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Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:12 pm Post subject:
unleasHell wrote:
Someone once said: If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns..
(well them and the police...)
Same rules that app to bazookas _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
I am not against drone strikes that go the extra mile to mitigate collateral damages, per se. The problem is we don't know if this is consistent with different administrations.
As for "assault" weapons, I don't have a problem with people owning semi-automatic weapons provided they are registered and the associated magazines have a limited capacity.
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:22 pm Post subject:
I don't see the need to own an assault rifle.
Zone strikes are, for me, subjective. If there are American lives being saved I'm all for them. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:03 am Post subject:
In America, weapons designed for warfare shouldn't be accessible outside of gun ranges.
Don't know enough about warfare in Syria to speak on it.
But in a vacuum, I prefer drones to manned aircrafts. Since there isn't an American piloting the craft and risking their life directly. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:35 am Post subject:
kikanga wrote:
Quote:
In America, weapons designed for warfare shouldn't be accessible outside of gun ranges.
I agree. It was a thought I had when I posted but couldn't quite word it. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:42 am Post subject:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible?
This thread's intent certainly is more provocative rather than productive. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible?
This thread's intent certainly is more provocative rather than productive.
It's a subthread on a subforum on a Lakers fan page - nothing productive happens here.
But to your point, I'm legitimately curious about and morally struggle with the question (which is a false dichotomy, I know, but in a vacuum I find compelling). _________________ Under New Management
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:52 pm Post subject:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible?
This thread's intent certainly is more provocative rather than productive.
It's a subthread on a subforum on a Lakers fan page - nothing productive happens here.
But to your point, I'm legitimately curious about and morally struggle with the question (which is a false dichotomy, I know, but in a vacuum I find compelling).
Valid point. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 5:27 pm Post subject:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible?
Por que no los dos!
Jokes aside. The primary distinction between the two categories you described is mindset. It’s pretty close to circular reasoning. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible?
Por que no los dos!
Jokes aside. The primary distinction between the two categories you described is mindset. It’s pretty close to circular reasoning.
It's a question of where you spend your energy. It's also a question of how much #1 alienates people who could be allies for #2. Still, #1 is awfully seductive. That's American politics in the 21st century in a nutshell.
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Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:47 pm Post subject:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
Is it more important to agitate about things that aren't going to change or to organize to achieve changes that are actually possible?
Por que no los dos!
Jokes aside. The primary distinction between the two categories you described is mindset. It’s pretty close to circular reasoning.
It's a question of where you spend your energy. It's also a question of how much #1 alienates people who could be allies for #2. Still, #1 is awfully seductive. That's American politics in the 21st century in a nutshell.
I could use the same reasoning you’re using right now to defend the indefensible throughout history.
Not only do I reject the notion of simplistically putting grievances into only 2 categories. I reject the merit of even making the categories to begin with. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
I could use the same reasoning you’re using right now to defend the indefensible throughout history.
Not only do I reject the notion of simplistically putting grievances into only 2 categories. I reject the merit of even making the categories to begin with.
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