Nancy Pelosi said today that if they win the House, the first thing they are going to do is get Trump's taxes. She said it's a very easy thing to do.
BUT NO ONE KNOWS THAT BECAUSE KANYE AND KID ROCK VISITED WHITE HOUSE TODAY AND THE MEDIA COVERED IT LIKE A STATE VISIT FROM THE QUEEN.
I know because I follow her on Twitter. But how do you get a message out in the crazy Trump 24/7 news cycle that features 10 crazy things per day?
Just because they ask for his tax returns does not mean they will get them.
Ask those GOP house guys that want all the incriminating evidence on the deep state and they cannot get it even though they are in the same party. They will be going back and forth forever with each party using the event to get their base excited. In the end it will be a waste of time but it will take over the news cycle.
Period Two: The real deep state
If the Justice Department, including the FBI, or Mueller, asks for Trump's tax returns, they'll get them.
It is easy to get incriminating evidence on the deep state: just looe at the Trump cabal, both regarding his business cons and his corrupt appointments, and the financiers of such. Also, there is the last four SCOTUS appointments, all Federalist thinking deep state clones. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
Joined: 23 Jul 2004 Posts: 12898 Location: Los Angeles
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:48 am Post subject:
LakerSanity wrote:
oldlakerfan wrote:
I don't think anyone is taking the ambulance chasing porn lawyer very seriously but if I was a democrat I sure would like to get this guy off the stage. Imagine if he runs for president and gets on the debate stage.
I don't think anyone is taking the reality tv star, porn actress sexing, often bankrupt "businessman" very seriously but if I was a republican I sure would like to get this guy off the stage. Imagine if he runs for president and gets on the debate stage
People can say what they will about Avenetti - he's one of few people out here who has any kind of real grasp on what kind of enemy we're facing. Sometimes in life, you have to take the low road. And EVERYBODY needs SOMEBODY in their corner willing to take the low road. _________________ So glad we gave you your flowers while you were here, Kobe.
Michael Avenatti offers to fight Donald Trump Jr for charity
One of the reasons I wasn't wild about the idea people were floating around about him running in 2020.
very damaging to the democrats if he decides to run. It's fun watching him call junior a Buttercup, and even the offer to fight sounds entertaining, but if he decides to run for presidency, it will backfire.
I don't think anyone is taking the ambulance chasing porn lawyer very seriously but if I was a democrat I sure would like to get this guy off the stage. Imagine if he runs for president and gets on the debate stage.
Period Three: Thou shall not commit adultery
I do think that Trump and Cohen are taking the adulterer and chief's lover's lawyer quite seriously. Trump is fighting hard not to be deposed.
If he gets on the stage, unlike the lowlife con you selected, he won't be there long. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 11:59 am Post subject:
RE-POST LAST PAGE WAS STRETCHED.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:33 pm Post subject:
I got my vote by mail ballot today in the mail. It's changed. No longer one card you mark a put into a envelope. There are 3) pack ballots.The have propositions, state measures, judicial and school appointments and other measures. I'm in the process of reading and talking to friends and people of knowledge so I can make the best choices. Got straitened out on a proposition by a member of this forum. Thanks buddy. I'm voting I beg all in the forum to PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GET OUT AND VOTE!!!
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Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
Your prayers are always answered. Sometimes the answer is NO. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
I don't think he'd let them (and I'm not sure the US let this happen? Not sure on the details tbh). But if it happened under his administration, I really don't think anything would change. He might be more vocal in his anger, but behind the scenes business would run as usual.
Not to turn this into an Obama v Trump argument, but I'm just saying even though Trump is a moron, he basically says out loud what is really going to happen behind the scenes, regardless of who is president. That's how I see it, I may be wrong but I don't think I am.
In an interview with the Atlantic published last month, Obama referred to Saudi Arabia and other Gulf countries as “free riders” unwilling to secure chaotic zones like Libya, angering many in the kingdom.
No single act was more significant than the signing of the Iran deal, which lifted international sanctions in exchange for limits on Tehran’s ability to build a nuclear weapon.
At its heart, the stress comes down to two different interpretations of which presents the greater threat: Iran or extremist groups such as al Qaeda and the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria. Saudi Arabia has made clear that its priority is on countering Iran, leaving the U.S. out to dry in some of the terrorist fights.
Saudi Arabia sees the Iran nuclear deal as something that will only embolden Tehran and, perhaps more importantly, interpreted its signing as proof that Washington was looking beyond Riyadh to position itself in the Middle East.
