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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:18 am Post subject: |
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yeah this is a problem _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 8:11 am Post subject: |
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It's very obvious.
He's still injured.
For whatever reason the motion of lifting that shooting shoulder up is painful for him and there’s something keeping him from having that full range of motion in his shoulder.
It could be a rotator cuff or some nerve damage(which is why the tick), but he realistically needs surgery and a whole year off to rehab & truly heal that shoulder.
He’s clearly and obviously avoiding a shoulder injury or rather avoiding trying to use his shoulder correctly.
The 76ers should be smarter than this, and be able to cite that he is NOT 100%, there is definite damage in that shoulder he is trying to play around. It's "meme worthy" but the more they ignore saving him from himself, the bigger the risk for him to permanently damage his shoulder.
They need to shut him down, send him to an actual doctor to check for nerve damage or rotator cuff injury, and get him the surgery he needs.
The more they ignore this the worse it will get and Fultz could wind up with permanent damage in that shoulder. The more I watch Philly allow him to 'attempt' to play through this, the more pissed and disappointed in that organization I get. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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ocho Retired Number
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:24 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: |
It's very obvious.
He's still injured.
For whatever reason the motion of lifting that shooting shoulder up is painful for him and there’s something keeping him from having that full range of motion in his shoulder.
It could be a rotator cuff or some nerve damage(which is why the tick), but he realistically needs surgery and a whole year off to rehab & truly heal that shoulder.
He’s clearly and obviously avoiding a shoulder injury or rather avoiding trying to use his shoulder correctly.
The 76ers should be smarter than this, and be able to cite that he is NOT 100%, there is definite damage in that shoulder he is trying to play around. It's "meme worthy" but the more they ignore saving him from himself, the bigger the risk for him to permanently damage his shoulder.
They need to shut him down, send him to an actual doctor to check for nerve damage or rotator cuff injury, and get him the surgery he needs.
The more they ignore this the worse it will get and Fultz could wind up with permanent damage in that shoulder. The more I watch Philly allow him to 'attempt' to play through this, the more pissed and disappointed in that organization I get. |
It's hard to believe it's just about protecting his shoulder when you see him make plays like this:
https://youtu.be/tLSeCvRqimg?t=21
That was a week ago.
Good video of the evolution of Fultz's jumpshot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GAcA0F2qvw _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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LakerLogic Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:29 am Post subject: |
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His mind is injured. Harder to fix that. |
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saetarubia Star Player
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:12 am Post subject: |
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76ers' Markelle Fultz out until he sees shoulder specialist next week
Quote: | Philadelphia 76ers point guard Markelle Fultz will be out until he sees a shoulder specialist early next week, Fultz's agent, Raymond Brothers, told ESPN. |
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Speculation that Fultz may have gotten in some kind of motorcycle accident? Oh man. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:14 am Post subject: |
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if true Fultz found a new elite skill for the NBA... how to telepathically cause groupies to miscarriage their lottery ticket babies _________________ (bleep) Kawhi |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:19 am Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | 76ers' Markelle Fultz out until he sees shoulder specialist next week
Quote: | Philadelphia 76ers point guard Markelle Fultz will be out until he sees a shoulder specialist early next week, Fultz's agent, Raymond Brothers, told ESPN. |
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About darn time. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Can he get a new arm like the Winter Soldier? Or is that prohibited by the CBA? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:27 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | adkindo wrote: | 76ers' Markelle Fultz out until he sees shoulder specialist next week
Quote: | Philadelphia 76ers point guard Markelle Fultz will be out until he sees a shoulder specialist early next week, Fultz's agent, Raymond Brothers, told ESPN. |
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About darn time. |
If the agent has to dictate to the team that his player isn't physically able to practice or play you know it's going to come back on the team. He saw a shoulder specialist last year and that's where that no apparent injury but "scapular imbalance" diagnosis that confused it even more came from. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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LuciusAllen Star Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:45 am Post subject: |
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My brother was recently diagnosed with "frozen shoulder." I laughed at first - sounded like some medieval diagnosis. But it's a real thing. It's basically untreatable, but will resolve itself in 1-3 years.
Not saying he has this, but there certainly could be something wrong with his shoulder that they just cannot fix. |
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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numero-ocho wrote: | MJST wrote: | adkindo wrote: | 76ers' Markelle Fultz out until he sees shoulder specialist next week
Quote: | Philadelphia 76ers point guard Markelle Fultz will be out until he sees a shoulder specialist early next week, Fultz's agent, Raymond Brothers, told ESPN. |
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About darn time. |
If the agent has to dictate to the team that his player isn't physically able to practice or play you know it's going to come back on the team. He saw a shoulder specialist last year and that's where that no apparent injury but "scapular imbalance" diagnosis that confused it even more came from. |
Imagine if the shoulder specialist finds a torn cuff, or some kind of nerve damage.
