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 Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:47 am Post subject: Lakers in the News June 23, 2012: What to expect from Kobe Bryant at age 34 |
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| Quote: | What to expect from Kobe Bryant at age 34
Jim Buss told T.J. Simers recently to expect the same core of players on the Lakers roster next season.
Kobe Bryant turns 34 in August, and he's already played in 1,381 regular season and playoff games in his 16 seasons with the Lakers. Given all that mileage, what kind of production can the Lakers expect from Bryant in 2012-13?
Based on a study of some other Hall of Famer scorers and how they performed at age 34, the answer is -- quite a lot. |
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| Quote: | Lakers Rumors: Dwight Howard remains a trade possibility for the Lakers
The Los Angeles Lakers are always one of the most active teams during the NBA off-season with GM Mitch Kupchak exploring all options to improve the squad through trades or via free agency. Over the summer, the Lakers will face some challenges in terms of making changes with the new CBA restricting the team’s flexibility on the free agent market.
With signing big-name free agents before next season presenting a problem for the Lakers, Kupchak and company will likely explore trade options with superstars Deron Williams and Dwight Howard at the top of their wish list |
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| Quote: | Lakers Draft Rumors: Wisconsin PG Jordan Taylor A Potential Target
The Los Angeles Lakers are going to have a long summer ahead of them as figure out how to regroup from what the team views as a disappointing showing during the lockout-shortened 2011-12 NBA season. Unlike most other teams, however, there is only so much the Lakers will be able to do via the 2012 NBA Draft. They only hold one pick in the entire draft, a second-round pick that will be the No. 60 overall selection.
Over at Lakers Nation, Gil Alcaraz has a great profile on a potential Lakers target at No. 60. Alcaraz theorizes that the Lakers may be targeting Wisconsin Badgers point guard Jordan Taylor. |
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Kobe at 34: 27-30 ppg 4.5 reb 4.8 ast 1-1.2 stls 2.5-3.1 topg, 37-38 minutes.
This is my projection if the team doesn't break up it's core. Why?
Kobe will be healthy, coming off his 2nd gold in the Olympics he will play close to another MVP season, he will find his shooting stroke and shoot around 45%, this season was a fluke.
He will be motivated to win because he saw the Thunder get demoralized in the PO, losing 4 games in a row against the Heat, OKC's weaknesses were seen on the biggest stage of the NBA, we will find a way to exploit that.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:51 pm Post subject: LAT - "Kobe Bryant is the problem, not the solution for Lakers" |
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| Quote: | Kobe Bryant is the problem, not the solution for Lakers
Listen to yourselves, Lakers fans.
Reread your email and look in the mirror: You appear clueless and sound ridiculous.
The Lakers are doomed to fail over the next two seasons and you are only kidding yourself if you think something can be done to change it.
The guy who has played the hardest, giving it his all and who has been the best player on the court for the Lakers for the longest time is now the problem.
And deep down you know it because Kobe Bryant is not going anywhere, and he is not about to become a role-playing Tim Duncan or a pass-first LeBron James.
Like the fading MVP chants in Staples, try as he will, there's just not enough left to muster another championship run.
It really doesn't matter how good of a coach Mike Brown is, whether Jim Buss is allowed to discuss the team or whether Andrew Bynum should be traded.
As long as Kobe Bryant is here, the ball will be in his hands, and that's no longer a sure thing.
More than anyone else, Kobe controls the fortunes of the Lakers and yet most folks want Brown fired and the younger Buss' baseball cap knocked off his shaggy head.
I already know the rebuttal, but this has nothing to do with being a Kobe lover or hater. No one is denying his greatness, just questioning what he has left to offer.
Like so many superstars before him, the mind and competitive spirit are still at the highest level. But beginning season No. 17 after the Olympics, as he will, the body will no longer be as dependable as it was during the glory years.
We've already seen it.
A trip to Germany to regain a spring in his step bolstered his confidence, but there's no fooling passing time. So many superstars in so many different sports before him have tried.
Kobe hit 43% of his shots this season on bolstered confidence, his worst shooting performance since starting one game his second season in the league.
The best closer in the game, as he is so often described, really is no longer the best.
Begin with the final five minutes of a game or overtime and neither team ahead by more than five points as 82games.com has done in sorting the numbers.