Trump used Saudi Arabia as distraction in the midst of a bad news cycle earlier this year. It was very awkward.
Obama did not have a hard time criticizing the Saudis but Iran who commits far worse atrocities regularly was given a free pass and a bunch of money.
Period Four: Let's find some country of "others*" to wage a new war
Iran was not given a free pass nor a bunch of money.
*That would be not as in old, white, mostly male, and Christian _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
@adkindo You posted polls. They're nothing but a a guess. I look at them and in some cases hope they come to frution. In others I hope they're wrong. LINK Remember Hilary was a sure thing against Trump.
The polls have not been very accurate. Best guess is that GOP picks up 1-3 seats in the senate as Democrats have a lot more seats up for grabs.
The House looks close I can find reports that go either way. GOP will probably lose seats but who keeps the majority looks to be in question and lose to a toss up. .
Period 5: Throw out your Wingnut Gazette
The polls have been extremely accurate, with the averaging by reputable sites to be within, to well within, the margins of error.
I'm sure you can find all the reports you want from the Wingnut Gazette, that will tell you what you want to hear, but 538, a math and logic driven site with a very commendable track record, predicts 230 - 205. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 52666 Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 7:17 pm Post subject:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
hot for teacher tbqh
Doesn't hurt he shares a name with my favorite piece of meat. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90307 Location: Formerly Known As 24
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 9:28 pm Post subject:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
hot for teacher tbqh
Doesn't hurt he shares a name with my favorite piece of meat.
His name is Richard?
I’ll show myself out... _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Personal business interests over national security...I'd vote for that...I'm an idiot republican
I feel a hard hitting 'Kavanaugh type' investigation coming up...??? Watch out ladies someones getting the blame so it's between you and Obama...I know Jared's crush MBS is safe
Joined: 15 May 2001 Posts: 2146 Location: Tega Cay, South Carolina
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 9:56 am Post subject:
hoopschick29 wrote:
LakerSanity wrote:
oldlakerfan wrote:
I don't think anyone is taking the ambulance chasing porn lawyer very seriously but if I was a democrat I sure would like to get this guy off the stage. Imagine if he runs for president and gets on the debate stage.
I don't think anyone is taking the reality tv star, porn actress sexing, often bankrupt "businessman" very seriously but if I was a republican I sure would like to get this guy off the stage. Imagine if he runs for president and gets on the debate stage
People can say what they will about Avenetti - he's one of few people out here who has any kind of real grasp on what kind of enemy we're facing. Sometimes in life, you have to take the low road. And EVERYBODY needs SOMEBODY in their corner willing to take the low road.
It seems like the mob bosses are are already on the low road but Avenetti would be a step down. GOP will has never deployed the low road Saul Alinsky tactics of the left. Heck the GOP is only now learning how to fight back.
Michael Avenatti offers to fight Donald Trump Jr for charity
One of the reasons I wasn't wild about the idea people were floating around about him running in 2020.
very damaging to the democrats if he decides to run. It's fun watching him call junior a Buttercup, and even the offer to fight sounds entertaining, but if he decides to run for presidency, it will backfire.
Trump cheated on his wife 10 years ago. While that is bad it doesn't come close to Clinton who raped women and had sex with an intern while in office
I don't think anyone is taking the ambulance chasing porn lawyer very seriously but if I was a democrat I sure would like to get this guy off the stage. Imagine if he runs for president and gets on the debate stage.
Period Three: Thou shall not commit adultery
I do think that Trump and Cohen are taking the adulterer and chief's lover's lawyer quite seriously. Trump is fighting hard not to be deposed.
If he gets on the stage, unlike the lowlife con you selected, he won't be there long.
Joined: 15 May 2001 Posts: 2146 Location: Tega Cay, South Carolina
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:01 am Post subject:
ribeye wrote:
oldlakerfan wrote:
jodeke wrote:
@adkindo You posted polls. They're nothing but a a guess. I look at them and in some cases hope they come to frution. In others I hope they're wrong. LINK Remember Hilary was a sure thing against Trump.
The polls have not been very accurate. Best guess is that GOP picks up 1-3 seats in the senate as Democrats have a lot more seats up for grabs.
The House looks close I can find reports that go either way. GOP will probably lose seats but who keeps the majority looks to be in question and lose to a toss up. .
Period 5: Throw out your Wingnut Gazette
The polls have been extremely accurate, with the averaging by reputable sites to be within, to well within, the margins of error.
