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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:03 am Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | saetarubia wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | Isn't this the "Free agency and trade thread" Why are people crying about players that belong to other teams? |
Julius will be a free agent next summer. |
He has a player option, don’t think he has any plans to leave the Pelicans as he and AD can turn into a very nice duo. |
Depends on the offers he gets. He's on 9 M a season. He'd easily decline the player option if he gets 12 M+ for example. |
Which team with cap space next summer will give him what he wants? If I was him I would stay with the Pelicans, assuming there are whispers that AD is gonna stay there, they will be a good team year after year, unless he just wants to cash in with whoever offers him money. |
He may not be happy with a 6th man role.
The most he can get from the Pels in a new deal is starting at 10.8m (120% of his 9m deal) as a non-Bird FA.
He can probably get 11-12m on the market which is more than what the Pels likely have to offer. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:08 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | saetarubia wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | Isn't this the "Free agency and trade thread" Why are people crying about players that belong to other teams? |
Julius will be a free agent next summer. |
He has a player option, don’t think he has any plans to leave the Pelicans as he and AD can turn into a very nice duo. |
Depends on the offers he gets. He's on 9 M a season. He'd easily decline the player option if he gets 12 M+ for example. |
Which team with cap space next summer will give him what he wants? If I was him I would stay with the Pelicans, assuming there are whispers that AD is gonna stay there, they will be a good team year after year, unless he just wants to cash in with whoever offers him money. |
He may not be happy with a 6th man role.
The most he can get from the Pels in a new deal is starting at 10.8m (120% of his 9m deal) as a non-Bird FA.
He can probably get 11-12m on the market which is more than what the Pels likely have to offer. |
If he proves to produce consistently he will end up starting |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | saetarubia wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | Isn't this the "Free agency and trade thread" Why are people crying about players that belong to other teams? |
Julius will be a free agent next summer. |
He has a player option, don’t think he has any plans to leave the Pelicans as he and AD can turn into a very nice duo. |
Depends on the offers he gets. He's on 9 M a season. He'd easily decline the player option if he gets 12 M+ for example. |
Which team with cap space next summer will give him what he wants? If I was him I would stay with the Pelicans, assuming there are whispers that AD is gonna stay there, they will be a good team year after year, unless he just wants to cash in with whoever offers him money. |
He may not be happy with a 6th man role.
The most he can get from the Pels in a new deal is starting at 10.8m (120% of his 9m deal) as a non-Bird FA.
He can probably get 11-12m on the market which is more than what the Pels likely have to offer. |
If he proves to produce consistently he will end up starting |
If he starts he will want more $ which the Pels can't give.
Mirotic, they have his Bird rights, and his 3 point shooting gives AD a ton of space so I'd imagine they will priotize him over a possible 1 year Jules rental. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:12 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | saetarubia wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | Isn't this the "Free agency and trade thread" Why are people crying about players that belong to other teams? |
Julius will be a free agent next summer. |
He has a player option, don’t think he has any plans to leave the Pelicans as he and AD can turn into a very nice duo. |
Depends on the offers he gets. He's on 9 M a season. He'd easily decline the player option if he gets 12 M+ for example. |
Which team with cap space next summer will give him what he wants? If I was him I would stay with the Pelicans, assuming there are whispers that AD is gonna stay there, they will be a good team year after year, unless he just wants to cash in with whoever offers him money. |
He may not be happy with a 6th man role.
The most he can get from the Pels in a new deal is starting at 10.8m (120% of his 9m deal) as a non-Bird FA.
He can probably get 11-12m on the market which is more than what the Pels likely have to offer. |
The only thing I could see is if he has a *wink wink* deal from the Pels in 2020 when they have his early Bird rights, but that's a lot of risk for a guy who already lost a season due to injury and to bet on Davis being in New Orleans long-term. _________________ Under New Management |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Which teams with cap space can offer him a nice contract next summer assuming his agent doesn’t screw him? |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | saetarubia wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | noahp45 wrote: | Isn't this the "Free agency and trade thread" Why are people crying about players that belong to other teams? |
Julius will be a free agent next summer. |
He has a player option, don’t think he has any plans to leave the Pelicans as he and AD can turn into a very nice duo. |
Depends on the offers he gets. He's on 9 M a season. He'd easily decline the player option if he gets 12 M+ for example. |
Which team with cap space next summer will give him what he wants? If I was him I would stay with the Pelicans, assuming there are whispers that AD is gonna stay there, they will be a good team year after year, unless he just wants to cash in with whoever offers him money. |
He may not be happy with a 6th man role.