And Kobe hit 32.7% of his shots down the stretch to place him 109th in the NBA in field-goal percentage. When Bynum was given the chance to shoot in the closing stages of a game, he was successful 82% of the time to place No. 1 in the NBA.
It was laughable to hear the NBA analysts on TV talk about Coach Brown's inability to draw up plays with options like Gregg Popovich or Doc Rivers.
How many times does the ball just stop when Kobe calls for it, or he just takes over in the final minutes?
Kobe hit 21.4% of his three-pointers on what 82games.com calls its list of "clutch" stats in the final five minutes to place No. 73. Think about your own expectations and how you would swear Kobe is this amazing killer down the stretch and yet he's hitting two for 10 from long range.
He placed 12th in most points scored with the game on the line, but he also took the fourth most shots in the league.
No doubt Kobe would say he feeds off such doubt, and so he's going to continue to shoot to prove the naysayers wrong.
It's not going to change and the Lakers can do so little about it. They owe Kobe nearly $60 million over the next two seasons, which makes it impossible to even consider trading him.
He's here, he's Kobe and he's going to proceed as if sheer determination will make all the difference.
And when the Lakers fall short, there will be talk about firing Brown. What's that all about?
He took over a team swept by Dallas under the leadership of Phil Jackson, no training camp, limited practice and played without Lamar Odom, who had played his best a season earlier.
But people want him fired. What has he done wrong?
He came in emphasizing defense and Kobe bought into it. He came in believing the two big men gave the Lakers the edge over the league, and was he wrong?
We don't know because every time the game was on the line the ball was hogged by Kobe. Do you think that would be different under Brian Shaw or anyone else?
So much of this is just outright ridiculous, Lakers fans are insisting the team make a trade, any trade just so they feel better.
But who are you going to get in return for Bynum? Dwight Howard has told the Lakers he does not want to play with Kobe. If Howard's mind was changed, who gets the ball in the final five minutes?
You can trade Pau Gasol, who has won two titles playing with Kobe, but if you think Kobe struggled to trust him down the stretch, who does he come to trust more?
And was Kobe upset with Gasol, or upset with himself for misfiring but needing to blame someone else?
Whatever the answer, it's still all about Kobe. And while most folks would tell you that is the best thing going for the Lakers, is it really?
I'm telling you, it is so much easier to be a Clippers fan. No expectations, no crazy talk about getting better, not even a general manager on the payroll with the NBA draft and free agency set to begin this week. |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: LAT - "Kobe Bryant is the problem, not the solution for Lakers" |
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| LakerFan4 wrote: | | Quote: | Kobe Bryant is the problem, not the solution for Lakers
Listen to yourselves, Lakers fans.
Reread your email and look in the mirror: You appear clueless and sound ridiculous.
The Lakers are doomed to fail over the next two seasons and you are only kidding yourself if you think something can be done to change it.
The guy who has played the hardest, giving it his all and who has been the best player on the court for the Lakers for the longest time is now the problem.
And deep down you know it because Kobe Bryant is not going anywhere, and he is not about to become a role-playing Tim Duncan or a pass-first LeBron James.
Like the fading MVP chants in Staples, try as he will, there's just not enough left to muster another championship run.
It really doesn't matter how good of a coach Mike Brown is, whether Jim Buss is allowed to discuss the team or whether Andrew Bynum should be traded.
As long as Kobe Bryant is here, the ball will be in his hands, and that's no longer a sure thing.
More than anyone else, Kobe controls the fortunes of the Lakers and yet most folks want Brown fired and the younger Buss' baseball cap knocked off his shaggy head.
I already know the rebuttal, but this has nothing to do with being a Kobe lover or hater. No one is denying his greatness, just questioning what he has left to offer.
Like so many superstars before him, the mind and competitive spirit are still at the highest level. But beginning season No. 17 after the Olympics, as he will, the body will no longer be as dependable as it was during the glory years.
We've already seen it.
A trip to Germany to regain a spring in his step bolstered his confidence, but there's no fooling passing time. So many superstars in so many different sports before him have tried.
Kobe hit 43% of his shots this season on bolstered confidence, his worst shooting performance since starting one game his second season in the league.
The best closer in the game, as he is so often described, really is no longer the best.
Begin with the final five minutes of a game or overtime and neither team ahead by more than five points as 82games.com has done in sorting the numbers.
