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slavavov Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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If Adams, like Hollins and Vogel himself, is a defensive specialist, when will we hire an assistant who is an offensive specialist?
We won't win anything being outstanding on defense and average on offense. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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slavavov wrote: | If Adams, like Holling and Vogel himself, is a defensive specialist, when will we hire an assistant who is an offensive specialist?
We won't win anything being outstanding on defense and average on offense. |
Maybe they think Kidd is that guy, even though the Bucks were exponentially better without him |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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slavavov wrote: | If Adams, like Hollins and Vogel himself, is a defensive specialist, when will we hire an assistant who is an offensive specialist?
We won't win anything being outstanding on defense and average on offense. |
Vogel is a coach not a rubber stamp, he'll implement the O
and approve the D. _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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JerryWest_44 Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Lakers interested in Ron Adams |
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dino wrote: | https://www.forumblueandgold.com/2019/06/22/lakers-targeting-ron-adams-as-assistant-coach/
that would be the equivalent of getting a max player, imo...
good sign... |
The best defensive assistant coach in the NBA... he mentored under coach Boyd Grant of the famed defensive Fresno St teams on the 80s. This hire would be PHENOMENAL. |
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DancingBarry Editor-in-Chief
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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First name I’d go after anytime I’ve hired a new head coach. Get it done. Godfather offer. |
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jonnybravo Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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slavavov wrote: | If Adams, like Hollins and Vogel himself, is a defensive specialist, when will we hire an assistant who is an offensive specialist?
We won't win anything being outstanding on defense and average on offense. |
We're running the Lebron offense anyways. _________________ KOBE |
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slavavov Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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jonnybravo wrote: | slavavov wrote: | If Adams, like Hollins and Vogel himself, is a defensive specialist, when will we hire an assistant who is an offensive specialist?
We won't win anything being outstanding on defense and average on offense. |
We're running the Lebron offense anyways. |
Running the "Lebron offense" won't get it done. We need an actual offensive system and philosophy.
Imo we need to continue being a running team, as Lebron, AD and Kuz are at their best in transition and early offense. But when we don't have anything, we need sound offensive sets that maximize our players.
As bad as we were defensively the second half of the season, our offensive rating was 24th in the league. We need to be top 6-7 in both offense and defense. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers |
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Day Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure if it was Rob or Frank wanting this but one of the genius aspects of this is that GSW isn't gonna wanna pay a guy when they might be losing KD and won't have Klay. This is the perfect time to try to throw our wallet at this guy and see if GSW matches. |
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Chronicle Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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instead of Ron Adams, let's pursue Ron Burgundy _________________ Kobe |
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pio2u Retired Number
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:38 am Post subject: |
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calistrtballr wrote: | With zo gone, why is Kidd still highest paid assistant? |
Kidd got traded to Pelicans. We get Gentry.
It was an unreported "coach swap"
Pelicans exercised that right.
I think they also included a team nickname swap as well.
We're now the LA Pelicans and they are the NO Lakers. |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Make an offer he can't refuse and he's ours. Do it, Rob. _________________ Playoffs is good enough. - Jeanie Buss 2024 |
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JeezyXVII Star Player
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lakersfever714 wrote: | Make an offer he can't refuse and he's ours. Do it, Rob. |
This is what makes the Kidd hire so questionable at the price they did.
Lonzo’s gone, BI’s gone, we hired Hollins, and now if we get Adams... what is Kidd’s purpose ?
We couldve made Adams the highest paid assistant to entice him to come to the Lakers |
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Annihilator Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Do the Lakers have a shooting coach yet? _________________ “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:31 am Post subject: |
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JeezyXVII wrote: | lakersfever714 wrote: | Make an offer he can't refuse and he's ours. Do it, Rob. |
This is what makes the Kidd hire so questionable at the price they did.
Lonzo’s gone, BI’s gone, we hired Hollins, and now if we get Adams... what is Kidd’s purpose ?
