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wolfpaclaker
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How do the Pels get a healthy Zion and are 4-5? Thought Gentry was a problem, yet they changed coaches and still having issues even beating a Hornet team.
Ingram is playing very well, his O rating is an impressive 117, and his numbers remain all-star worthy.
Could be that Zion/Ingram do not compliment each other that well, yet? I have not seen enough to really say I could know, but historically an all-star wing and another high usage power forward have not faired great in the past. They are a team that screams out to me that needed someone like CP3. Wonder why they did not go after him, the Suns will be a western conference contender due to that move. |
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Luminous8
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | How do the Pels get a healthy Zion and are 4-5? Thought Gentry was a problem, yet they changed coaches and still having issues even beating a Hornet team.
Ingram is playing very well, his O rating is an impressive 117, and his numbers remain all-star worthy.
Could be that Zion/Ingram do not compliment each other that well, yet? I have not seen enough to really say I could know, but historically an all-star wing and another high usage power forward have not faired great in the past. They are a team that screams out to me that needed someone like CP3. Wonder why they did not go after him, the Suns will be a western conference contender due to that move. |
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Has zero to do with BI/Zion. It has to do with the fact they can’t get anything consistently from Zo/Bledsoe offensively and their bench has been no existent. Aside from the Hornets/Suns the rest of the losses were situations where the starters (BI) went out of the game with a 7-8 point lead then came back in with the same deficit. So now the starters are playing the fourth quarter scratching out of a hole. BI having such a large work load makes it even more difficult because it seems his legs are a little low in the last minute or two.
That on top of having an entirely new system to learn both offensively and defensively without a real training camp. That team may or may not be a playoff team. Too early to really tell. |
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SocalDevin
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| Luminous8 wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | How do the Pels get a healthy Zion and are 4-5? Thought Gentry was a problem, yet they changed coaches and still having issues even beating a Hornet team.
Ingram is playing very well, his O rating is an impressive 117, and his numbers remain all-star worthy.
Could be that Zion/Ingram do not compliment each other that well, yet? I have not seen enough to really say I could know, but historically an all-star wing and another high usage power forward have not faired great in the past. They are a team that screams out to me that needed someone like CP3. Wonder why they did not go after him, the Suns will be a western conference contender due to that move. |
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Has zero to do with BI/Zion. It has to do with the fact they can’t get anything consistently from Zo/Bledsoe offensively and their bench has been no existent. Aside from the Hornets/Suns the rest of the losses were situations where the starters (BI) went out of the game with a 7-8 point lead then came back in with the same deficit. So now the starters are playing the fourth quarter scratching out of a hole. BI having such a large work load makes it even more difficult because it seems his legs are a little low in the last minute or two.
That on top of having an entirely new system to learn both offensively and defensively without a real training camp. That team may or may not be a playoff team. Too early to really tell. |
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BigBoi
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| Luminous8 wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | How do the Pels get a healthy Zion and are 4-5? Thought Gentry was a problem, yet they changed coaches and still having issues even beating a Hornet team.
Ingram is playing very well, his O rating is an impressive 117, and his numbers remain all-star worthy.
Could be that Zion/Ingram do not compliment each other that well, yet? I have not seen enough to really say I could know, but historically an all-star wing and another high usage power forward have not faired great in the past. They are a team that screams out to me that needed someone like CP3. Wonder why they did not go after him, the Suns will be a western conference contender due to that move. |
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Has zero to do with BI/Zion. It has to do with the fact they can’t get anything consistently from Zo/Bledsoe offensively and their bench has been no existent. Aside from the Hornets/Suns the rest of the losses were situations where the starters (BI) went out of the game with a 7-8 point lead then came back in with the same deficit. So now the starters are playing the fourth quarter scratching out of a hole. BI having such a large work load makes it even more difficult because it seems his legs are a little low in the last minute or two.
That on top of having an entirely new system to learn both offensively and defensively without a real training camp. That team may or may not be a playoff team. Too early to really tell. |
Bi doesn’t even have a small forward to back him up and zero wing help whatsoever. Not to talk of the crappy spacing surrounding BI/Zion. Who’s idea was it to build this archaic team in this modern era of pace n space 
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audioaxes
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I think it was pretty dumb with how they seemingly traded down the #4 Lakers pick for the fun of it. They could have had Deandre Hunter who is shaping up into being a really good 3 and D wing.
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Luminous8
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| BigBoi wrote: | | Luminous8 wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | How do the Pels get a healthy Zion and are 4-5? Thought Gentry was a problem, yet they changed coaches and still having issues even beating a Hornet team.
Ingram is playing very well, his O rating is an impressive 117, and his numbers remain all-star worthy.
Could be that Zion/Ingram do not compliment each other that well, yet? I have not seen enough to really say I could know, but historically an all-star wing and another high usage power forward have not faired great in the past. They are a team that screams out to me that needed someone like CP3. Wonder why they did not go after him, the Suns will be a western conference contender due to that move. |
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Has zero to do with BI/Zion. It has to do with the fact they can’t get anything consistently from Zo/Bledsoe offensively and their bench has been no existent. Aside from the Hornets/Suns the rest of the losses were situations where the starters (BI) went out of the game with a 7-8 point lead then came back in with the same deficit. So now the starters are playing the fourth quarter scratching out of a hole. BI having such a large work load makes it even more difficult because it seems his legs are a little low in the last minute or two.
That on top of having an entirely new system to learn both offensively and defensively without a real training camp. That team may or may not be a playoff team. Too early to really tell. |
Bi doesn’t even have a small forward to back him up and zero wing help whatsoever. Not to talk of the crappy spacing surrounding BI/Zion. Who’s idea was it to build this archaic team in this modern era of pace n space |
Griffin really failed at putting a proper team together. I wonder if a lot of that was at SVG’s rewuest for “tough dogs” who couldn’t space the floor but would try on D. Then turn around and go with a defensive philosophy that hopes teams simply don’t shoot well for both halves. No wing help, no backup 4 and their backup 5 has been Hayes over Hernangomez and that guy is a Terrible rebounder, terrified to set screens, and has some of the worst hoop iq I’ve ever seen. This including a young JaVale McGee.
Curious to see if they don’t try and fix some of the glaring weaknesses or keep the roster intact and play the “it was a developmental year” card while making guys like BI who are ready to win, unhappy and causing feelings of the front office not actually caring about winning. |
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