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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:50 pm    Post subject:

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Brandon Ingram with a near 50/40/90 year on 25 PPG 6 Rebounds 4 Assists, at 22 years old.

Great stuff.


He still needs to grow in a few areas..

Runs up the court with his back to the ball handler..
Poor off-ball defense..
Presses on off shooting nights, instead of altering his shot selection and energy in other areas.
Passes are off target as well.

Aside from that he's pretty good for a 22 year old..


So what do we think his upside is at this point. I still see potential superstar.


Him being only 22, and putting up all-star numbers while making the all-star team.. I wouldn't rule out superstar. And that's based on him being 22 years old primarily, and hungry for growth.

I was of the mind that he had perennial all-star potential.. If he continues to improve at the current rate he has superstar potential. Maybe he settles somewhere between the two..

I'd like to see him care more on defense though. When he was with us you could tell he didn't like being scored on. Now it doesn't seem to bother him at all. Gentry is partly to blame, but hopefully that's rectified.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:38 pm    Post subject:

^^ I was a BI naysayer but I think he's well on his way to being at least a PG13 type player. I personally think his iso game is WAY ahead of PG13's.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:21 pm    Post subject:

Has there ever been a guy that suddenly increased his FT% 20% in Year 4 after being pretty consistent the first 3 years? BI's stroke has become so much more reliable this year. I wonder if this is the BI we would have seen post ASG last year as he was playing like this then, though sample size was incredibly short.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:58 pm    Post subject:

BI had a couple tough in and out 3's that could have sealed a victory in regulation
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:32 pm    Post subject:

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BI had a couple tough in and out 3's that could have sealed a victory in regulation


Could have but, he has a coach that encourages poor shot selection. They take 3's even when they aren't open. I would have preferred he hadn't taken some of those shots.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:35 pm    Post subject:

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Has there ever been a guy that suddenly increased his FT% 20% in Year 4 after being pretty consistent the first 3 years? BI's stroke has become so much more reliable this year. I wonder if this is the BI we would have seen post ASG last year as he was playing like this then, though sample size was incredibly short.


Unlike Lonzo, I believe the stroke has always been there for Ingram. Since Summer League in his second year, I thought his shot form has been wet. I'm not shocked that he's a good 3-point shooter, nor am I shocked that he became a solid FT shooter. What I am shocked at, absolutely shocked, is that he's basically turned into prime Magic Johnson at the FT line. His spike in FT % is stunning.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 1:44 am    Post subject:

Alvin Gentry needs to go.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:42 am    Post subject:

Lets see if the Pels give Ingram a DLO sized contract. My guess is they like what they see and will give him the $20 million + a year.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:56 am    Post subject:

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Alvin Gentry needs to go.


This. The man simply doesn’t get it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 4:54 am    Post subject:

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Lets see if the Pels give Ingram a DLO sized contract. My guess is they like what they see and will give him the $20 million + a year.


Ingram is going to get his full max.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:10 am    Post subject:

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Alvin Gentry needs to go.


This. The man simply doesn’t get it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:20 am    Post subject:

Luminous8 wrote:
SocalDevin wrote:
MJST wrote:
Brandon Ingram with a near 50/40/90 year on 25 PPG 6 Rebounds 4 Assists, at 22 years old.

Great stuff.


He still needs to grow in a few areas..

Runs up the court with his back to the ball handler..
Poor off-ball defense..
Presses on off shooting nights, instead of altering his shot selection and energy in other areas.
Passes are off target as well.

Aside from that he's pretty good for a 22 year old..


So what do we think his upside is at this point. I still see potential superstar.


He really needs to get some weight to reach his full potential, especially on D.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:21 am    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
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Lets see if the Pels give Ingram a DLO sized contract. My guess is they like what they see and will give him the $20 million + a year.


Ingram is going to get his full max.