I'm sure you can find all the reports you want from the Wingnut Gazette, that will tell you what you want to hear, but 538, a math and logic driven site with a very commendable track record, predicts 230 - 205.
Oh yea the polls have been right on. That is why they said there was no path to the presidency for Trump and he won in an electoral college landslide. Tell me about accuracy of the polls.
Joined: 15 May 2001 Posts: 2146 Location: Tega Cay, South Carolina
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:01 am Post subject:
ribeye wrote:
oldlakerfan wrote:
jodeke wrote:
@adkindo You posted polls. They're nothing but a a guess. I look at them and in some cases hope they come to frution. In others I hope they're wrong. LINK Remember Hilary was a sure thing against Trump.
The polls have not been very accurate. Best guess is that GOP picks up 1-3 seats in the senate as Democrats have a lot more seats up for grabs.
The House looks close I can find reports that go either way. GOP will probably lose seats but who keeps the majority looks to be in question and lose to a toss up. .
Period 5: Throw out your Wingnut Gazette
The polls have been extremely accurate, with the averaging by reputable sites to be within, to well within, the margins of error.
I'm sure you can find all the reports you want from the Wingnut Gazette, that will tell you what you want to hear, but 538, a math and logic driven site with a very commendable track record, predicts 230 - 205.
Oh yea the polls have been right on. That is why they said there was no path to the presidency for Trump and he won in an electoral college landslide. Tell me about accuracy of the polls.
Joined: 09 Jul 2010 Posts: 7844 Location: Orange County
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:44 am Post subject:
oldlakerfan wrote:
ribeye wrote:
oldlakerfan wrote:
jodeke wrote:
@adkindo You posted polls. They're nothing but a a guess. I look at them and in some cases hope they come to frution. In others I hope they're wrong. LINK Remember Hilary was a sure thing against Trump.
The polls have not been very accurate. Best guess is that GOP picks up 1-3 seats in the senate as Democrats have a lot more seats up for grabs.
The House looks close I can find reports that go either way. GOP will probably lose seats but who keeps the majority looks to be in question and lose to a toss up. .
Period 5: Throw out your Wingnut Gazette
The polls have been extremely accurate, with the averaging by reputable sites to be within, to well within, the margins of error.
I'm sure you can find all the reports you want from the Wingnut Gazette, that will tell you what you want to hear, but 538, a math and logic driven site with a very commendable track record, predicts 230 - 205.
Oh yea the polls have been right on. That is why they said there was no path to the presidency for Trump and he won in an electoral college landslide. Tell me about accuracy of the polls.
He literally just explained to you in the post that you're replying to. Must be terrifying to continue to exist in a fast changing world you don't like. Keep yelling at clouds and hiding from non-existent threats. _________________ Don't let perfect be the enemy of good
@adkindo You posted polls. They're nothing but a a guess. I look at them and in some cases hope they come to frution. In others I hope they're wrong. LINK Remember Hilary was a sure thing against Trump.
The polls have not been very accurate. Best guess is that GOP picks up 1-3 seats in the senate as Democrats have a lot more seats up for grabs.
The House looks close I can find reports that go either way. GOP will probably lose seats but who keeps the majority looks to be in question and lose to a toss up. .
Period 5: Throw out your Wingnut Gazette
The polls have been extremely accurate, with the averaging by reputable sites to be within, to well within, the margins of error.
I'm sure you can find all the reports you want from the Wingnut Gazette, that will tell you what you want to hear, but 538, a math and logic driven site with a very commendable track record, predicts 230 - 205.
Oh yea the polls have been right on. That is why they said there was no path to the presidency for Trump and he won in an electoral college landslide. Tell me about accuracy of the polls.
Period one: The meaning of words
First, as to what no means, as in the context of "no path." That would be none, not a single one, it can't be done, no way Jose. As such, please provide who said there was no path to victory.
A landslide victory in politics is any election in which the victor wins by an overwhelming margin. If I were to leave it at that, we'd be fighting over what overwhelming means, so I'll use the following, as, a) it was the first hit with specifics as to a landslide, with a lead-in picture of St. Reagan, aka Mr. Iran/Contra); b) It did not appear to have bias; and c) It makes sense (no, we're not going to fight over what making sense means either): https://www.thoughtco.com/definition-of-a-landslide-election-3367585
Quote:
One generally agreed upon measure of a landslide election is when the winning candidate beats his opponent or opponents by at least 15 percentage points in a popular vote count. Under that scenario a landslide would occur when the winning candidate in a two-way election receives 58 percent of the vote, leaving his opponent with 42 percent.
