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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:46 pm Post subject:
I think I'll wait until this series finishes out, we rate a little higher if we sweep the Heat. But as of now, we are not as good as the Showtime Lakers with Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Scott and Rambis/Green. And I think the Kobe/Shaq Lakers were better, in that they won 3 rings, which our current group hasn't done yet. Where I think we are about even with is the Kobe/Pau/Odom Lakers, I say we will be slightly ahead of them if we sweep the Heat. _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions!
It is better than the 2008-2010 Lakers team and the Wilt/West championship team, but not as good as the Kobe/Shaq 3 peat squad or the OG showtime squad.
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:48 pm Post subject:
With the circumstances surrounding this season I’m gonna say that it’s gonna be damn near impossible to compare this team to any other in the history of the league.
This team is better focused and play better ball than the 2008-2010 Lakers. I wont say more talented because Bynum's true potential was off the charts.
I would say overall the Shaq-Kobe Lakers were slightly better than this squad.
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:06 pm Post subject:
I feel like it’s in-between the 08-09 and 09-10 Laker championship teams. 08-09 had better depth— clear third option in Odom and better role players (Ariza, Fisher, etc.). The main advantage this team has is that AD is much better than Pau. I suppose Dwight and hobbled playoff Bynum more or less cancel out— perhaps slight edge to Dwight.
But it’s better than the 09-10 version. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:17 pm Post subject:
Styles have changed. So, comparing amongst eras is difficult. I don't think this team is as good as the 00-02 Lakers, primarily because Shaq would eat any of our players alive.
I think this team is better than the 08-10 Lakers.
With the circumstances surrounding this season I’m gonna say that it’s gonna be damn near impossible to compare this team to any other in the history of the league.
So yeah. I have no clue.
That's a real shame. Because this team is very very good. I wish we could have seen them in the playoffs at home and on the road.
I feel like it’s in-between the 08-09 and 09-10 Laker championship teams. 08-09 had better depth— clear third option in Odom and better role players (Ariza, Fisher, etc.). The main advantage this team has is that AD is much better than Pau. I suppose Dwight and hobbled playoff Bynum more or less cancel out— perhaps slight edge to Dwight.
But it’s better than the 09-10 version.
We got to see those teams play more games.. AD vs Gasol would have been fantastic. Kobe vs LeBron was something that we were forever cheated out of.
Can we wait until they win two more games? _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.”
Joined: 22 Apr 2001 Posts: 1677 Location: Cerritos, California
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:38 pm Post subject:
LAII wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
I feel like it’s in-between the 08-09 and 09-10 Laker championship teams. 08-09 had better depth— clear third option in Odom and better role players (Ariza, Fisher, etc.). The main advantage this team has is that AD is much better than Pau. I suppose Dwight and hobbled playoff Bynum more or less cancel out— perhaps slight edge to Dwight.
But it’s better than the 09-10 version.
We got to see those teams play more games.. AD vs Gasol would have been fantastic. Kobe vs LeBron was something that we were forever cheated out of.
I don't think AD and Gasol would be that exciting. I think AD is a far superior player to Gasol. Lebron vs. Kobe would be interesting.
This team would have no shot against the Shaq/Kobe Lakers. As phenomenal as AD is, prime Shaq would have broken him in half, and LeBron even though he can still turn it on defensively at this age, could in no way keep up with prodigy Kobe.
I think it's low key one of the greatest teams of all time. LeBron and AD obviously a historic level duo, but the roleplayers have been great too. Rondo and Dwight aren't their young selves, but they can still play and they ditched their old weaknesses because Rondo can shoot now and Dwight is a total team player. Everyone who gets playing time is an above average defender, I think even Kuz. Defensively I think this is the most consistent Laker team I've ever seen. They have shooting, speed, size, they really have it all.
They mowed down 3 opponents who a lot of people thought would give them trouble. It's just kind of unfortunate they ended up with a dud Finals opponent, that will probably diminish their stature a bit, but I don't care, I'll take the win.
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Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:58 pm Post subject:
Bol wrote:
I think it's low key one of the greatest teams of all time. LeBron and AD obviously a historic level duo, but the roleplayers have been great too. Rondo and Dwight aren't their young selves, but they can still play and they ditched their old weaknesses because Rondo can shoot now and Dwight is a total team player. Everyone who gets playing time is an above average defender, I think even Kuz. Defensively I think this is the most consistent Laker team I've ever seen. They have shooting, speed, size, they really have it all.
They mowed down 3 opponents who a lot of people thought would give them trouble. It's just kind of unfortunate they ended up with a dud Finals opponent, that will probably diminish their stature a bit, but I don't care, I'll take the win.
I still think the lack of a consistent third scoring option and lack of shooting make it weaker than a lot of championship teams in recent memory. I’m not sure it would even beat last year’s Raptors team. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
With the circumstances surrounding this season I’m gonna say that it’s gonna be damn near impossible to compare this team to any other in the history of the league.
So yeah. I have no clue.
That's how I feel. It's also one of the reasons it's hard to compare them to the 08-10 Lakers. Those teams had to go through peak Duncan, Nash, Amare, Yao, KG, Carmelo, Pierce, etc.
Too bad the Clippers pulled a historic choke job and deprived us of a Kawhi vs Lebron showdown.
This is the best team under some unusual circumstances, but it is silly to compare this team to some of the better Lakers Championship teams. Those teams had superior chemistry; not only did they have 82 regular season games to hone their craft, those teams had players and coaching staffs that had developed together for more than just the length of one season.
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:18 am Post subject:
Sina wrote:
This team may be good in this small ball era. But I don’t think they’re better than both Kobe’s teams:
DH vs Bynum
AD vs Gasol
LBJ vs MWP
Green vs Kobe
KCP/Rando vs Fisher
Kuz vs Odom
Gasol could match peak DH, KD and TD.
Disagree, especially on Durant. AD is way too athletic for Gasol to defend. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
I think our 2010 championship team was our weakest. I would put that team above this years team (not even favoring them because they beat the Celtics). I would give this years team the edge when comparing the big 2. I would give the 2010 the big advantage from that point on (Fish, Lamar, Meta, and Bynum) when not comparing position for position.
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