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eureca Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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Actually I might have been wrong. Seems the report now is that Deron is actually forcing Sloan out.
At least according to.
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Lakersneuron Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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I am a big Sloan fan. His teams (barring this year) always execute well, and fight tooth and nail for the win. As a fan, what more could you ask for? Imo, they always seem to over achieve given their talent levels, and the motion offense is very fun to watch. Jerry was just unluckily enough to face Jordan's Bulls, and thus, never won a ring. Its a shame, because he definitely deserves one.
Something must have hit the fan for him to leave in the middle of the season like this.
I wouldn't mind giving Sloan some burn in Los Angeles. As a fan, I think it would be a great thing to watch. |
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trmiv Franchise Player
Joined: 19 Nov 2001 Posts: 17666 Location: Orlando
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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eureca wrote: | Actually I might have been wrong. Seems the report now is that Deron is actually forcing Sloan out.
At least according to.
http://twitter.com/tribjazz
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Wow. So how long before the crazy Utah fans turn on Deron for running Sloan out of town? |
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pillzmayn Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Something happened because he just signed a extension the other day. _________________ "You always have to be on edge. You always have to take every practice, every game, like it is your last." - Kobe Bryant
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kok823 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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If DWill was mad at Sloan yesterday for berating him then I really lost a lot of respect of Williams. The truth is that he, as the all-star point guard of the team, failed to execute out there in the final minutes of the game which could have given the Jazz the W. _________________ 2008-2009 NBA CHAMPIONS ------Your LOS ANGELES LAKERS!!
2009-2010 NBA CHAMPIONS ------Your LOS ANGELES LAKERS!! |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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trmiv wrote: | eureca wrote: | Actually I might have been wrong. Seems the report now is that Deron is actually forcing Sloan out.
At least according to.
http://twitter.com/tribjazz
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Wow. So how long before the crazy Utah fans turn on Deron for running Sloan out of town? |
I wouldn't be surprised to see if he left to join an elite team after his contract is over. After all, its pretty much the trend these days. |
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lakerjoshua Franchise Player
Joined: 28 Nov 2007 Posts: 11277 Location: Bay Area
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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trmiv wrote: | eureca wrote: | Actually I might have been wrong. Seems the report now is that Deron is actually forcing Sloan out.
At least according to.
http://twitter.com/tribjazz
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Wow. So how long before the crazy Utah fans turn on Deron for running Sloan out of town? |
^ My thoughts exactly. Sloan is more of a "fan favorite" and face of the franchise than Deron. Stupid move by the Jazz if this is actually the case. Release a 20 year head coach to appease a disgruntled primadonna point guard? For those of you who want Deron In the P&G, forget about it. You could see it last time we played them, he has not only given up on his coach, he gave up on his team. I doubt that many teams will be willing to build a franchise around this guy now.
Take Kobe 2005. The Lakers stunk, he drops 81 and continues to wow the crowd on a nightly basis. Team gets better, Kobe rides it out and Bang! Back to back rings.
Deron 2011, team stinks, his game disappears and he pouts, the entire franchise suffers. Forces out a coach who in all reality may have been his best shot at a ring.
Albeit there are factors in each case such as what the Franchise has done to build around the Star. In Kobe's case, Buss did what had to be done and made the moves, spent the money. In Deron's case, seems like the Jazz are just trimming salary and being cheap, so I'll give him that just to be fair.
Also, as i stated in the "other" Sloan thread. If Jerry does retire, as well as Phil. The NBA will be suffering a huge loss as will the fans. Truly sad. |
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RealOne Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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eureca wrote: | Seems the report now is that Deron is actually forcing Sloan out.