How would that make the 76ers medical staff that "cleared him 100%" look.... particularly as the narrative has been that it's "all in his head"....
Ooh that would NOT look good... it would be another case of an NBA team trying to pressure someone to play through injury when they put their health first.
Not a good precedent. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | numero-ocho wrote: | MJST wrote: | adkindo wrote: | 76ers' Markelle Fultz out until he sees shoulder specialist next week
Quote: | Philadelphia 76ers point guard Markelle Fultz will be out until he sees a shoulder specialist early next week, Fultz's agent, Raymond Brothers, told ESPN. |
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About darn time. |
If the agent has to dictate to the team that his player isn't physically able to practice or play you know it's going to come back on the team. He saw a shoulder specialist last year and that's where that no apparent injury but "scapular imbalance" diagnosis that confused it even more came from. |
Imagine if the shoulder specialist finds a torn cuff, or some kind of nerve damage.
How would that make the 76ers medical staff that "cleared him 100%" look.... particularly as the narrative has been that it's "all in his head"....
Ooh that would NOT look good... it would be another case of an NBA team trying to pressure someone to play through injury when they put their health first.
Not a good precedent. |
When you think about how cautious they've been with Embiid, Simmons, Fultz, and Zhaire Smith it would be really surprising to me if that were the case. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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numero-ocho wrote: | MJST wrote: | numero-ocho wrote: | MJST wrote: | adkindo wrote: | 76ers' Markelle Fultz out until he sees shoulder specialist next week
Quote: | Philadelphia 76ers point guard Markelle Fultz will be out until he sees a shoulder specialist early next week, Fultz's agent, Raymond Brothers, told ESPN. |
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About darn time. |
If the agent has to dictate to the team that his player isn't physically able to practice or play you know it's going to come back on the team. He saw a shoulder specialist last year and that's where that no apparent injury but "scapular imbalance" diagnosis that confused it even more came from. |
Imagine if the shoulder specialist finds a torn cuff, or some kind of nerve damage.
How would that make the 76ers medical staff that "cleared him 100%" look.... particularly as the narrative has been that it's "all in his head"....
Ooh that would NOT look good... it would be another case of an NBA team trying to pressure someone to play through injury when they put their health first.
Not a good precedent. |
When you think about how cautious they've been with Embiid, Simmons, Fultz, and Zhaire Smith it would be really surprising to me if that were the case. |
it may turn out that way.
It also may start to unearth more franchises that do this, if people want to bring up Kawhi's situation with the Spurs. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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socalsp3 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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maybe fultz is sulking because he got benched for mcconnell |
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Curious. Is this the reason Fultz parted way with Drew Hanlen? When I read about injuries like this Grant Hill comes to mind. Did Fultz come back early on his on accord or was he ASKED TO?
Markelle Fultz Has Not Recovered Completely From Last Season’s Shoulder Injury, Says Shooting Coach
LINK _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | Curious. Is this the reason Fultz parted way with Drew Hanlen? When I read about injuries like this Grant Hill comes to mind. Did Fultz come back early on his on accord or was he ASKED TO?
Markelle Fultz Has Not Recovered Completely From Last Season’s Shoulder Injury, Says Shooting Coach
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Hanlen got fired cause he let the cat out of the bag, after having to fake that Fultz was 100% healthy during the off-season. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | The Markelle Fultz saga took another turn Wednesday.
The Athletic's Jared Weiss, Derek Bodner and Sam Amick reported the Philadelphia 76ers point guard has been playing with a wrist injury. According to the report, Fultz "would prefer a fresh start with a new team" as well. |
_________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Philadelphia is a injury hole. Embid, Simmons now Fultz. If I were #1 pick and Phily chose me I'd be scaaaaard.
Report: Markelle Fultz Suffering From Apparent Wrist Injury
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Quote: | Fultz is suffering from an apparent injury in his right wrist area, which has affected his ability to shoot or hold the ball at times, per The Athletic.
The website also reported that sources said Fultz "would prefer a fresh start with a new team." However, Fultz's agent, Raymond Brothers, told ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski Wednesday night that he has "given no indication" to anyone that Fultz wants to be traded. |
_________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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This dude clearly needs a change of scenery. |
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Hahahahahaha!!!!
Can you........IMAGINE if he had somehow landed in LA? (Shudders)
With the way ESPN Loves to hate on the Lakers??
C’mon _________________ True definition of SIN: “A Shrewd, Revolting, Offensive and Aggressive ATTACK....resulting in a fit of SICKNESS.” |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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