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 Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 6:52 am Post subject: UFN-Evans knockout of Salmon |
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Did anyone else watch the Ultimate Fight Night last night and see Rashad's brutal head kick that knocked Sean Salmon out cold? One of the worse I've seen since Crocop in Pride.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Very brutal.... that was a serious kick... he was out before he hit the canvas! Looks like he was having a little/minor seizure when he was out too. I hope he's ok... MMA/Pride/UFC doesn't need that 'kind' of press.
| Quote: | The right-footed kick to the head left Salmon out cold as he toppled to the canvas like a sack of potatoes. Evans added to his pain with a couple of punches to the face before referee Troy Waugh stepped in at 1:06 of the second round.
"I'm pretty satisfied, I'm not satisfied that he's still laying there," Rashad said in the ring after the fight.
Salmon required medical attention and had to be carried from the octagon on a stretcher. His condition was not immediately known, but he was conscious as he left the arena. |
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That was a devastating high kick. Cro Cop's are more technically sound with much more speed and intensity of course since he is a kickboxer, but Evans' was pretty damn good. However, that guy Salmon was severely outmatched and it was a poor decision to set up that fight. Did you guys see how many times Salmon let out big deep breaths multiple times during the fight? He was clearly scared and out of his element there. I felt bad for him even before the knockout. There was an interesting piece written here criticizing the unprofessional manner in which the UFC handled the post-knockout situation.
But that Double Dragon style jump kick he attempted was surreal. I was dying of laughter.
This post I read on the UnderGround Forum at mmatv.com about the Heath Herring/Jake O'Brien fight on the same card cracked me up hard:
"the last time I saw two guys named Jake and Heath lay on top of each other that much it was on Brokeback Mountain"
Brilliant. |
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| Triumph wrote: | That was a devastating high kick. Cro Cop's are more technically sound with much more speed and intensity of course since he is a kickboxer, but Evans' was pretty damn good. However, that guy Salmon was severely outmatched and it was a poor decision to set up that fight. Did you guys see how many times Salmon let out big deep breaths multiple times during the fight? He was clearly scared and out of his element there. I felt bad for him even before the knockout. There was an interesting piece written here criticizing the unprofessional manner in which the UFC handled the post-knockout situation.
But that Double Dragon style jump kick he attempted was surreal. I was dying of laughter.
This post I read on the UnderGround Forum at mmatv.com about the Heath Herring/Jake O'Brien fight on the same card cracked me up hard:
"the last time I saw two guys named Jake and Heath lay on top of each other that much it was on Brokeback Mountain"
Brilliant. |
The Herring fight was disappointing. Herring didn't even try to sprawl to stop the takedowns and he didn't do much standing up. O'Brien is the typical wrestler turned MMA fighter. He's still very green in the octagon and has no submissions. According to Sherdog most of his other wins were by TKO against lesser competition so he wasn't going to knock out Herring so he just took him down and dry humped him to kill time.
Rashad's kick was devastating but he still gets hit cleanly too much. He needs to work on his stand up defense. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: |
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Badass!  |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: |
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| he deserved that knockout after that ballet move.. |
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| Tark the Shark wrote: | | Triumph wrote: | That was a devastating high kick. Cro Cop's are more technically sound with much more speed and intensity of course since he is a kickboxer, but Evans' was pretty damn good. However, that guy Salmon was severely outmatched and it was a poor decision to set up that fight. Did you guys see how many times Salmon let out big deep breaths multiple times during the fight? He was clearly scared and out of his element there. I felt bad for him even before the knockout. There was an interesting piece written here criticizing the unprofessional manner in which the UFC handled the post-knockout situation.
But that Double Dragon style jump kick he attempted was surreal. I was dying of laughter.
This post I read on the UnderGround Forum at mmatv.com about the Heath Herring/Jake O'Brien fight on the same card cracked me up hard:
"the last time I saw two guys named Jake and Heath lay on top of each other that much it was on Brokeback Mountain"
Brilliant. |
The Herring fight was disappointing. Herring didn't even try to sprawl to stop the takedowns and he didn't do much standing up. O'Brien is the typical wrestler turned MMA fighter. He's still very green in the octagon and has no submissions. According to Sherdog most of his other wins were by TKO against lesser competition so he wasn't going to knock out Herring so he just took him down and dry humped him to kill time.
