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justsomelakerfan Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2018 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty cool that he came in and hit some shots today without getting much extended burn in the NBA. There’s likely a few picks we whiffed on later in the draft but still interested in what we have in Moe. Zubac shouldn’t play another second. _________________ Austin Reaves
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leking006 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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Can they just try using him at PF spot for the 2nd unit instead of Luke's favorite 4 guard combination. He's getting a hard time defending centers but i think he can defend the 4. And he's a pretty good knockdown shooter. |
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pio2u Retired Number
Joined: 26 Dec 2012 Posts: 54701
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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leking006 wrote: | Can they just try using him at PF spot for the 2nd unit instead of Luke's favorite 4 guard combination. He's getting a hard time defending centers but i think he can defend the 4. And he's a pretty good knockdown shooter. |
Wagner at 4 and Zubac at the 5? Depending if Chandler is still going to be starting if McGee isn't back. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 7948 Location: Lake Forest
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Definite SMALL ball center right now. SF's still push him out of position, but he's mobile enough to get around the true big men for some paint action and he's in there to be on the Perimeter on offense. |
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Yellow Starting Rotation
Joined: 31 Oct 2018 Posts: 265
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 4:43 am Post subject: |
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I was impressed by his foot speed running the court. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Mo will probably see some action tonight. |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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What was the scouting report of Mo’s defense back in college? _________________ |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Nash Vegas wrote: | What was the scouting report of Mo’s defense back in college? | awful
Quote: | Not a great rim protector and not really athletic or quick enough to defend the 4 either ... May be neutralized to merely a stretch big at the next level ... Average rebounder for a 6'11" guy ... Does not project to offer a lot of versatility at the next level besides being a big guy who can shoot and occasionally score inside .. |
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/moritz-wagner |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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pio2u wrote: | Nash Vegas wrote: | What was the scouting report of Mo’s defense back in college? | awful
Quote: | Not a great rim protector and not really athletic or quick enough to defend the 4 either ... May be neutralized to merely a stretch big at the next level ... Average rebounder for a 6'11" guy ... Does not project to offer a lot of versatility at the next level besides being a big guy who can shoot and occasionally score inside .. |
https://www.nbadraft.net/players/moritz-wagner |
It shows. _________________ |
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Yellow Starting Rotation
Joined: 31 Oct 2018 Posts: 265
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:14 am Post subject: |
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I'll withhold judgement on Wagner until next season. I didn't like the pick when it was made, but the fit with LeBron makes sense. Channing Frye was a wretched defender and couldn't put the ball on the floor, but he was still a positive impact player.
Will Wagner put on mass? That's the question pertinent to his potential for growth. |
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LaxT Star Player
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:37 am Post subject: |
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The scheme matters. The Lakers have a true center in their offensive and defensive scheme. That's why the team struggled when McGee sat and why it flourished when Chandler was added. That's also why Zu can step in and produce right away.
If you want to see what Wagner can do as a center, you may need to change the scheme for him. I am more interested in what he can do as a PF. |
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lakerican Star Player
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 5:10 am Post subject: |
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Meh, he is pushed even by combo guards. Why do you think Luke use that 4 guard lineup in the first quarter? @ least if we had drafted LShamet like Mike [ at ] lg wanted, we would had a 3pt shooter. |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 7:03 am Post subject: |
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He isn't ready to play in the NBA yet. Terrible game. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:06 am Post subject: |
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SmartBaller420 wrote: | TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | Here's hoping he's ready to contribute to the NBA squad in a couple months! |
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I posted this 2 months ago. Several posters thought I was being pessimistic, so I was curious to see where Mo stood around Christmas. I was actually kinda hoping they saw something I didn't.
So here we are. Sorry but this kid's a long ways off. Even I was too optimistic.
Josh Hart is stronger ffs. Brandon Ingram clearly isn't, but somehow BI plays stronger. Hit the weight room Mo. We could use a big with range, what we have now is a 6'11" wing. |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
Joined: 16 Apr 2001 Posts: 11591 Location: Stay Thirsty my Friends
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:37 am Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: | He isn't ready to play in the NBA yet. Terrible game. |
EXACTLY, he needs to build experience in the G league! _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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lakersboy Star Player
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 11:13 am Post subject: |
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justsomelakerfan wrote: | Pretty cool that he came in and hit some shots today without getting much extended burn in the NBA. There’s likely a few picks we whiffed on later in the draft but still interested in what we have in Moe. Zubac shouldn’t play another second | Care to rethink that? Starting center Zubac left the Memphis game with leads that were quickly surrendered when Mo came in. |
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cthroatgtr Star Player
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Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2018 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Send Mo to the D-league. Didn't like the pick at the time and still don't. |
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AirTupac Star Player
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:53 am Post subject: |
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Mo's gonna have 1 good game 6months from now and everyones gonna be like "Our draft team did it again!!" |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 6:59 am Post subject: |
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AirTupac wrote: | Mo's gonna have 1 good game 6months from now and everyones gonna be like "Our draft team did it again!!" | |
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deal Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Mo needs to play PF, he does not have what it takes on D to play
C every day; IMO. _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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MJST Retired Number
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Laker_Jocker Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Good minutes tonight especially spacing and communicating.... More Wagner at PF less McGee might be a good idea.. |
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Luminous8 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:08 am Post subject: |
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I actually think he could end up as good of a scorer as Kuz. You simply can’t overlook this guys footwork, ball handling and shooting. I was very pissed we didn’t take Robinson instead (still salty) but Mo is provin to me that he was an equally great choice.
That spin move last night from the corner, even though he didn’t make the shot (can’t remember I think he tried to pass actually) was an absolute thing of beauty. This kid gon be problem. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Luminous8 wrote: | I actually think he could end up as good of a scorer as Kuz. You simply can’t overlook this guys footwork, ball handling and shooting. I was very pissed we didn’t take Robinson instead (still salty) but Mo is provin to me that he was an equally great choice.
That spin move last night from the corner, even though he didn’t make the shot (can’t remember I think he tried to pass actually) was an absolute thing of beauty. This kid gon be problem. |
Nice footwork.
Great hands on defense.
Pretty decent vision.
Hoping for a young KLove. |
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