****-= Official Feb. 22, 2007 Trade Deadline Thread.... "DO IT MITCH" THREAD= -****

parsons777 · Star Player Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 3576

Need to beat Dallas to win this year.

Kwame, McKie, Luke for Carter

Lakers

Kwame Brown
6-11 C from Glynn Academy (HS)
8.7 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.0 apg in 27.5 minutes

Aaron McKie
6-5 SG from Temple
0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 5.0 minutes

Luke Walton
6-8 SF from Arizona
12.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.3 apg in 33.6 minutes

Incoming

Vince Carter
6-6 SG from North Carolina
24.9 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 4.2 apg in 38.7 minutes

Change in team outlook: +4.2 ppg, -5.7 rpg, and -2.1 apg

Nets

Vince Carter
6-6 SG from North Carolina
24.9 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 4.2 apg in 38.7 minutes

Incoming

Kwame Brown
6-11 C from Glynn Academy (HS)
8.7 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 2.0 apg in 27.5 minutes

Aaron McKie
6-5 SG from Temple
0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 5.0 minutes

Luke Walton
6-8 SF from Arizona
12.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 4.3 apg in 33.6 minutes

Change in team outlook: -4.2 ppg, +5.7 rpg, and +2.1 apg.

Realgm # 3611091

New Rotation

Bynum/Turiaf
Odom/Cook
Kobe/VRad/Evans
Vince/Evans/Sasha
Smush/Farmar

Looks like Terry was 5-14 against Vince on 12/5.

We can switch everything 2-4, Vince on Dirk may be tough but we match nicely everywhere else. Vince or Kobe posts up Terry-good luck Terry.

Vince has one year left and so next year is a contract year. LA = big stage he will probably work harder on D. He averages 6 REB and 4.2 AST.

We get smaller but I'd rather start Kobe/Vince over Walton/Kobe.

Ok, tell me I'm dumb and/or that NJ will not do it.

golakersgo121 · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject:

parsons777 · Star Player Joined: 08 Jul 2005 Posts: 3576

I think we need five two-way ( offense-defense ) players to beat the Mavs.

Like Kwame, but he can't score. Like Luke, but he cannot defend.

Also, Kwame Dec 13 against Dallas 30 Min, 4 Reb.

New Jersey has Vince on the block for a big. They will get into the playoffs and get killed. Is Kwame ( expiring contract ) and Luke S&T better trade pieces than Carter? Maybe.

LAL25 · Starting Rotation Joined: 03 Jun 2002 Posts: 885

L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown

Outgoing

Aaron McKie
6-5 SG from Temple
0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 5.0 minutes

Brian Cook
6-9 PF from Illinois
7.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.3 apg in 16.7 minutes

Incoming

Melvin Ely
6-10 PF from Fresno State
2.7 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 9.3 minutes
Change in team outlook: -4.9 ppg, -2.3 rpg, and -0.8 apg.

Charlotte Trade Breakdown
Outgoing

Melvin Ely
6-10 PF from Fresno State
2.7 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 9.3 minutes
Incoming

Aaron McKie
6-5 SG from Temple
0.0 ppg, 0.0 rpg, 0.0 apg in 5.0 minutes

Brian Cook
6-9 PF from Illinois
7.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.3 apg in 16.7 minutes

Tell me that's not a good trade for both teams.

Lakers get a serviceable TRUE PF/C - can't have enough of those, and get rid of McKie. Charlotte gets rid of Ely, who's been in their doghouse, and get a shooting "big man" in return to compliment Okafor's inside presence as well as an expiring contract.

DIM indeed!

Hector the Pup · Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject:

Oooh! Oooh!

Let me try!!!!

Lakers active roster outgoing:

Shammond Williams
Aaron McKie

Lakers active roster incoming:

Lamar Odom
Kwame Brown

Lakers inactive roster outgoing:

Lamar Odom
Kwame Brown

Lakers inactive roster incoming:

Shammond Williams
Aaron McKie

Why the Lakers active roster does this - Odom and Kwame significantly improve interior defense, rebounding, scoring, playmaking.