The most he can get from the Pels in a new deal is starting at 10.8m (120% of his 9m deal) as a non-Bird FA.
He can probably get 11-12m on the market which is more than what the Pels likely have to offer. |
The only thing I could see is if he has a *wink wink* deal from the Pels in 2020 when they have his early Bird rights, but that's a lot of risk for a guy who already lost a season due to injury and to bet on Davis being in New Orleans long-term. |
Honestly, I can't see that. Jules is playing for his next big contract and punting that another year (after missing most of his rookie year) is probably not a great idea. Early Bird is 175% of previous salary? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:24 am Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Which teams with cap space can offer him a nice contract next summer assuming his agent doesn’t screw him? |
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2019/ _________________ Under New Management |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:27 am Post subject: |
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | LakerSD wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | The year-long competition between Paul George's buyer's remorse and scorned Lakers fans' schadenfreude will be epically pathetic. |
Well. He still gets what, $130m?
I think the final laugh will be his. |
And he became buddies with Nas, which I'm jealous of. |
Both sides need to move on. Having said that, imo the Lakers ditched PG13 as much as he ditched them. It’s pretty obvious to me that Lebron changed the whole dynamic. PG13 wanted LA, but suddenly he didn’t? I think Lebron and company have a master plan and it didn’t involve PG13.
Things, as the kids like to say today, are always fluid.
So in conclusion:
PG13 STFU and Lakers fans STFU
It’s done. Time for a new dance partner for both... |
If LeBron changed the whole dynamic that's pretty weird. Our no. 1 target all along was LeBron and we were the favorites to land him. |
It was initially PG13, then Lebron talk started.
Around the time Vegas had the Lakers as odds on favorite to get Lebron, the Kawhi, Chris Paul rumors began. Now it’s AD, KD, Lillard...
I would put my money on the Lakers getting someone better than PG13 before next season begins. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Which teams with cap space can offer him a nice contract next summer assuming his agent doesn’t screw him? |
https://www.spotrac.com/nba/cap/2019/ |
Spurs and Pacers seem like a good destination for him if he leaves NO. |
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Lonzo-Lite Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Woj report today sounds more and more like Clippers are the destination that Kwahi may consider leaving Toronto for. Jimmy Butler too, Clippers may get them both next season.
http://apple.co/2vm1oF0 _________________ Tacos |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Lonzo-Lite wrote: | Woj report today sounds more and more like Clippers are the destination that Kwahi may consider leaving Toronto for. Jimmy Butler too, Clippers may get them both next season.
http://apple.co/2vm1oF0 |
Fine. Bring us KD then. Or even Klay. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Lonzo-Lite wrote: | Woj report today sounds more and more like Clippers are the destination that Kwahi may consider leaving Toronto for. Jimmy Butler too, Clippers may get them both next season.
http://apple.co/2vm1oF0 |
That might be the word now but things can change as the year plays out, Paul George was seen as a guy who was bound to come but didn’t, I don’t trust anything that comes right now regarding FA next summer. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:25 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Lonzo-Lite wrote: | Woj report today sounds more and more like Clippers are the destination that Kwahi may consider leaving Toronto for. Jimmy Butler too, Clippers may get them both next season.
http://apple.co/2vm1oF0 |
Fine. Bring us KD then. Or even Klay. |
Klay's 2019 whereabouts seem as firm as anyone's, and I can't imagine GS lets him leave if Durant walks. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:30 am Post subject: |
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pjiddy wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Lonzo-Lite wrote: | Woj report today sounds more and more like Clippers are the destination that Kwahi may consider leaving Toronto for. Jimmy Butler too, Clippers may get them both next season.
http://apple.co/2vm1oF0 |
Fine. Bring us KD then. Or even Klay. |
Klay's 2019 whereabouts seem as firm as anyone's, and I can't imagine GS lets him leave if Durant walks. |
Bear in mind, this time last year, many folks ridiculed the notion that LBJ was coming here and many (including me) thought PG13 was a shoe in.