And Kobe hit 32.7% of his shots down the stretch to place him 109th in the NBA in field-goal percentage. When Bynum was given the chance to shoot in the closing stages of a game, he was successful 82% of the time to place No. 1 in the NBA.
It was laughable to hear the NBA analysts on TV talk about Coach Brown's inability to draw up plays with options like Gregg Popovich or Doc Rivers.
How many times does the ball just stop when Kobe calls for it, or he just takes over in the final minutes?
Kobe hit 21.4% of his three-pointers on what 82games.com calls its list of "clutch" stats in the final five minutes to place No. 73. Think about your own expectations and how you would swear Kobe is this amazing killer down the stretch and yet he's hitting two for 10 from long range.
He placed 12th in most points scored with the game on the line, but he also took the fourth most shots in the league.
No doubt Kobe would say he feeds off such doubt, and so he's going to continue to shoot to prove the naysayers wrong.
It's not going to change and the Lakers can do so little about it. They owe Kobe nearly $60 million over the next two seasons, which makes it impossible to even consider trading him.
He's here, he's Kobe and he's going to proceed as if sheer determination will make all the difference.
And when the Lakers fall short, there will be talk about firing Brown. What's that all about?
He took over a team swept by Dallas under the leadership of Phil Jackson, no training camp, limited practice and played without Lamar Odom, who had played his best a season earlier.
But people want him fired. What has he done wrong?
He came in emphasizing defense and Kobe bought into it. He came in believing the two big men gave the Lakers the edge over the league, and was he wrong?
We don't know because every time the game was on the line the ball was hogged by Kobe. Do you think that would be different under Brian Shaw or anyone else?
So much of this is just outright ridiculous, Lakers fans are insisting the team make a trade, any trade just so they feel better.
But who are you going to get in return for Bynum? Dwight Howard has told the Lakers he does not want to play with Kobe. If Howard's mind was changed, who gets the ball in the final five minutes?
You can trade Pau Gasol, who has won two titles playing with Kobe, but if you think Kobe struggled to trust him down the stretch, who does he come to trust more?
And was Kobe upset with Gasol, or upset with himself for misfiring but needing to blame someone else?
Whatever the answer, it's still all about Kobe. And while most folks would tell you that is the best thing going for the Lakers, is it really?
I'm telling you, it is so much easier to be a Clippers fan. No expectations, no crazy talk about getting better, not even a general manager on the payroll with the NBA draft and free agency set to begin this week. |
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 A TJ Simers article? The only problem Kobe Bryant poses to TJ is his inability to get an interview with Kobe (for the last 8 years). |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: LAT - "Kobe Bryant is the problem, not the solution for Lakers" |
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| LakerFan4 wrote: | | Quote: | Kobe Bryant is the problem, not the solution for Lakers
Listen to yourselves, Lakers fans.
Reread your email and look in the mirror: You appear clueless and sound ridiculous.
The Lakers are doomed to fail over the next two seasons and you are only kidding yourself if you think something can be done to change it.
The guy who has played the hardest, giving it his all and who has been the best player on the court for the Lakers for the longest time is now the problem.
And deep down you know it because Kobe Bryant is not going anywhere, and he is not about to become a role-playing Tim Duncan or a pass-first LeBron James.
Like the fading MVP chants in Staples, try as he will, there's just not enough left to muster another championship run.
It really doesn't matter how good of a coach Mike Brown is, whether Jim Buss is allowed to discuss the team or whether Andrew Bynum should be traded.
As long as Kobe Bryant is here, the ball will be in his hands, and that's no longer a sure thing.
More than anyone else, Kobe controls the fortunes of the Lakers and yet most folks want Brown fired and the younger Buss' baseball cap knocked off his shaggy head.
I already know the rebuttal, but this has nothing to do with being a Kobe lover or hater. No one is denying his greatness, just questioning what he has left to offer.
Like so many superstars before him, the mind and competitive spirit are still at the highest level. But beginning season No. 17 after the Olympics, as he will, the body will no longer be as dependable as it was during the glory years.
We've already seen it.
A trip to Germany to regain a spring in his step bolstered his confidence, but there's no fooling passing time. So many superstars in so many different sports before him have tried.
Kobe hit 43% of his shots this season on bolstered confidence, his worst shooting performance since starting one game his second season in the league.
The best closer in the game, as he is so often described, really is no longer the best.
Begin with the final five minutes of a game or overtime and neither team ahead by more than five points as 82games.com has done in sorting the numbers.