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Sounds about right, confirmed my suspicions. |
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rebirth Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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WOW! Utah will regret this move. Sloan has been a staple of that organzation for over 20 years and is one of the best in Basketballl. Deron is a hell of a PG, but its hard to see them picking Deron or siding with Deron with what Jerry gave that organzation. He will be missed in Utah book it!! Sorry to see him go, but even more disturbing is the pre madona player forcing him out. Jerry has done everything but win a title and has coached the two of the best in Malone and stockton. Surely he has the knowledge and know how to make Deron a better player... Problem is Deron's ego wont let it happen. Sorry to see sloan go! love his fire and passion! _________________ “What is 17,505”
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jonnybravo Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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pillzmayn wrote: | Something happened because he just signed a extension the other day. |
Posted this in the other thread but according to all the peeps over at Jazz forums, he signed it at beginning of year but it was just recently announced. |
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jonnybravo Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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rebirth wrote: | WOW! Utah will regret this move. Sloan has been a staple of that organzation for over 20 years and is one of the best in Basketballl. Deron is a hell of a PG, but its hard to see them picking Deron or siding with Deron with what Jerry gave that organzation. He will be missed in Utah book it!! Sorry to see him go, but even more disturbing is the pre madona player forcing him out. Jerry has done everything but win a title and has coached the two of the best in Malone and stockton. Surely he has the knowledge and know how to make Deron a better player... Problem is Deron's ego wont let it happen. Sorry to see sloan go! love his fire and passion! |
Agreed.
There are only 3-4 coaches in the league that TRULY make a difference. The rest are a bunch of retreads you roll out as a face to talk to the media while they have zero impact on teams wins/losses. Sloan is one of the difference makers. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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Not a surprise. Since Larry Miller passed away, I'm not sure who runs the franchise. |
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angrypuppy Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Phil Johnson will not be taking over the head coaching duties for the Jazz... he turned in his resignation with Sloan.
I admire his loyalty. |
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ppilot Starting Rotation
Joined: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 219 Location: Portland
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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RealOne wrote: | eureca wrote: | Seems the report now is that Deron is actually forcing Sloan out.
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Sounds about right, confirmed my suspicions. |
I know it's a business but if this is true, I just lost a ton of respect for Williams. |
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Fan0Bynum17 Franchise Player
Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 15436
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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That sucks. |
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LALdynasty! Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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angrypuppy wrote: | Wow....
I have a ton of admiration for Coach Sloan. Sorry to see him go.
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+1
We're losing two of the greatest coaches ever in the same season.
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trmiv Franchise Player
Joined: 19 Nov 2001 Posts: 17666 Location: Orlando
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if Sloan will hang it up for good, or come back coaching? He was already the oldest coach in the NBA at 68. |
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LALdynasty! Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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trmiv wrote: | I wonder if Sloan will hang it up for good, or come back coaching? He was already the oldest coach in the NBA at 68. |
I can't imagine him coming back. This news sounds like he's done. |
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lakerjoshua Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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LALdynasty! wrote: | trmiv wrote: | I wonder if Sloan will hang it up for good, or come back coaching? He was already the oldest coach in the NBA at 68. |
I can't imagine him coming back. This news sounds like he's done. |
My gut feeling as well. |
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Moses Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Sad, because he was a hell of a coach. If Williams had something to do with that then i definitely just lost some respect for Deron. _________________ Lakers, Chargers, Dodgers, Arsenal FC.
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celticsblow Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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Jerry's team had the best overall home record (133-31) over the last four years (this year, not included). Yet, on the road, they were mediocre at best coming in at 73-91.
I think the "hit 'em hard, and hit 'em often" football style of basketball works quite well in a crazy arena in your home town... especially if the refs are scared ****less of the town. Yet, on the road, not so much.
I've always liked Sloan as a coach and appreciated his hard-nosed style and approach. But, in today's league, that ain't enough. Home cookin' will only get you so far, and managing personalities is just as important as game planning.
Bummer to see him go out like this... he deserved better. But, I wouldn't want to see him as a successor to PJ. |
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City_Dawg Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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Damn, is this (bleep) really happening? _________________ *sighs*
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chipotleattack Star Player
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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DJ Qube wrote: | Re-sign or resign? he just re-signed, now he's resigning? |
Always annoys me when people get those two mixed up. In this case, Sloan actually did both!
Dwill...is he a cancer now that he's forced a coach out? |
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City_Dawg Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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I think the pressure of being a leader in a bad time has gotten to Dwill. _________________ *sighs*
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angrypuppy Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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This all reminds me of something Jeff Hornacek once said of Coach Sloan... that he is so confrontational you start to wonder whether you should punch him. Hornacek said that he could fight Sloan, and maybe even had a chance of winning... but he'd probably lose a testicle. |
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