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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Justwar wrote: | JoJo Dancer wrote: | BigTimeLAFan wrote: | JoJo Dancer wrote: | C.J. Leslie 10.19 lane agility drill. Fastest at the combine and he's 6'9. 40 inch vertical too. I think he can be a 3 in the NBA. |
does he have the range to be a 3 though? |
I think so. Eventually. He has nice form on his jump shot. |
Awful shooter. Not everyone can be fixed. Just like Ebanks shooting wise. |
I don't think Ebanks was that bad. I remember he would be streaky from midrange, but there were nights where he looked good. Leslie from the perimeter reminds me of Josh Smith.
Leslie will always have the athletic numbers, but I don't think he has the motor. He's almost on my no-draft list. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Justwar wrote: | I gotta say I'm going low risk medium reward, Colton Iverson based on everything. Just seems like a extremely solid backup big the 2nd team never had to set picks, get boards and is fairly efficient around the rim. You can have your athletes but a lot of them under performed for a very good reason, and mostly its because of lack of effort. This guy works. Think Madsen but bigger. Effort guys help your team when everything else fails. |
I like him too from the work ethic standpoint. I just don't want to miss on any ... can't miss prospects at the pick as well. Iverson is a safer pick than others. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Fri May 17, 2013 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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bonkers wrote: | Mike is Otto Porter top 3 lock? |
Mock drafts are something I don't do. What I prefer to do instead is a ranked draft list of players who I think are best to worst. That way when a player gets drafted, you just cross them off the list, and pick whoever is left at the top as the best player available.
Porter is a lottery lock. Top 3, I think, would be insane. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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kaoss128 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:14 am Post subject: |
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Thoughts on Carter-Williams? A 6'6" PG with a 41 inch vert is pretty intriguing. |
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bonkers Star Player
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lkjhf Star Player
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Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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mbakwe is productive and efficient and he has gigantic kawhi leonard hands but he's also 24 already and he has an injury history. i don't think that will be enough to make him fall to the late second round though |
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Lakersfield Star Player
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Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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Carrick Felix sounds good, anybody actually seen him play. _________________ Started posting on Lakersground when it was lakers/rivals.com since Aug.2000. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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kaoss128 wrote: | Thoughts on Carter-Williams? A 6'6" PG with a 41 inch vert is pretty intriguing. |
Dribbles too high, small hands, has trouble finishing through contact, doesn't have the quickest first step.
I'm not intrigued. Shawn Livingston preinjury would blow him out of the water with hoop IQ and natural playmaking alone. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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bonkers Star Player
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Are there any DII or even DIII gems to be found as bottom 2nd/undrafted FAs? I know we drafted Deavan George from Augsburg which is a DIII school I believe. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2013 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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bonkers wrote: | Are there any DII or even DIII gems to be found as bottom 2nd/undrafted FAs? I know we drafted Deavan George from Augsburg which is a DIII school I believe. |
/www.draftexpress.com/profile/Arsalan-Kazemi-5665/ _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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bonkers Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Mike any info on Vander Blue? Apparently we worked him out recently |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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bonkers wrote: | Mike any info on Vander Blue? Apparently we worked him out recently |
Showed some shot inconsistency from the combine, from what I've read. Good SG size/athleticism, just hasn't put it all together. Cool name. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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The Lebrons Star Player
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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NBADraft.net has us taking Peyton Siva at #48. I'd like to pat myself on the back lol. |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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The Lebrons wrote: | NBADraft.net has us taking Peyton Siva at #48. I'd like to pat myself on the back lol. |
Better PG than Goudelock. I like how Siva plays more than Morris, even if Siva can't shoot. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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a2j1m Star Player
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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bonkers wrote: | Mike any info on Vander Blue? Apparently we worked him out recently |
Marquette always has underrated draft picks besides Wade but I.e. Wes Matthews, Steve Novak, Jimmy Butler, and Jae Crowder. I thought Blue was going back but if not i say take a chance maybe at 48. I still think Darius Johnson-Odom can play but needs to be given a chance. We need to draft a PG or SF. |
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T3R Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Mike your take on Andre Roberson?
I like this guy's game footage. Athletic cleanup player with frame and athleticism to defend on the perimeter and finish. Not extremely polished, but similar to Ariza? Iggy defensive type without the O game? |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:17 am Post subject: |
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T3R wrote: | Mike your take on Andre Roberson?
I like this guy's game footage. Athletic cleanup player with frame and athleticism to defend on the perimeter and finish. Not extremely polished, but similar to Ariza? Iggy defensive type without the O game? |
I liken him to Ruben Patterson. Oddly freakishly athletic, motor, quick, fast. Lacks the ball-skills and perimeter ability to play SF since he's been comfortably playing PF at the NCAA level.
DJ Stephens is in the same mold. Lacking ball skills but 46" vert. Two killer swats in todays workout via twitter; Chad Ford and DX. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Which one do you think will turn into the better player Mike, Jammal Franklin or Shabazz Muhammad? _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:44 am Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | Which one do you think will turn into the better player Mike, Jammal Franklin or Shabazz Muhammad? |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:58 am Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | Which one do you think will turn into the better player Mike, Jammal Franklin or Shabazz Muhammad? |
That is a tough question. It depends on how you define better player. I'm biased towards Franklin because I think there's so much Eddie Jones to his game; length, motor, forces turnovers, swats.
Muhammad has a better shot creating skill set and is just as competitive, and if he focused on defense, he could stop players too. But like Bryant early on, he has a blind eye, so competitive, that it's always on him, even when the open shot is somewhere else.
IMHO, best case for Franklin is Eddie Jones, but the worst case for Shabazz is Michael Beasley. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Basically Bazz has a higher ceiling but also the higher bust potential that comes along with it _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:10 am Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | Basically Bazz has a higher ceiling but also the higher bust potential that comes along with it |
Yup. You'd kick yourself if you missed on drafting a player who has the ball-skills of Paul Pierce. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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T3R Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:13 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | T3R wrote: | Mike your take on Andre Roberson?
I like this guy's game footage. Athletic cleanup player with frame and athleticism to defend on the perimeter and finish. Not extremely polished, but similar to Ariza? Iggy defensive type without the O game? |
I liken him to Ruben Patterson. Oddly freakishly athletic, motor, quick, fast. Lacks the ball-skills and perimeter ability to play SF since he's been comfortably playing PF at the NCAA level.
DJ Stephens is in the same mold. Lacking ball skills but 46" vert. Two killer swats in todays workout via twitter; Chad Ford and DX. |
Ahh Patterson's a good comparison, thanks Mike. Stephens looks interesting too. |
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Fan0Bynum17 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Basically Bazz has a higher ceiling but also the higher bust potential that comes along with it |
Yup. You'd kick yourself if you missed on drafting a player who has the ball-skills of Paul Pierce. |
Do you think Shabazz will be able to create off the dribble? |
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