We couldve made Adams the highest paid assistant to entice him to come to the Lakers |
Only speculating but rumors were Kidd and Lebron have a good relationship so his hiring may have been a compromise for not hiring TLue. Since it appears the Lakers had their eyes on the AD trade the whole time, Kidd's hiring may have never been about Zo. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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Staccatos Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:23 am Post subject: |
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | calistrtballr wrote: | With zo gone, why is Kidd still highest paid assistant? |
Kidd got traded to Pelicans. We get Gentry.
It was an unreported "coach swap"
Pelicans exercised that right.
I think they also included a team nickname swap as well.
We're now the LA Pelicans and they are the NO Lakers. |
This explains Gentry's recent quote in response to AD's "That's all folks" t-shirt, when Gentry said "That's a haul folks" |
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japanesebeef1 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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I love Luke, but this (if true) points out a weakness of his. My perception is that his assistants were for the most part inexperienced compared to other staffs. A strong staff makes a good head coach a great head coach. Adams would be good, experienced, and knows how to keep settled. I'd love to see this move. |
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JerryWest_44 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Staccatos wrote: | LongBeachPoly wrote: | calistrtballr wrote: | With zo gone, why is Kidd still highest paid assistant? |
Kidd got traded to Pelicans. We get Gentry.
It was an unreported "coach swap"
Pelicans exercised that right.
I think they also included a team nickname swap as well.
We're now the LA Pelicans and they are the NO Lakers. |
This explains Gentry's recent quote in response to AD's "That's all folks" t-shirt, when Gentry said "That's a haul folks" |
well what do u expect ... The Pels lost their franchise top 5 player so they have to put out a narrative which puts them in their best light. |
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japanesebeef1 Star Player
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Chronicle wrote: | instead of Ron Adams, let's pursue Ron Burgundy |
Stay classy, friend! |
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Bishop* Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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People don't seem to understand what Pelinka is doing. The basketball personel decisions will be made by the coaches so you need all the best you can get in the room to make that right decision. |
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PartyMan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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Bishop* wrote: | People don't seem to understand what Pelinka is doing. The basketball personel decisions will be made by the coaches so you need all the best you can get in the room to make that right decision. |
_________________ We pour this booze and we drink this booze because we think it's yummy. YUMMY! So over the tounge and down the throat to party in our tummys.
DOWN THE HOLA BITC*OLA!!! |
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Ziggy wrote: | slavavov wrote: | If Adams, like Holling and Vogel himself, is a defensive specialist, when will we hire an assistant who is an offensive specialist?
We won't win anything being outstanding on defense and average on offense. |
Maybe they think Kidd is that guy, even though the Bucks were exponentially better without him |
Our offense should be as simple as possible.
Let AD set screens up high for LBJ. LBJ goes to work. Have three shooters spot up. AD can spot up, roll to the basket. Options. Then switch it up with Kuzma setting up AD up high to go to work. LBJ comes into the set off the ball. Kuzma tries to get to the basket off the ball. AD is the focal point here. Third basic set up is a Lebron 1-4 ISO. Offense is so easy right now in the NBA if you have talent. Do not complicate it. Get shooters and allow LBJ and AD to go work with Kuzma helping in. We need AD and Lebron to set good examples and set screens for shooters off the ball. It is so simple really if you have the talent.
What we need badly are defenders and for LBJ to get back on track defensively. We need versatility on D. We need good planning and schemes. Luke never got it together on either end at a consistent level.
Right now in the NBA if you have two superstars like AD and LBJ, good shooters around them, and you play unselfish ball, you will be fantastic on offense. I am not worried about O if we get the shooters and play like a team. Typically Lebron does play unselfish. He does well with players that can finish his passes. We need to stockpile on players that like to finish plays. Last year made many mistakes with Rondo, Beasley, Lance. Not the guys that work with LBJ. |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Annihilator wrote: | Do the Lakers have a shooting coach yet? |
I think they hired lethal shooter _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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dino Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2019 11:43 am Post subject: |
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dino wrote: | https://twitter.com/JohnnyNBA/status/1143233106595524610?s=09 |
Nice |
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