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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:39 pm Post subject: 2020 Major League Baseball Thread |
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Spring Training has started!
- How will teams respond to the Astros, and how with the Astros respond the negative spotlight?
- Are the Dodgers beatable in the NL? Will we get the epic Dodgers/Yankees World Series?
- Are the Reds really back?
- Will there be a breakout MVP or CY Young winner....or just the normal suspects?
- Will the 3 batter minimum impact the game? Will a pitcher fake an injury to get out of the game early?
- Will Trout still be considered the best player in the game after the season?
I am ready for baseball..... |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Bold prediction, Trout will be the best player in MLB _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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loslakersss Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Dodgers will win 100+ games |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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loslakersss wrote: | Dodgers will win 100+ games |
probably....but not 100% sure they have 100+ win starting rotation? Will there be any decline in Kershaw and Price? Will Wood be healthy? |
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loslakersss Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | loslakersss wrote: | Dodgers will win 100+ games |
probably....but not 100% sure they have 100+ win starting rotation? Will there be any decline in Kershaw and Price? Will Wood be healthy? |
I think Buehler will win 20 games, Kershaw and Price maybe around 15 each. Not sure about the rest of the guys though since it seems the 4/5 spots might be by-committee. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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loslakersss wrote: | adkindo wrote: | loslakersss wrote: | Dodgers will win 100+ games |
probably....but not 100% sure they have 100+ win starting rotation? Will there be any decline in Kershaw and Price? Will Wood be healthy? |
I think Buehler will win 20 games, Kershaw and Price maybe around 15 each. Not sure about the rest of the guys though since it seems the 4/5 spots might be by-committee. |
The starting pitching is plenty good enough to get through the regular season. Buehler is a legit ace. Kershaw, even if he pitches more to his FIP this season, is at least a #3. Ditto Price, who was actually outstanding last year before the cyst issues derailed him, and moving from the AL East to the NL West (and to the NL in general) should be a good little boost for him. Urias, if healthy, might pitch better than a #3. And all the other options are capable of pitching like middle-of-the-rotation options, from Wood to Gonsolin to Stripling to May. And the good news is that the Dodgers can just plug in one of those guys if there's an injury or to keep guys' innings down.
I'm more concerned about the bullpen, though there's legit upside with that group. I am not necessarily buying the Jansen-has-found-his-cutter-again talk, but I suppose it's good that he was at 93-94 in his first spring action today, as opposed to 85-87 during his first outing last season in the spring. Treinen will be a major asset even if he just splits the difference between his superlative 2018 and his down 2019. Kelly has been up-and-down in his career but we saw flashes last year, so if he is on an upswing heading to the postseason (he wasn't last season physically), we've seen what he can do in a postseason when he's in form. And Graterol gives us another potential high-end talent there. We know what Baez is at this point, which is a fairly reliable 6th-7th inning guy, but I can't count him as someone with upside for more at this point. Still, he's come a long way, and good for him. Basically, if two of the 4 of Jansen/Treinen/Kelly/Graterol hit their ceilings, we should be fine. If three of the 4 do, look out. If only one (or none) of the 4 do, we'll probably be in the market for a high-impact reliever before the trade deadline. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 7:03 am Post subject: |
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How good can the Angels be? Wild Card team? Better? |
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loslakersss Franchise Player
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ChickenStu wrote: | loslakersss wrote: | adkindo wrote: | loslakersss wrote: | Dodgers will win 100+ games |
probably....but not 100% sure they have 100+ win starting rotation? Will there be any decline in Kershaw and Price? Will Wood be healthy? |
I think Buehler will win 20 games, Kershaw and Price maybe around 15 each. Not sure about the rest of the guys though since it seems the 4/5 spots might be by-committee. |
The starting pitching is plenty good enough to get through the regular season. Buehler is a legit ace. Kershaw, even if he pitches more to his FIP this season, is at least a #3. Ditto Price, who was actually outstanding last year before the cyst issues derailed him, and moving from the AL East to the NL West (and to the NL in general) should be a good little boost for him. Urias, if healthy, might pitch better than a #3. And all the other options are capable of pitching like middle-of-the-rotation options, from Wood to Gonsolin to Stripling to May. And the good news is that the Dodgers can just plug in one of those guys if there's an injury or to keep guys' innings down.
