDRock wrote: | | Bill Oram put Lonzo on his Lakers All Decade list. I thought that was an odd choice. |
I know this decade has been pretty dark but I don't get that. Unless he's just ranking him because of what a big story he (and mostly his loudmouth father) was. |
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