Amen
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:32 am    Post subject:

SocalDevin wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
SocalDevin wrote:
MJST wrote:
Brandon Ingram with a near 50/40/90 year on 25 PPG 6 Rebounds 4 Assists, at 22 years old.

Great stuff.


He still needs to grow in a few areas..

Runs up the court with his back to the ball handler..
Poor off-ball defense..
Presses on off shooting nights, instead of altering his shot selection and energy in other areas.
Passes are off target as well.

Aside from that he's pretty good for a 22 year old..


So what do we think his upside is at this point. I still see potential superstar.


Him being only 22, and putting up all-star numbers while making the all-star team.. I wouldn't rule out superstar. And that's based on him being 22 years old primarily, and hungry for growth.

I was of the mind that he had perennial all-star potential.. If he continues to improve at the current rate he has superstar potential. Maybe he settles somewhere between the two..

I'd like to see him care more on defense though. When he was with us you could tell he didn't like being scored on. Now it doesn't seem to bother him at all. Gentry is partly to blame, but hopefully that's rectified.


I agree that his defense was better when he was with us, but I would not rule out that it's related to the WAY bigger offensive role and responsibilities that he's having with the pels.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 3:59 pm    Post subject:

cencio_999 wrote:
SocalDevin wrote:
Luminous8 wrote:
SocalDevin wrote:
MJST wrote:
Brandon Ingram with a near 50/40/90 year on 25 PPG 6 Rebounds 4 Assists, at 22 years old.

Great stuff.


He still needs to grow in a few areas..

Runs up the court with his back to the ball handler..
Poor off-ball defense..
Presses on off shooting nights, instead of altering his shot selection and energy in other areas.
Passes are off target as well.

Aside from that he's pretty good for a 22 year old..


So what do we think his upside is at this point. I still see potential superstar.


Him being only 22, and putting up all-star numbers while making the all-star team.. I wouldn't rule out superstar. And that's based on him being 22 years old primarily, and hungry for growth.

I was of the mind that he had perennial all-star potential.. If he continues to improve at the current rate he has superstar potential. Maybe he settles somewhere between the two..

I'd like to see him care more on defense though. When he was with us you could tell he didn't like being scored on. Now it doesn't seem to bother him at all. Gentry is partly to blame, but hopefully that's rectified.


I agree that his defense was better when he was with us, but I would not rule out that it's related to the WAY bigger offensive role and responsibilities that he's having with the pels.


You're probably right.. most likely a combination of that and Gentry.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:45 am    Post subject:

He is already putting up superstar like numbers. What gets him there is winning. That's the only difference. Maybe that comes with improved defense.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:54 pm    Post subject:

Tough shooting night but a couple clutch 3's...Man this team is fun to watch!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:06 pm    Post subject:

Ingram 4-20
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:43 am    Post subject:

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Ingram 4-20


Besides the boxscore, take a look at the game recap at least
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:05 am    Post subject:

Both Ball & Hart outscored Ingram last night, but Ingram did score 5 points in the last 74 seconds in a 6-point Pelican win, so having an off night was nothing to worry about, happens to everyone...!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:09 pm    Post subject:

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Both Ball & Hart outscored Ingram last night, but Ingram did score 5 points in the last 74 seconds in a 6-point Pelican win, so having an off night was nothing to worry about, happens to everyone...!


It is obvious that he is the go-to guy when they need a bucket because of his ability to create his own shot.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2020 1:28 pm    Post subject:

I am interested to know what he's eating during this long ass break... in New Orleans. Same with Zion.

I wonder if he'll gain that extra 5-10 pounds to help his physique a bit, at least in terms of absorbing contact better. He always seems to come back stronger after longer breaks (see previous all-star breaks), with the exception being the last one since he hurt his ankle and was limited in the all-star game.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:06 pm    Post subject:

I haven't heard anything about BI over the last few weeks from the national media.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:42 pm    Post subject:

With the season resuming soon, Imma hype this kid up as much as possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpAXLhyYTCI
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