Rashad's kick was devastating but he still gets hit cleanly too much. He needs to work on his stand up defense. |
Supposedly, Herring had torn his mcl going into the fight. That would explain why he couldn't stop a single takedown.
Also, I was not impressed by Rashad at all in this fight. He was losing up until the headkick. And Rashad is supposed to be a contender to Chuck's throne? |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| VindicatioN wrote: |
Also, I was not impressed by Rashad at all in this fight. He was losing up until the headkick. And Rashad is supposed to be a contender to Chuck's throne? |
I thought he played it smart. He let Salmon use up all of his energy while he stayed back. Even before the end of round 1, Salmon was gassed.
I agree that he's not really impressive. But the UFC Light Heavyweight class is weak in general. I think he's above average, considering who the UFC has at that weight catagory. |
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| Muad'Dib wrote: |
Badass! |
That's what I'm saying. I mean, yeah sure, it looked ridiculous. But to try that move during a real MMA fight on national television. You gotta give that guy some props.
I got that .gif from the Sherdog forums. A poster over there started a hilarious tongue in cheek thread titled "Undeniable Proof that PRIDE > UFC" and put that .gif of Salmon's jumpkick (representing UFC) side by side with this one of Shogun doing a leg + head kick combo against Rampage in PRIDE.
Regarding Herring, I was never that impressed with him in PRIDE either. He had success there in the era before they had Noguiera, CroCop, and Fedor. He was never a top caliber fighter. The UFC was right to put his debut on as an undercard on a free event rather than on a PPV like they did with the UFC debuts of CroCop and Rampage. |
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Muad'Dib
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I just watched those fights last night.
Man, Salmon was out of gas by the end of the first. Was Evans giving Salmon too much respect, just looking for his opening, or was Salmon really giving it to him there in the 1st?
Triumph--you weren't kidding about Herring, what is all the commotion about? He made O'brien look like Rulon Gardner or something.
BTW--did you guys watch Couture on Pros v Joes last night? Poor dudes. |
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| Muad'Dib wrote: |
Triumph--you weren't kidding about Herring, what is all the commotion about? |
First of all, he previously fought in PRIDE. Wow, aren't you intrigued?  For some MMA fans, that automatically gives a fighter some mystique. But really, he had success there when Mark Coleman was still one of the best heavyweights. He had one war with "Minotauro" Nogueira, but in a rematch Nog ruined his sh!t. And it's not like the UFC stole him from right under PRIDE like they did with the current Open Weight Grand Prix champion CroCop. Heath hasn't fought there in 2 years. Secondly, the UFC's HW division was the most maligned in the sports' big two organizations (heavy booing during Sylvia's last two title defenses). Dana White knew they needed an infusion of talent, thus he threw down the big bucks for CroCop and purchased Herring's contract from the WFA.
I thought it was funny how Joe Rogan was hyping Herring up big time before the fight started, but when he saw how poorly Heath was doing he did an immediate 180 and started ripping into him.
"Heath can't even get out of that. That's blue belt jiu jitsu stuff."
"Heath is just getting his ass kicked"
But Rogan was right. That is the worst Herring has probably ever looked and that rumored MCL injury may be the reason. But he should've postponed the fight then. He underestimated Jake thinking he could beat him while injured. He shouldn't have taken his UFC debut so lightly.
There's also been a lot of buzz with fans around the fact that Rogan said Nogueira's name several times during that fight when he was commenting on the big names Heath's been in the ring with. And Dana mentioned Nogueira by name when he was talking about CroCop in the Countdown to UFC 67 show on Spike as well. Generally, they never mention "PRIDE" or PRIDE fighters on the air. Could Nog also be coming to the UFC?
| Quote: | | BTW--did you guys watch Couture on Pros v Joes last night? Poor dudes. |
Yeah, there is no way those Joes could've prepared for something like that. Unless you were some superstar wrestler in college you were getting your ass handed to you. And like Couture said on the show, he's not even a submission specialist. He's just so damn strong. Imagine if it were Marcelo Garcia, Jacare, or Roger Gracie instead. 15 taps minimum. |
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