Why the Lakers inactive roster does this - Shammond and McKie have both had sufficient time to have all of their suits drycleaned and with the addition of some new shirts and other accessories, they should be ready to display new twists on their wardrobes

Trade approved!

KOBEDAONE · Starting Rotation Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 140

damn, lakers lose again to a losing team...trade everyone on this team!!!

vanexelent · Retired Number Joined: 17 May 2005 Posts: 30081

L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Kwame Brown
Vladimir Radmanovic
Aaron McKie
Shammond Williams

Incoming
Malik Rose
Jamal Crawford
David Lee

This trade addresses our biggest needs, in my opinion: rebounding and another scoring option. I know, I know, these things will be taken care of once Lamar is healthy. Great. However, a trade like this would be security if Kobe or Lamar are injured again, as well as make us better when they are both healthy.

Why does New York do this? They rid themselves of two big contracts while acquiring a backup for Curry and Frye. They would just wave McKie and Williams. Kwame's contract only has 1 year on it, so that is better than the 2 left on Rose's and is more sevicable. Vlad can sit outside and shoot 3's in the Knicks offense and won't be yelled at. He would flurish.

Why the Lakers do it. We obviously get a hard-nose, energetic rebounding machine in David Lee and a great PG/SG combo player in Jamal Crawford, that can either start at PG or backup Kobe. He can score and he can pass. Rose's contract is terrible, but the positive attributes of the former two players outweigh his negative.

fansincemagic · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 11103

interesting idea vanexelent, there are some good upsides to this deal. Crawford has triangle experience in Chicago, and could attack the basket. He is a good 2nd scorer, but his shot selection isn't the best. Though he's an upgrade on the offensive side of the ball (in terms of talent), he gives up too much as a poor defender. I like David Lee, but not enough to take on Rose's contract.

The trade is creative, and though Kwame's value isn't high, you can get a better deal even if it is next offseason. If they're looking to extend Smush, Luke and then Turiaf next year, its hard to add a contract like Malik's. I'd rather hold out for dealing Kwame for a combo guard that can defend, and let Vlad get a full year in the offense before they dump him.

vanexelent · Retired Number Joined: 17 May 2005 Posts: 30081

L.A. Lakers Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Kwame Brown
Chris Mihm
Aaron McKie
Shammond Williams
Jordan Farmar

Incoming
Pau Gasol
Brian Cardinal
Damon Stoudamire

Since acquiring Gasol would probably cost us either Bynum or Farmar, I went with Farmar. Again, the contracts we take on are costly and lengthy, but thats something the Buss' worry about.

Putting Gasol along side Kobe, Odom, and Bynum is worth it. That lineup could contend with anyone.

The Grizz dump alot of crappy salaries and they like that if they are trying to rebuild. They get a PG of the future in Farmar, a useful Center(for 1 year) in Kwame, and the Bird Rights to Chris Mihm.

fansincemagic · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 11103

hey that looks good. I hate the idea of getting rid of Farmar, but some people are obsessed with him. I agree he is improving and has a bright future, but Gasol is worth it. I'm guessing you'd have to deal at least a 1st round pick to get this deal done, or (cringe) you may need to deal Luke to a 3rd team for a higher 1st rounder, lets hope not though. The contracts you get back are bad but not horrible, and Buss would have to pay some tax it looks like to keep Smush and Luke.

If something like this was to happen, the rest of the roster would look like this I'd think....

Parker/Mighty Mouse
Bryant/Evans/Vujacic
Odom/Walton/Cardinal
Gasol/Cook or Vlad
Bynum/Turiaf

You'd really be using Gasol as a backup in the middle as well, and likely pickup a street free agent or a center in another move. They would then move either Vlad or Cook to get another guard to protect against Smush leaving, or you could get your true big that way. It would be hard to turn down the idea of having a lineup that potent, even if it means giving up your possible future PG.

The bottom line is the Bulls can put together the best package, and others could as well. If they truly are moving Gasol, you'd at least have to offer a package like this and hope other teams bow out.

lionballer7 · Star Player Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Posts: 1684