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Wilt LG Contributor
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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We could now the VP pick by tomorrow evening, according to NYT. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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I don't like Biden being under so much pressure to pick a Black woman VP _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | We could now the VP pick by tomorrow evening, according to NYT. |
Oh, that will be fun. Can't wait for the (bleep) of infighting that is going to happen on the left as a large segment of it inevitably (bleep) and moans and starts accelerating the old Russian propaganda machines with all the alleged reasons why the pick sucks. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Kanye's presidential run is going to be a bigger factor than many of you think in my estimation. It has nothing to do with simply trying to siphon votes from Biden. It's all about muddying the waters with alleged corruption amongst the Democratic Party. I'm more convinced than ever that the Trump campaign is manipulating. West as a tool.
KANYE WEST:
DEMOCRATS SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN ... _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:38 am Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | Kanye's presidential run is going to be a bigger factor than many of you think in my estimation. It has nothing to do with simply trying to siphon votes from Biden. It's all about muddying the waters with alleged corruption amongst the Democratic Party. I'm more convinced than ever that the Trump campaign is manipulating. West as a tool.
KANYE WEST:
DEMOCRATS SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN ... |
Kanye is mentally ill. His wife has said so publicly. If someone is going to take his word over the DNC. That person was always a lost cause IMO. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | AOC to speak at Dem convention |
https://www.axios.com/aoc-democrats-convention-speech-deb9a1c6-955a-43af-9637-c99bc2b07f2b.html
We'll see how this compares to Obama's 2004 speech.
She isn't a past President of the Harvard Law Review (like '04 Barack).
But if she speaks to her personal history and channels the spirit from some of her past speeches in Congress. I could see it going very well for her. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:16 am Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | DaMuleRules wrote: | Kanye's presidential run is going to be a bigger factor than many of you think in my estimation. It has nothing to do with simply trying to siphon votes from Biden. It's all about muddying the waters with alleged corruption amongst the Democratic Party. I'm more convinced than ever that the Trump campaign is manipulating. West as a tool.
KANYE WEST:
DEMOCRATS SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN ... |
Kanye is mentally ill. His wife has said so publicly. If someone is going to take his word over the DNC. That person was always a lost cause IMO. |
Have you seen the current POtuS? Mental illness is perfectly fine with the Republicans as long as it brings what they want. The point is, this will be another voice allegedly "independent" from Trump's campaign that will be screaming about voter fraud and a dirty DNC. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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ribeye Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:09 am Post subject: |
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She is an exceptionally charismatic speaker, as she showed on the House floor when addressing Ted Yoho's sexist vulgarity. Hopefully, she lets up a bit on the far left throttle for this and tries to broaden her appeal. She could be a superstar. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo" |
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:14 am Post subject: |
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ribeye wrote: |
She is an exceptionally charismatic speaker, as she showed on the House floor when addressing Ted Yoho's sexist vulgarity. Hopefully, she lets up a bit on the far left throttle for this and tries to broaden her appeal. She could be a superstar. |
She really needs to tailor her speech to attract the more moderate voters. The GOP loves to use her to fear-monger. |
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president jesus Rookie
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:21 am Post subject: |
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It's a homophobic smear campaign ("24 year-old gay man uses Grindr" is not a #MeToo offense) to protect literally the most corrupt member of Congress. Richie Neal is actually the poster child of "both sides are the same". |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:30 am Post subject: |
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president jesus wrote: |
It's a homophobic smear campaign ("24 year-old gay man uses Grindr" is not a #MeToo offense) to protect literally the most corrupt member of Congress. Richie Neal is actually the poster child of "both sides are the same". |
Would you care to post some links to other articles to back up both arguments and add additional facts and context? |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:36 am Post subject: |
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And are you greenfrog back from the dead? |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:39 am Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | And are you greenfrog back from the dead? |
Oh, look. I guessed right. |
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Freddie Buckets Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:45 am Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | I don't like Biden being under so much pressure to pick a Black woman VP |
Me either. However, I think he was going to pick a black woman anyway. |
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Freddie Buckets Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:46 am Post subject: |
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It's looking Susan Rice will be Biden's VP pick. I don't know much about her tbh.