Quote:
Again, there is no legal or constitutional definition of a landslide in a presidential election. But political journalists have offered their own suggested guidelines for determining a landslide victory over the years. One generally agreed upon definition of an Electoral College landslide is a presidential election in which the winning candidate secures at least 375 or 70 percent of the electoral votes.
Since you appear to have the inability to understand this subject to such extent that you can offer substantive insight, allow me to post an article by the centrist The Hill https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/campaign/315145-one-last-look-2016-polls-actually-got-a-lot-right
One last look: 2016 polls actually got a lot right
Quote:
National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result.
_________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
I don't think anyone is taking the ambulance chasing porn lawyer very seriously but if I was a democrat I sure would like to get this guy off the stage. Imagine if he runs for president and gets on the debate stage.
I don't think anyone is taking the reality tv star, porn actress sexing, often bankrupt "businessman" very seriously but if I was a republican I sure would like to get this guy off the stage. Imagine if he runs for president and gets on the debate stage
People can say what they will about Avenetti - he's one of few people out here who has any kind of real grasp on what kind of enemy we're facing. Sometimes in life, you have to take the low road. And EVERYBODY needs SOMEBODY in their corner willing to take the low road.
It seems like the mob bosses are are already on the low road but Avenetti would be a step down. GOP will has never deployed the low road Saul Alinsky tactics of the left. Heck the GOP is only now learning how to fight back.
Period two: Elementary PoliSci
The mob boss would be Trump, stirring up his single-digits to Lock her* up and to Lock her** up, and to Lock her*** up.
Never? Please re-read lesson one. Ever hear of Lee Atwater? Ever hear of the Southern Strategy?
Only learning to fight? The GOP has been cheating and lying and obfuscating since I have been an adult****. Garland, Nixon, Reagan and now Trump. If I must, I can provide enough examples for a year of classwork.
*Hillary
**Pelosi
***Feinstein
****Every Republican president has had at least one scandal or grave impropriety: Nixon, Watergate and working with South Vietnan (before he was elected) to prolong the war; Ford, pardoned Nixon, never allowing for closure; Reagan, Iran/Contra, five scandals in one; Bush the 1st, a knowing participant of Iran/Contra who lied about his knowledge; Bush the 2nd, took a surplus and created the largest deficit ever, presided over the financial collapse, and he, and his Bushettes, lied us into a war that is possibly the worst foreign policy decision in my lifetime, if not ever. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
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@adkindo You posted polls. They're nothing but a a guess. I look at them and in some cases hope they come to frution. In others I hope they're wrong. LINK Remember Hilary was a sure thing against Trump.
The polls have not been very accurate. Best guess is that GOP picks up 1-3 seats in the senate as Democrats have a lot more seats up for grabs.
The House looks close I can find reports that go either way. GOP will probably lose seats but who keeps the majority looks to be in question and lose to a toss up. .
Period 5: Throw out your Wingnut Gazette
The polls have been extremely accurate, with the averaging by reputable sites to be within, to well within, the margins of error.
I'm sure you can find all the reports you want from the Wingnut Gazette, that will tell you what you want to hear, but 538, a math and logic driven site with a very commendable track record, predicts 230 - 205.
Oh yea the polls have been right on. That is why they said there was no path to the presidency for Trump and he won in an electoral college landslide. Tell me about accuracy of the polls.
Period one: The meaning of words
First, as to what no means, as in the context of "no path." That would be none, not a single one, it can't be done, no way Jose. As such, please provide who said there was no path to victory.
A landslide victory in politics is any election in which the victor wins by an overwhelming margin. If I were to leave it at that, we'd be fighting over what overwhelming means, so I'll use the following, as, a) it was the first hit with specifics as to a landslide, with a lead-in picture of St. Reagan, aka Mr. Iran/Contra); b) It did not appear to have bias; and c) It makes sense (no, we're not going to fight over what making sense means either): https://www.thoughtco.com/definition-of-a-landslide-election-3367585
Quote:
One generally agreed upon measure of a landslide election is when the winning candidate beats his opponent or opponents by at least 15 percentage points in a popular vote count. Under that scenario a landslide would occur when the winning candidate in a two-way election receives 58 percent of the vote, leaving his opponent with 42 percent.
Quote:
Again, there is no legal or constitutional definition of a landslide in a presidential election. But political journalists have offered their own suggested guidelines for determining a landslide victory over the years. One generally agreed upon definition of an Electoral College landslide is a presidential election in which the winning candidate secures at least 375 or 70 percent of the electoral votes.
