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Thugnomoe
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| driver wrote: | | Thugnomoe wrote: | | Zone defense is kryptonite for Bynum.. needs to work better in it.. pass.. vision.. |
Pau is the odd man these days, he's always open because the defense draws toward Kobe and Bynum. Now Kobe and Pau can both shoot a jumper, so they're much more comfortable with it. Bynum though gets double and really lets himself handle too much. He shouldn't be afraid of passing out to Pau, repositioning himself, and getting a pass back. That's one of the things he's gotta learn to do and expect. |
would love to see that happen.. reposition and get deeper. |
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| Lakers 4 eva wrote: | | RyderzDelight wrote: | | Thugnomoe wrote: | | Kobe.. 3 consecutive 30 pt games. on a bad wrist.. who says he's done? |
greenfrog, wildchild, thenewera, noteasilybroken.
They are also members of the prestigous "LG nonsense, talk out of your ass" club. |
Kobe is still elite offensively which is amazing but you gotta agree that defensively, he is pretty much done. Watching him try to guard any of the Blazers wing players was just not pretty. |
I don't think "he's done." He is visibly slower, I'll give you that. But I don't think he needs to be at full speed risking injuries right now. Let's wait till the post season and the games where he really has to play defense, before we pass judgement. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Thugnomoe wrote: | | Kobe.. 3 consecutive 30 pt games. on a bad wrist.. who says he's done? |
Only way I can see the Lakers live where I live is to put up with that rancid Rose Garden crowd to watch. It's almost always a frustrating game, but win or lose, just getting a chance to watch Kobe live and fully appreciate what he brings to the game keeps me coming back year after year. It was clear last night and tonight as well; no way is he done. |
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driver
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Lakers 4 eva wrote: | | RyderzDelight wrote: | | Thugnomoe wrote: | | Kobe.. 3 consecutive 30 pt games. on a bad wrist.. who says he's done? |
greenfrog, wildchild, thenewera, noteasilybroken.
They are also members of the prestigous "LG nonsense, talk out of your ass" club. |
Kobe is still elite offensively which is amazing but you gotta agree that defensively, he is pretty much done. Watching him try to guard any of the Blazers wing players was just not pretty. |
He actually runs out now at shooters on 3s, so Mike's teachings are having some effect on him this year. He just lapses from time to time, a lot better than last year where it was literally "I focus 100% on O, nothing on D". |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| driver wrote: | | Lakers 4 eva wrote: | | RyderzDelight wrote: | | Thugnomoe wrote: | | Kobe.. 3 consecutive 30 pt games. on a bad wrist.. who says he's done? |
greenfrog, wildchild, thenewera, noteasilybroken.
They are also members of the prestigous "LG nonsense, talk out of your ass" club. |
Kobe is still elite offensively which is amazing but you gotta agree that defensively, he is pretty much done. Watching him try to guard any of the Blazers wing players was just not pretty. |
He actually runs out now at shooters on 3s, so Mike's teachings are having some effect on him this year. He just lapses from time to time, a lot better than last year where it was literally "I focus 100% on O, nothing on D". |
Watching other teams hit 3 after 3 last season was friggin infuriating! |
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Thugnomoe
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | Thugnomoe wrote: | | Kobe.. 3 consecutive 30 pt games. on a bad wrist.. who says he's done? |
Only way I can see the Lakers live where I live is to put up with that rancid Rose Garden crowd to watch. It's almost always a frustrating game, but win or lose, just getting a chance to watch Kobe live and fully appreciate what he brings to the game keeps me coming back year after year. It was clear last night and tonight as well; no way is he done. |
I'm in the pdx area as well. but i can't stand the rose garden.. I'll be in LA in a few weeks.. try and get out to Staples. |
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mhan00
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| Teams have started to adjust to Drew's play, now up to drew and the lakers to make some counter adjustments to get Drew the ball in his spots. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe, Pau and Matt Barnes - Great games!!
Drew - shot was off but still active around the basket, 16 rebounds, not bad!
Fish - crafty little  on that Q4 steal!
Goudelock with 4 - now if only we could extend a lead and maybe see a little Morris??? |
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rpadma12
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| mhan00 wrote: | | Teams have started to adjust to Drew's play, now up to drew and the lakers to make some counter adjustments to get Drew the ball in his spots. |
considering the limited number of games he has played this season, that's a quick adjustment. It's amazing what Bynum lacks, Pau has and what Pau lacks Bynum can provide. Pau is not going to change at this point, hopefully Bynum understands that he needs to truly understand the offense and spacing. It's not just about feeding him and then he dunks, anymore. |
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rpadma12
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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>> Duranla: Bynum w 9 pts 16 boards said he had no energy or legs
So, will Bynum ever have his conditioning down? |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| rpadma12 wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Teams have started to adjust to Drew's play, now up to drew and the lakers to make some counter adjustments to get Drew the ball in his spots. |
considering the limited number of games he has played this season, that's a quick adjustment. It's amazing what Bynum lacks, Pau has and what Pau lacks Bynum can provide. Pau is not going to change at this point, hopefully Bynum understands that he needs to truly understand the offense and spacing. It's not just about feeding him and then he dunks, anymore. |
It seems Drew and Pau were working on that a bit in the first half yesterday, and for a while vs Portland both Pau and Drew were playing very effectively on offense at the same time, at least prior to halftime. Today we saw a lot more Pau as well. I see Pau initiating a lot of conversations with Drew, and from what I can see Drew appears willing to listen; I think it's a matter of time. |
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DaMamba
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This might be a problem throughout the year, although Kobe seems to be doing fine for now.
mcten Dave McMenamin
Barnes on Kobe: "He's playing with a boxing glove for a hand. It's that swollen."
Just wish he didn't have to be so aggressive in a damn pre season game. |
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ctb619
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Portland gets clobbered in Phoenix by 25 points. 2/19 on 3 pointers. 
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