Cautious optimism. He did look washed up a bit until a late season resurgence (not sure how much we can look into that).
IMO all the trades, moving around and uncertainty took a toll on AB and his pride.
It easily affected his confidence, attitude and mental approach to the game. Especially the way the Flippers discarded him.
He seems to have finally been able to move on. He appears to be focused and in a better place (physically & mentally).
I expect AB to be a vital piece of this team's success. Glad we have him.
Cautious optimism. He did look washed up a bit until a late season resurgence (not sure how much we can look into that).
IMO all the trades, moving around and uncertainty took a toll on AB and his pride.
It easily affected his confidence, attitude and mental approach to the game. Especially the way the Flippers discarded him.
He seems to have finally been able to move on. He appears to be focused and in a better place (physically & mentally).
I expect AB to be a vital piece of this team's success. Glad we have him.
GO LAKERS!!
Agreed! This guy was 1st team all defense in 15-16 and he's still only 28. At worst he can fill the Fisher role, which was an important role on those championship teams. At best, just look at his last season in Boston, 16ppg/6reb/2.2ast/1.2stl.
If he can get back to any of the all-defensive teams, knock down open 3's, cut without the ball, he'll be one of the steals of free agency.
We need a DOG and our best opportunity comes with Avery Bradley. IF he could provide that defensive attacking mentality while hitting his open shots, he and Danny Green will be a tough back-court to deal with.
Bradley and Cousins will be the X factors.
Bradley can bring both defense and offense.
The problem with the other PGs is they only bring one thing.
Rondo playmaking and bad defense. But great playmaking.
Cook a good shooter. Caruso a fringe NBA player.
The coaching decisions will be a huge factor.
I really think AB is the key to us winning a championship. He is only 28 and has never had a serious injury (although several nagging ones). I am expecting him to be the player he was and it seems like he may have a chip on his shoulder. He is able to provide SOLID perimeter defense (and take 5 seconds off the oppositions shot clock) while having the ability to consistently hit the 3.
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Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 6:50 am Post subject:
PDX_LAKERFAN wrote:
We need a DOG and our best opportunity comes with Avery Bradley. IF he could provide that defensive attacking mentality while hitting his open shots, he and Danny Green will be a tough back-court to deal with.
and they have the #5 shot blocker from last season and the #1 shot blocker from the season prior (didn't play enough game last season to qualify) playing behind them and Lebron just waiting to jump those passing lanes. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant
I really think AB is the key to us winning a championship. He is only 28 and has never had a serious injury (although several nagging ones). I am expecting him to be the player he was and it seems like he may have a chip on his shoulder. He is able to provide SOLID perimeter defense (and take 5 seconds off the oppositions shot clock) while having the ability to consistently hit the 3.
Let's hope his injuries are behind him and he can put up the numbers he had when he played with Boston. Injury is a word the Lakers must stay away from if they are to win a chip.
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Speaking optimistically, I'm hoping AB can fill a sort of hybrid Byron Scott/ Derek Fisher role.
Both Magic and Kobe were ball-dominant guards - yes, they set everybody up and initiated offense for their teams, but they were clearly the alphas in terms of starting the halfcourt offense, whether in Showtime or triangle.
In Showtime, Byron on D handled the smaller/ quicker waterbug guards that Magic couldn't due to his size and relatively slower foot speed. The Pistons gave us such fits in 1988 because Dumars would burn us on switches and Magic would have to play off him, and then by 1990 and 1991 the double-small backcourt of KJ and Hornacek gave us all we could handle.
In 2001-2004, and again in 2007 on, Fisher handled a somewhat similar role in taking on the smaller opposing guards. However, Fish was exposed in Phil's P&R defense schemes, and Kobe back then was still capable of covering the 1-3 spots, so it's not like Fish was forced to cover PGs to cover up any difference in speed for Kobe - often it was the opposite. Fish was solid, and Kobe in those years was relentless, so they just complemented each other well.
I see AB on D falling somewhere in the middle. AB isn't the terrific athlete that Byron was in his prime, but I think his footspeed is better than Fish 2.0 or even Fish in 2001 coming off the broken foot. If anything, I see he and Green forming a better-than-average backcourt on D -- with AB being the PG on D.
And with regard to offense, I honestly see the roles being closer to that of the Shaq-Kobe Lakers - with LBJ in the Kobe role (duh), and with AB and Green serving as Fish and Fox, respectively. Fox was a Swiss Army Knife of a player, but was primarily 3 and D (and some occasional post work) with Shaq. Enter Green. LBJ may be the SF, but in the tri the SG and SF were supposed to be interchangeable in terms of spacing, etc. - it's just Kobe was Kobe, and WAY more of a threat than Fox.
And AB will (hopefully) be what we need - secondary initiator, and 1st-line interceptor on D. If that can translate into 14 and 4 assists a game with efficient numbers and credible threat accuracy from behind the line (say 38% or more on 4-5 att/gm), then we're in good shape.
It would be nice if these articles were accurate (in that whatever caused Bradley to have a horrible time with the Clippers is now over). Healthy Bradley, Cousins, and Green would make the Lakers contenders. _________________ “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
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Great video. Bradley and the Lakers need to work together to keep him healthy. He could be our best perimeter defender especially against smaller guards
It would be nice if these articles were accurate (in that whatever caused Bradley to have a horrible time with the Clippers is now over). Healthy Bradley, Cousins, and Green would make the Lakers contenders.