I'm more concerned about the bullpen, though there's legit upside with that group. I am not necessarily buying the Jansen-has-found-his-cutter-again talk, but I suppose it's good that he was at 93-94 in his first spring action today, as opposed to 85-87 during his first outing last season in the spring. Treinen will be a major asset even if he just splits the difference between his superlative 2018 and his down 2019. Kelly has been up-and-down in his career but we saw flashes last year, so if he is on an upswing heading to the postseason (he wasn't last season physically), we've seen what he can do in a postseason when he's in form. And Graterol gives us another potential high-end talent there. We know what Baez is at this point, which is a fairly reliable 6th-7th inning guy, but I can't count him as someone with upside for more at this point. Still, he's come a long way, and good for him. Basically, if two of the 4 of Jansen/Treinen/Kelly/Graterol hit their ceilings, we should be fine. If three of the 4 do, look out. If only one (or none) of the 4 do, we'll probably be in the market for a high-impact reliever before the trade deadline. |
The loss of Maeda definitely hurts our bullpen but hopefully our offense is enough to offset any pitching deficiencies. |
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Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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loslakersss wrote: | How good can the Angels be? Wild Card team? Better? |
They are really solid in the top half of their lineup. We (Reds) played them yesterday and they used their normal top of the lineup, and it was the first time I realized the strength of it....
- Fletcher
- Trout
- Rendon
- Ohtani
- Upton
- Pujols
That could be a tough 5 or 6 guys to get through without them doing any damage. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | loslakersss wrote: | How good can the Angels be? Wild Card team? Better? |
They are really solid in the top half of their lineup. We (Reds) played them yesterday and they used their normal top of the lineup, and it was the first time I realized the strength of it....
- Fletcher
- Trout
- Rendon
- Ohtani
- Upton
- Pujols
That could be a tough 5 or 6 guys to get through without them doing any damage. |
They might need to be the AL's version of the Colorado Rockies this year, because Griffin Canning felt something in his elbow yesterday and is going for an MRI. Joe Maddon admits concern. He was one of their only starters with some semblance of upside to be more than just a guy. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | loslakersss wrote: | How good can the Angels be? Wild Card team? Better? |
They are really solid in the top half of their lineup. We (Reds) played them yesterday and they used their normal top of the lineup, and it was the first time I realized the strength of it....
- Fletcher
- Trout
- Rendon
- Ohtani
- Upton
- Pujols
That could be a tough 5 or 6 guys to get through without them doing any damage. |
With the Angels, the issue is always going to be their pitching. _________________ KOBE |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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Reds smacked the Dodgers around today....probably a solid foreshadow of what to expect this season. They always say what happens in Spring Training is usually exactly what will happen in the season. |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Bold prediction, Trout will be the best player in MLB |
This is as certain as high and inside pitches to Altuve this year.
I've watched tons of Angels games since Pujols came over from Stl. Trout has made that very easy to do. Ohtani has been a very nice surprise, and Rendon is downright insane. Its going to be a very exciting season. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Barry Bonds gripes about being an outcast in baseball.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28871060/barry-bonds-says-feels-mlb-given-death-sentence
So what do you think?
Will Bonds (and Clemens) get to 75% before their eligibility expires? I think it's a 50/50 proposition, but I'll bet on Yes.
If they do not get to 75%, will the Era Committee induct them? I think it won't happen immediately, but it will eventually happen. |
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Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:04 am Post subject: |
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I don't see how you can let them in. They were caught cheating, their records are tarnished. |
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The case for Bonds and Clemens, and the steroids era in general, is more complicated than that. The fact that the vote for Bonds has gone from 36% to 60% reflects this. I'm curious whether there will be enough extra votes in the next couple elections to push him over the line. |
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Aeneas Hunter wrote: | I'm curious whether there will be enough extra votes in the next couple elections to push him over the line. |
You’d be one of the few who are still curious. Seems that most analysts think his and Clemens’ chances are zero. |
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I don't see how you can let them in. They were caught cheating, their records are tarnished. |
I think if there is one thing we have learned in the last couple of months it's that the League doesn't really care about cheating . . . now gambling, that's a HOF death sentence. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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The delay in games and the Virus in general is probably the greatest thing the spineless cheaters over at the Astros could have happen to them. _________________ Creatures crawl in search of blood, To terrorize y'alls neighborhood. |
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eddiejonze wrote: | The delay in games and the Virus in general is probably the greatest thing the spineless cheaters over at the Astros could have happen to them. |
They should just eliminate the Astros from the schedule to allow the League to make up games faster when they return. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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would never happen but a damn good idea _________________ Creatures crawl in search of blood, To terrorize y'alls neighborhood. |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | eddiejonze wrote: | The delay in games and the Virus in general is probably the greatest thing the spineless cheaters over at the Astros could have happen to them. |
They should just eliminate the Astros from the schedule to allow the League to make up games faster when they return. |
Haha, brilliant.
But selfishly I don't want to miss out on giving them hell when they come to Seattle, whenever that's going to now be. |
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