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Bol
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| I was puzzled by this trade, but I guess I kind of get it. You already have Mo as a young center to develop, whose shooting and speed make him a better fit. Seems like there are going to be buyout options (not Melo) who can help the team more than zu down the stretch. And getting rid of Beasley is a positive. I'll miss Zu, but hey, at least his games will be on local TV. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| malcolm wrote: | The Lakers do . . . not . . . want . . . Carmelo Anthony.
Trust me.
I spent 3 years following the Knicks (because of the Triangle).
Carmelo Anthony was the mother of all cancers . . . |
If LeBron wants Carmelo thats what the Lakers will do.
LeGM strikes again.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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After watching Muscala highlights, he is actually a great pick up as a back up 4.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Do you think we will see Zu's father Larry go on a tirade on the radio? |
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Bol
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Ziggy wrote: | | Do you think we will see Zu's father Larry go on a tirade on the radio? |
Hope so. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Is this on Lebron aswell? like everything else according to some. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Lonzo/Rondo
Bullocks
Lebron
Kuzma/ Muscala
Mcgee/Chandler
spreads the floor pretty well
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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CBS Sports gives Clippers B+ and Lakers C- for Zubac trade.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker7 wrote: | CBS Sports gives Clippers B+ and Lakers C- for Zubac trade.
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That's fair.
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@_Lakers_4_Life
Ivica Zubac last 9 games:
23 minutes
14 points
7 rebounds
1 assist
1 block
59% fg
85% ft
21 years [expletive] old
And we just gave him away for some reject named Mike Muscala
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Yeah look, we probably lost this trade, but Muscala will be nice giving backup minutes at PF and C. Gives us shooting too, hopefully he can shoot at a higher percentage than he has been. Apparently a solid defender, also
Rondo/Stephenson (Ball)
Bullock/KCP
Ingram/Hart
LeBron/Kuzma/Muscala
McGee/Chandler
I think a Melo or Kanter signing is next, we already have a lot of wings so we won't sign Ellington. Anyway, I think we'll keep persisting with the Rondo/Ingram/Bron/Kuzma/McGee lineup, with KCP or Hart falling out of the rotation
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| alleyoop wrote: | Yeah look, we probably lost this trade, but Muscala will be nice giving backup minutes at PF and C. Gives us shooting too, hopefully he can shoot at a higher percentage than he has been. Apparently a solid defender, also
Rondo/Stephenson
Bullock/KCP
Ingram/Hart
LeBron/Muscala
McGee/Chandler
I think a Melo or Kanter signing is next, we already have a lot of wings so we won't sign Ellington |
Where is Kuzma? |
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| TMG wrote: | | Is this on Lebron aswell? like everything else according to some. |
Agenda pushers. |
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| Mini Mamba wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Yeah look, we probably lost this trade, but Muscala will be nice giving backup minutes at PF and C. Gives us shooting too, hopefully he can shoot at a higher percentage than he has been. Apparently a solid defender, also
Rondo/Stephenson
Bullock/KCP
Ingram/Hart
LeBron/Muscala
McGee/Chandler
I think a Melo or Kanter signing is next, we already have a lot of wings so we won't sign Ellington |
Where is Kuzma? |
Lol forgot about him, edited |
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| PhiberOptik wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | methodman wrote: | | I really hope this was to make room for DeAndre Jordan once he gets bought out. Not Carmelo. |
Hmm. Might be our best FT shooter. The irony. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Lakers traded their best free throw shooter |
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| Runway8 wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Not sure why this deal was made..
I think Magic and Pelinka are in way over their heads.
Would have been better off with Kupchak minus Jim Buss of course.
Mitch made great deals, other than Moz and Deng which were Jimbo deals.
I don't think Magic has much of a clue, and Pelinka is a former agent with zero FO experience.
Recipe for disaster.... |
The only reason those deals became an issue was because Maginka wanted to be free agent players. Mitch decided to punt free agency after being turned down summer after summer. Those deals weren't going to get in the way of the kids. All kids would be here today including Russell and Randle. By the time those 4 yrs are up for Deng and Moz, our kids would have grown. Maybe show promise like the Lake Show Lakers of the 90's, and then we attract someone like AD in '20 when Deng and Moz goes off the books. I had no issues with the path we were taking.
