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Lakesh0wtime Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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if we trade KCP.
Do we have enough salary fillers alongside BI and Lonzo to trade for AD? |
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chantruong Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Lakesh0wtime wrote: | if we trade KCP.
Do we have enough salary fillers alongside BI and Lonzo to trade for AD? |
Yes
Lonzo
BI
Lance
Beasley
is enough (hypothetically) |
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Outspoken Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Lakesh0wtime wrote: | if we trade KCP.
Do we have enough salary fillers alongside BI and Lonzo to trade for AD? |
We are not trading for Anthony Davis, at least this year. I don't know about next year. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Any chance we can get Ariza + Troy Daniels? Daniels has turned into a 3pt sharpshooter.
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ibitegirls Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | are we sure that Ariza > KCP at this point |
KCP = 6'5
Ariza = 6'8
Ariza also appears to be a better rebounder and play-maker |
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RI Laker Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | are we sure that Ariza > KCP at this point |
I'm not. Plus, as someone previously mentioned, we can resign KCP after we finish all our moves next year. |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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I don't really like the idea of making our 3 point shooting even worse tbh _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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Lakesh0wtime Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Outspoken wrote: | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | if we trade KCP.
Do we have enough salary fillers alongside BI and Lonzo to trade for AD? |
We are not trading for Anthony Davis, at least this year. I don't know about next year. |
nice thanks Rob/Magic |
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Joe Pesci Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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RI Laker wrote: | PHILosophize wrote: | are we sure that Ariza > KCP at this point |
I'm not. Plus, as someone previously mentioned, we can resign KCP after we finish all our moves next year. |
False. _________________ A creative scorer, a wing defender, and a shooter. |
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The Juggernaut Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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ibitegirls wrote: | PHILosophize wrote: | are we sure that Ariza > KCP at this point |
KCP = 6'5
Ariza = 6'8
Ariza also appears to be a better rebounder and play-maker |
Ariza is a better player. Better defender, better rebounder, playmaker, and has heavy clutch playoff experience. |
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AllorNothing Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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The Juggernaut wrote: | ibitegirls wrote: | PHILosophize wrote: | are we sure that Ariza > KCP at this point |
KCP = 6'5
Ariza = 6'8
Ariza also appears to be a better rebounder and play-maker |
Ariza is a better player. Better defender, better rebounder, playmaker, and has heavy clutch playoff experience. |
Wasn't he 0-7 from 3 pt. Game 7 against gsw.? |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | I don't really like the idea of making our 3 point shooting even worse tbh |
Ariza is a good 3pt shooter that skill decreased this year cause the Suns lack playmakers to find him a open look, if he comes here he’s gonna become a 39-40% 3pt shooter.
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DancingBarry Editor-in-Chief
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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where24happens wrote: | Why? KCP been playing great lately and he’s like our only good free throw shooter |
Arisen shot 85% from the line last year and is 81% this year, so he’d take over the role fair enough. |
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Megaton Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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I’m really excited if and when this can get done. Ariza is very much needed. KCP if he’s involved is very inconsistent so I’m not shedding any tears if he goes.
But I guess we’ll see. Ariza is the backup 3 and D wing we need badly. A Laker champion, home in LA, would get to play with Lebron while winning a chip with Kobe earlier in his career...that’s crazy. _________________ Darvin Scam: https://media.tenor.com/images/3c15249955860a4b16b59e8ae035fb75/tenor.gif |
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Surfitall Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Man, just when KCP has started producing for us. Maybe that’s the point. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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PHILosophize wrote: | are we sure that Ariza > KCP at this point |
Yes. More positional defensive versatility. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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RI Laker wrote: | PHILosophize wrote: | are we sure that Ariza > KCP at this point |
I'm not. Plus, as someone previously mentioned, we can resign KCP after we finish all our moves next year. |
No we can’t. His cap hold would eat the max space. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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The Juggernaut Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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AllorNothing wrote: | The Juggernaut wrote: | ibitegirls wrote: | PHILosophize wrote: | are we sure that Ariza > KCP at this point |
KCP = 6'5
Ariza = 6'8
Ariza also appears to be a better rebounder and play-maker |
Ariza is a better player. Better defender, better rebounder, playmaker, and has heavy clutch playoff experience. |
Wasn't he 0-7 from 3 pt. Game 7 against gsw.? |
Probably. HOU entire team was OFF that game. Ariza's had countless clutch moments in big moments of the playoffs for Houston, Wizards, and especially for us in 09. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Surfitall wrote: | Man, just when KCP has started producing for us. Maybe that’s the point. |
I’m thinking he wants to reestablish his value and right now he’s stuck behind others. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | PHILosophize wrote: | are we sure that Ariza > KCP at this point |
Yes. More positional defensive versatility. |
don't we need three point shooting more than that, though? at least when tiny dog gets back _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Surfitall wrote: | Man, just when KCP has started producing for us. Maybe that’s the point. |
I’m thinking he wants to reestablish his value and right now he’s stuck behind others. |
yeah that's an interesting possible angle to this
maybe we're actually doing KCP/his agent a favor by dealing him _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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chantruong Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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I am excited about potentially getting Ariza but dam couldn't we do this closer to December 15. KCP could be sat out the next 4 games |
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RI Laker Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Ariza is a shell of himself. Don't get caught up in the nostalgia of it. He can not shoot. I would rather keep KCP who is a better shooter and is starting to turn the corner. |
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scoobs Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Why do they even care if they have a play making Pg at this point? They in tanking mode no? I think it will end up being KCP and a 2nd round pick for Ariza. We could always expand the trade and make it Rondo/KCP for Ariza/Daniels or something like that. Ingram could be utilized as the full time back up PG. We end up with nothing but shooters at the wings. |
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Lakesh0wtime Star Player
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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scoobs wrote: | Why do they even care if they have a play making Pg at this point? They in tanking mode no? I think it will end up being KCP and a 2nd round pick for Ariza. We could always expand the trade and make it Rondo/KCP for Ariza/Daniels or something like that. Ingram could be utilized as the full time back up PG. We end up with nothing but shooters at the wings. |
suns gonna sunsssss. lol |
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