Fluidity is the name of the FA game. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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KingKobe20 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:31 am Post subject: |
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I was slightly disappointed when PG-13 turned us down and re-upped in OKC. Not shocked but definitely disappointed. I had this gut feeling since mid season that he developed a real bond with Russ and that our chances where slipping.
With all that said once he resigned and had that Nas concert and all that jazz I instantly got over him. An I felt this way even before Lebron signed I was already. TBH I was all in for Demarcus or Deandre Jordan thinking they would be able to help lift up our young bucks (wasn’t at all confident in landing LAbron)
For PG13 to report today he would of been a Laker is just really pissing me off. Just shut the hell up and rot in OKC. I feel like he is just trolling us at this point _________________ "Tryin' to get that Kobe number, One Over Jordan"
-Kanye
aka ILLWiLL20
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The Lebrons Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:43 am Post subject: |
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Good to see PG13 keeps talking about how he was hurt we didn't trade for him. Enjoy OKC bud. |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:48 am Post subject: |
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Nikola Vucevic is nicely driving his price down for the Lakers. _________________ Under New Management |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:50 am Post subject: |
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The Lebrons wrote: | Good to see PG13 keeps talking about how he was hurt we didn't trade for him. Enjoy OKC bud. |
This is just terrible PR from him for a terribly run PR campaign this summer.
He made his choice. Live with it. Stop reminding us how much he wanted to be here when that choice was his to make and he chose WB/meth capital of the world. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Nikola Vucevic is nicely driving his price down for the Lakers. |
Would not mind picking him up. |
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RG73 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Lonzo-Lite wrote: | Woj report today sounds more and more like Clippers are the destination that Kwahi may consider leaving Toronto for. Jimmy Butler too, Clippers may get them both next season.
http://apple.co/2vm1oF0 |
It is a little premature to speculate 1 game into the season. So much can happen between now and then and we're talking about two guys who haven't exactly demonstrated a great deal of emotional stability. This won't stop Woj from click baiting everyone all season long with innuendo and hearsay. |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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PlantedTanks wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Nikola Vucevic is nicely driving his price down for the Lakers. |
Would not mind picking him up. |
Better then Lopez, we should have gotten him instead. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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RG73 wrote: | Lonzo-Lite wrote: | Woj report today sounds more and more like Clippers are the destination that Kwahi may consider leaving Toronto for. Jimmy Butler too, Clippers may get them both next season.
http://apple.co/2vm1oF0 |
It is a little premature to speculate 1 game into the season. So much can happen between now and then and we're talking about two guys who haven't exactly demonstrated a great deal of emotional stability. This won't stop Woj from click baiting everyone all season long with innuendo and hearsay. |
Woj’s credibility on FAs went down the tube after he fooled us with George coming here for more then a year. |
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PlantedTanks Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | PlantedTanks wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Nikola Vucevic is nicely driving his price down for the Lakers. |
Would not mind picking him up. |
Better then Lopez, we should have gotten him instead. |
I believe he is better. |
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Vanquish Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Lonzo-Lite wrote: | Woj report today sounds more and more like Clippers are the destination that Kwahi may consider leaving Toronto for. Jimmy Butler too, Clippers may get them both next season.
http://apple.co/2vm1oF0 |
Kawhi I can see going to the clippers because he wants to be the man.
Butler, on the other hand wants to win. My guess is teaming up with Lebron James makes it easier for him to win, even if the Clippers get Kawhi. With all due respect to Kawhi, Lebron is simply the better player.
ETA: Got to wait till the regular season to start but Ingram has been impressing me in pre-season. If his trajectory continues, this could be his break out year and that would give us our 3rd star in addition to Lebron + 2nd max FA |
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Vanquish wrote: | Lonzo-Lite wrote: | Woj report today sounds more and more like Clippers are the destination that Kwahi may consider leaving Toronto for. Jimmy Butler too, Clippers may get them both next season.
http://apple.co/2vm1oF0 |
Kawhi I can see going to the clippers because he wants to be the man.
Butler, on the other hand wants to win. My guess is teaming up with Lebron James makes it easier for him to win, even if the Clippers get Kawhi. With all due respect to Kawhi, Lebron is simply the better player.
ETA: Got to wait till the regular season to start but Ingram has been impressing me in pre-season. If his trajectory continues, this could be his break out year and that would give us our 3rd star in addition to Lebron + 2nd max FA |
Butler wants to get paid, winning is not top priority |
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