_________________ “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
Feeling like this needs to be our best lineup. I see alot of people throwing Daniels in there, but Bradley can be a stout defender. Well we need him to be.
One thing good about Vogel, and the staff here with Hollins as well. The defensive side will be valued. Just basic man D will be a priority. I've looked at Vogel's past interviews and teams in Indiana, seems to me he is a big believer of guys being able to hold their own on defense. So perhaps he can help Bradley rediscover that defense he had a few years ago.
Feeling like this needs to be our best lineup. I see alot of people throwing Daniels in there, but Bradley can be a stout defender. Well we need him to be.
There are reports that the Lakers have no plans to play Davis at center for big minutes. That being said I think it possible that lineup above can finish games as Davis can play center for limited minutes.
And note this thing about Davis not wanting to play center isn’t just aboutisnt just because he prefers it, it’s because his risk of injury goes up the more minutes he players at centers
Avery Bradley can really piss off Clippers fans by playing well this season
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In a rivalry to this point defined by passive-aggression, Avery Bradley is one of the few things that get a legitimate rise out of Clippers fans. The Lakers really need him to play well, and frustrate his former fan base in the process.
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 9:51 pm Post subject:
MIMLaker wrote:
Speaking optimistically, I'm hoping AB can fill a sort of hybrid Byron Scott/ Derek Fisher role.
Both Magic and Kobe were ball-dominant guards - yes, they set everybody up and initiated offense for their teams, but they were clearly the alphas in terms of starting the halfcourt offense, whether in Showtime or triangle.
In Showtime, Byron on D handled the smaller/ quicker waterbug guards that Magic couldn't due to his size and relatively slower foot speed. The Pistons gave us such fits in 1988 because Dumars would burn us on switches and Magic would have to play off him, and then by 1990 and 1991 the double-small backcourt of KJ and Hornacek gave us all we could handle.
In 2001-2004, and again in 2007 on, Fisher handled a somewhat similar role in taking on the smaller opposing guards. However, Fish was exposed in Phil's P&R defense schemes, and Kobe back then was still capable of covering the 1-3 spots, so it's not like Fish was forced to cover PGs to cover up any difference in speed for Kobe - often it was the opposite. Fish was solid, and Kobe in those years was relentless, so they just complemented each other well.
I see AB on D falling somewhere in the middle. AB isn't the terrific athlete that Byron was in his prime, but I think his footspeed is better than Fish 2.0 or even Fish in 2001 coming off the broken foot. If anything, I see he and Green forming a better-than-average backcourt on D -- with AB being the PG on D.
And with regard to offense, I honestly see the roles being closer to that of the Shaq-Kobe Lakers - with LBJ in the Kobe role (duh), and with AB and Green serving as Fish and Fox, respectively. Fox was a Swiss Army Knife of a player, but was primarily 3 and D (and some occasional post work) with Shaq. Enter Green. LBJ may be the SF, but in the tri the SG and SF were supposed to be interchangeable in terms of spacing, etc. - it's just Kobe was Kobe, and WAY more of a threat than Fox.
And AB will (hopefully) be what we need - secondary initiator, and 1st-line interceptor on D. If that can translate into 14 and 4 assists a game with efficient numbers and credible threat accuracy from behind the line (say 38% or more on 4-5 att/gm), then we're in good shape.
In addition to all that, it seems like Bradley has the ability to attack with the ball in the open court. Because of that, he could play a significant role in helping us push the pace, and also taking some of that load off Lebron so that we can keep him fresh and maybe even extend his career. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2019 7:25 am Post subject:
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Avery Bradley can really piss off Clippers fans by playing well this season
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In a rivalry to this point defined by passive-aggression, Avery Bradley is one of the few things that get a legitimate rise out of Clippers fans. The Lakers really need him to play well, and frustrate his former fan base in the process.
Bradley not being fat and out of shape is a step in the right direction. Like Crowder, we need to see if they can succeed outside of that Celtic sphere. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Avery Bradley can really piss off Clippers fans by playing well this season
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In a rivalry to this point defined by passive-aggression, Avery Bradley is one of the few things that get a legitimate rise out of Clippers fans. The Lakers really need him to play well, and frustrate his former fan base in the process.
Bradley not being fat and out of shape is a step in the right direction. Like Crowder, we need to see if they can succeed outside of that Celtic sphere.
He has dropped some serious weight and is injury free. Its not like he is coming off serious structural injuries. He is only 28. There is no reason why he can not be that ELITE defender he once was.
people are definitely sleeping on the potential defensive prowess that our likely starting lineup would have:
Bradley
Green
Lebron
AD
Dwight
Lebron gets surrounded by 4 plus defenders and can camp on the weakest wing player.
Opposing tactics of trying to draw the rim protector away from the rim would be hard to pull off as we'd have 2 elite rim protectors in the game.
Plenty of length where everyone is pretty switchable and our bigs wont be a liability on pick and roll defense _________________ (bleep) Kawhi
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