Jeannie Buss impatient. |
Agreed! Magic has to realize he got us the OLDbron not the King. No matter how great the player is, it can not fight against time..... Just looked at MJ at wizards, Shaq. KG, Kobe......
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Heyvoon24 wrote: | | Lakers traded their best free throw shooter |
He was making the other guys feel bad. |
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| misterchipmunk wrote: | Zu was one of the big reasons we were winning games the last few weeks and Magic and Pelinka sold him short
We need to clean house after this season
New front office, GM, coach, and most of the roster |
I agree, but why stop there? New ownership is really needed. |
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| HermosaJoe wrote: | | misterchipmunk wrote: | Zu was one of the big reasons we were winning games the last few weeks and Magic and Pelinka sold him short
We need to clean house after this season
New front office, GM, coach, and most of the roster |
I agree, but why stop there? New ownership is really needed. |
The real GM or LeGM?
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Great One wrote: | Lonzo/Rondo
Bullocks
Lebron
Kuzma/ Muscala
Mcgee/Chandler
spreads the floor pretty well |
You forgot Ingram. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Muscala is garbage and can't play defense. Wonderful move. |
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| Outspoken wrote: | | Great One wrote: | Lonzo/Rondo
Bullocks
Lebron
Kuzma/ Muscala
Mcgee/Chandler
spreads the floor pretty well |
You forgot Ingram. |
was speaking in context of floor spacing and 3 point shooting. Ingram and Lebron on the same time doesn't accomplish that.
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| LakerLogic wrote: | | Muscala is garbage and can't play defense. Wonderful move. |
Besides that.... I read in this thread alone about 25x that he's a "shooter".
For goodness sake, he's shooting the 3 at a lower clip than the league average. That makes him a below average shooter!
It's like every freaking person that calls Kuzma a good shooter. He's not! And neither is Muscala. Just because you take them doesn't make you a good shooter!
I'm all for trading young assets for good shooters, but Muscala isn't one of them! At last check, the league average shoots the 3 at 36%, he shoots it at 34%! This team actually needs PRODUCTION from the 3, they don't need someone to take them and make them at below average rates!!!!
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| Runway8 wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Not sure why this deal was made..
I think Magic and Pelinka are in way over their heads.
Would have been better off with Kupchak minus Jim Buss of course.
Mitch made great deals, other than Moz and Deng which were Jimbo deals.
I don't think Magic has much of a clue, and Pelinka is a former agent with zero FO experience.
Recipe for disaster.... |
The only reason those deals became an issue was because Maginka wanted to be free agent players. Mitch decided to punt free agency after being turned down summer after summer. Those deals weren't going to get in the way of the kids. All kids would be here today including Russell and Randle. By the time those 4 yrs are up for Deng and Moz, our kids would have grown. Maybe show promise like the Lake Show Lakers of the 90's, and then we attract someone like AD in '20 when Deng and Moz goes off the books. I had no issues with the path we were taking.
Jeannie Buss impatient. |
The fact that people keep trying to make an artificial division between Jim and Mitch is hilarious. They seemed to work well together and always made decisions cohesively or at least it seemed.
Mitch/Jim turned out to be good trades and drafting. They were not good at Free Agency, even though Lou was a really nice pick up. There is nothing to say but the fact that Lou/Moz were bad signings.
However, I agree, in their big picture it didnt matter. They were punting on Free Agency for a few years to concentrate on developing the young guys (while still keeping a max spot)
I think there was always a big division in the Organization. Wonky Substance (West/Mitch/Jim/etc.) vs. Style (Jeanie/Magic/Media/Showtime Cartel).
Dr. Buss was able to bridge these two aspects.
Looking back its clear that the impetus to sign Big Free Agents was always coming from the Style people. After years of feeling pressure to sign Free Agents, the F.O. signed Moz/Deng almost to tie up the money and get the Style people off their back.
Despite being bad in Free Agency, the old Front Office slowly built and cultivated assets. Ever since they left, it is all about getting big names and creating a splash.
As a result, we are now spending the assets that we had slowly earned and saved like a drunk guy at a casino.
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