I was hoping for Harris. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 8:55 am Post subject: |
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angrypuppy wrote: | ribeye wrote: |
She is an exceptionally charismatic speaker, as she showed on the House floor when addressing Ted Yoho's sexist vulgarity. Hopefully, she lets up a bit on the far left throttle for this and tries to broaden her appeal. She could be a superstar. |
She really needs to tailor her speech to attract the more moderate voters. The GOP loves to use her to fear-monger. |
I think they're inviting her to speak to help secure the left wing of the Democratic party. And she can do that and not be "scary" to more moderate Dems by talking about what she wants every American to have (affordable healthcare, affordable higher education, equality under the law, a wage they can live off of, a world not wrecked by climate change, etc.).
The GOP is "afraid" of her because of her race, gender, physical attractiveness, and charisma.
No matter what she says, the GOP and Fox "News" will obsessively demonize her. She's not too different from Obama in that respect. Heck she's not too different from the people in her district she represents (60% being Hispanic or Black, median income $58,331) in that respect. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Freddie Buckets wrote: | It's looking Susan Rice will be Biden's VP pick. I don't know much about her tbh.
I was hoping for Harris. |
She's my choice also.
Susan Rice wiki _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Wilt LG Contributor
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Freddie Buckets wrote: | It's looking Susan Rice will be Biden's VP pick. I don't know much about her tbh.
I was hoping for Harris. |
Source? _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:43 am Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | And are you greenfrog back from the dead? |
And dead again _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Freddie Buckets Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | Freddie Buckets wrote: | It's looking Susan Rice will be Biden's VP pick. I don't know much about her tbh.
I was hoping for Harris. |
Source? |
Betting markets have fluctuated to Rice |
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angrypuppy Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 10:48 am Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | angrypuppy wrote: | ribeye wrote: |
She is an exceptionally charismatic speaker, as she showed on the House floor when addressing Ted Yoho's sexist vulgarity. Hopefully, she lets up a bit on the far left throttle for this and tries to broaden her appeal. She could be a superstar. |
She really needs to tailor her speech to attract the more moderate voters. The GOP loves to use her to fear-monger. |
I think they're inviting her to speak to help secure the left wing of the Democratic party. And she can do that and not be "scary" to more moderate Dems by talking about what she wants every American to have (affordable healthcare, affordable higher education, equality under the law, a wage they can live off of, a world not wrecked by climate change, etc.).
The GOP is "afraid" of her because of her race, gender, physical attractiveness, and charisma.
No matter what she says, the GOP and Fox "News" will obsessively demonize her. She's not too different from Obama in that respect. Heck she's not too different from the people in her district she represents (60% being Hispanic or Black, median income $58,331) in that respect. |
Any moderate Dem will vote for the Biden ticket without regard to his VP pick. It's the independent voters that concern me, as they're more susceptible to the GOP/Fox fear mongering. I don't want to see swing states turning red in this upcoming election. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:28 am Post subject: |
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angrypuppy wrote: |
Any moderate Dem will vote for the Biden ticket without regard to his VP pick. It's the independent voters that concern me, as they're more susceptible to the GOP/Fox fear mongering. I don't want to see swing states turning red in this upcoming election. |
AOC, Sanders, and Warren are pretty much the only progressives giving speeches. If people aren't gonna vote Democrat because the DNC allowed them to speak at the convention. I question if those people were ever swing voters to begin with. I mean AOC, Sanders, and Warren do represent some of the party. Don't think it's wise to alienate or neuter that whole wing. Besides for every 1 progressive there are 3 moderates speaking.
Quote: | Aug 17: @MichelleObama @SenSanders @amyklobuchar @NYGovCuomo
Aug 18: @DrBiden @BillClinton @AOC @JohnKerry
Aug 19: @SpeakerPelosi @HillaryClinton @ewarren @BarackObama
Aug 20: @JoeBiden @CoryBooker @PeteButtigieg @KamalaHarris |
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Wilt LG Contributor
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Biden has chosen his VP. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Per CNN: Biden is now calling the candidates who were not chosen. They report Rep Bass was not chosen. |
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