Since you appear to have the inability to understand this subject to such extent that you can offer substantive insight, allow me to post an article by the centrist The Hill https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/campaign/315145-one-last-look-2016-polls-actually-got-a-lot-right
One last look: 2016 polls actually got a lot right
Quote:
National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result.
My favorite is when they cite Rasmussen's approval polls because they've convinced themselves that Rasmussen was the only one that got it right in 2016, while the other polls were wrong. But, in the thing we call reality, Rasmussen predicted a Hillary popular vote victory, as did everyone else. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid!
@adkindo You posted polls. They're nothing but a a guess. I look at them and in some cases hope they come to frution. In others I hope they're wrong. LINK Remember Hilary was a sure thing against Trump.
The polls have not been very accurate. Best guess is that GOP picks up 1-3 seats in the senate as Democrats have a lot more seats up for grabs.
The House looks close I can find reports that go either way. GOP will probably lose seats but who keeps the majority looks to be in question and lose to a toss up. .
Period 5: Throw out your Wingnut Gazette
The polls have been extremely accurate, with the averaging by reputable sites to be within, to well within, the margins of error.
I'm sure you can find all the reports you want from the Wingnut Gazette, that will tell you what you want to hear, but 538, a math and logic driven site with a very commendable track record, predicts 230 - 205.
Oh yea the polls have been right on. That is why they said there was no path to the presidency for Trump and he won in an electoral college landslide. Tell me about accuracy of the polls.
Period one: The meaning of words
First, as to what no means, as in the context of "no path." That would be none, not a single one, it can't be done, no way Jose. As such, please provide who said there was no path to victory.
A landslide victory in politics is any election in which the victor wins by an overwhelming margin. If I were to leave it at that, we'd be fighting over what overwhelming means, so I'll use the following, as, a) it was the first hit with specifics as to a landslide, with a lead-in picture of St. Reagan, aka Mr. Iran/Contra); b) It did not appear to have bias; and c) It makes sense (no, we're not going to fight over what making sense means either): https://www.thoughtco.com/definition-of-a-landslide-election-3367585
Quote:
One generally agreed upon measure of a landslide election is when the winning candidate beats his opponent or opponents by at least 15 percentage points in a popular vote count. Under that scenario a landslide would occur when the winning candidate in a two-way election receives 58 percent of the vote, leaving his opponent with 42 percent.
Quote:
Again, there is no legal or constitutional definition of a landslide in a presidential election. But political journalists have offered their own suggested guidelines for determining a landslide victory over the years. One generally agreed upon definition of an Electoral College landslide is a presidential election in which the winning candidate secures at least 375 or 70 percent of the electoral votes.
Since you appear to have the inability to understand this subject to such extent that you can offer substantive insight, allow me to post an article by the centrist The Hill https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/campaign/315145-one-last-look-2016-polls-actually-got-a-lot-right
One last look: 2016 polls actually got a lot right
Quote:
National polls only measure the popular vote. Clinton did, in fact, win the national popular vote by 2.1 points. The average of the 13 final national polls had Clinton ahead by 3.1 points, which was only a point off the actual result.
My favorite is when they cite Rasmussen's approval polls because they've convinced themselves that Rasmussen was the only one that got it right in 2016, while the other polls were wrong. But, in the thing we call reality, Rasmussen predicted a Hillary popular vote victory, as did everyone else.
I have always regarded Rasmussen as acting oddly, if not suspiciously. Here is one example. On Nov 2 they had it 44-44 as they did on Nov 4. On Nov 5 they had it 45 - 42 Trump. This was the pattern for Rasmussen through the election, but oddly on the last day, they had it 45 - 43 Clinton. So, just as all the other polls were moving slightly in Trump's favor, Rasmussen moved in Hillary's favor. Just freeking odd. Maybe they didn't have a party-line with Trump and Putin. (For the young'ens, a party-line was a phone line that had to be shared between or among households.) _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
October 11, 2018 - O'Rourke Stalls 9 Points Down In Texas Senate Race, Quinnipiac University Poll Finds; Republican Up 20 Points In Governor's Race
O'Rourke leads 84 - 10 percent among black voters and 61 - 37 percent among Hispanic voters. White voters back Cruz 69 - 30 percent.
Men back Sen. Cruz 62 - 37 percent as women tip to O'Rourke 52 - 46 percent.
It sounds funny to say because I think he's going to lose, but Beto is a real talent. I like him better than any of the prospective 2020 Democrats. _________________ 14-5-3-12
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