And Kobe hit 32.7% of his shots down the stretch to place him 109th in the NBA in field-goal percentage. When Bynum was given the chance to shoot in the closing stages of a game, he was successful 82% of the time to place No. 1 in the NBA.
It was laughable to hear the NBA analysts on TV talk about Coach Brown's inability to draw up plays with options like Gregg Popovich or Doc Rivers.
How many times does the ball just stop when Kobe calls for it, or he just takes over in the final minutes?
Kobe hit 21.4% of his three-pointers on what 82games.com calls its list of "clutch" stats in the final five minutes to place No. 73. Think about your own expectations and how you would swear Kobe is this amazing killer down the stretch and yet he's hitting two for 10 from long range.
He placed 12th in most points scored with the game on the line, but he also took the fourth most shots in the league.
No doubt Kobe would say he feeds off such doubt, and so he's going to continue to shoot to prove the naysayers wrong.
It's not going to change and the Lakers can do so little about it. They owe Kobe nearly $60 million over the next two seasons, which makes it impossible to even consider trading him.
He's here, he's Kobe and he's going to proceed as if sheer determination will make all the difference.
And when the Lakers fall short, there will be talk about firing Brown. What's that all about?
He took over a team swept by Dallas under the leadership of Phil Jackson, no training camp, limited practice and played without Lamar Odom, who had played his best a season earlier.
But people want him fired. What has he done wrong?
He came in emphasizing defense and Kobe bought into it. He came in believing the two big men gave the Lakers the edge over the league, and was he wrong?
We don't know because every time the game was on the line the ball was hogged by Kobe. Do you think that would be different under Brian Shaw or anyone else?
So much of this is just outright ridiculous, Lakers fans are insisting the team make a trade, any trade just so they feel better.
But who are you going to get in return for Bynum? Dwight Howard has told the Lakers he does not want to play with Kobe. If Howard's mind was changed, who gets the ball in the final five minutes?
You can trade Pau Gasol, who has won two titles playing with Kobe, but if you think Kobe struggled to trust him down the stretch, who does he come to trust more?
And was Kobe upset with Gasol, or upset with himself for misfiring but needing to blame someone else?
Whatever the answer, it's still all about Kobe. And while most folks would tell you that is the best thing going for the Lakers, is it really?
I'm telling you, it is so much easier to be a Clippers fan. No expectations, no crazy talk about getting better, not even a general manager on the payroll with the NBA draft and free agency set to begin this week. |
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yeah...bury this one...it would bring down the server |
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Oh T.J. , are you bored too?
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| kobe is no longer his prime self, we get it, but that pathetic surrounding cast around our BIG 3 cant make open jumpers. that makes it easy to focus on kobe with double teams |
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Quite fair assessment, I would say.
Should not be a large suprise that Kobe-ball will not get us anywhere. Especially with years piling up. Kobe will not get any younger, knee-treatment and all. Will he learn to trust teammates and team game instead of iso game and wanting to be the only hero? Did not happen this year.
And should not be a surprise at all that Kobe's contract will kill most hopes of improving the roster.
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| Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:58 am Post subject: LAKERS IN THE NEWS JUNE 24: LAKERS NOT OUT OF THE DERON SWEEPSTAKES |
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Sam AmickFollow Sam AmickIn Progress Basketball
With free agency just days away, a quick look at Deron Williams' situation: As I reported last month, the Nets point guard is believed to be interested in joining the Lakers (it would have to be via sign-and-trade). But with Brooklyn reportedly uninterested in Pau Gasol and the Lakers sounding unwilling to part ways with Andrew Bynum, I'm not sure what form that deal could take. Otherwise, it's no wonder he's having a tough time deciding between the Nets and his hometown Mavs: He's known to love living in NYC with his family, but Brooklyn has such a long ways to go to be a playoff team - let alone a title contender - unless they get Dwight Howard. The Mavs, meanwhile can offer a chance to contend that may have a limited shelf life since Dirk Nowitzki is 34. If we're strictly talking basketball here (which isn't the case nearly often enough), it's a no-brainer that - in the absence of a Howard deal with Orlando - Dallas should be his destination. Should be an interesting couple of weeks - http://sportsillustrat... |
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| An article not worthy of wiping my butt.... |
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| lakersken80, you don't think Sam Amick has any merit on this topic? |
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