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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | FredG wrote: | lot of post padding going on in here tonight |
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LakerLanny Retired Number
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FredG wrote: | LakerLanny wrote: | On purpose, no....but they played bad fundamental D.
You have to know your opponent, there is no reason to double team on the inside against a team like Phoenix, you need to play them outside in. Almost the opposite of the mindset against most teams.
Whether they left them open "on purpose" or not is irrelevant. The bottom line is they were wide open and that is on the Lakers. Give the Suns credit for making the shots though, the NBA 3 is still a man's shot. |
It looked to me like they were getting caught on defensive switches (Pau ending up on Nash). Nash did some early turkey carving on that Laker D, especially Fish. Maybe Blake would have helped...probably not. Phoenix was hot hot hot! |
You make some good points.
I would have liked to see Phil mix it up a little better when it was obvious they were red hot....I think a 3-2 zone would have been helpful tonight to shut down the outside game and force the Suns to try and go inside (no Amare any more) _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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LA1969 Starting Rotation
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KINGD wrote: | Pau with another pathetic showing. Idiots blaming the dude who had 25/14/9/1 on excellent efficiency. Idiots. |
Yeah, 9 turns and no D is super efficient! I love Kobe but to blame Pau just because you gotta bromance for your boy is kinda sad, really. _________________ "Time wounds all heels". -John Lennon |
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bryantest Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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How the hell Lamar got a technical? |
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FredG Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="venturalakersfan"][quote="venturalakersfan"][quote="venturalakersfan"] venturalakersfan wrote: | FredG wrote: | lot of post padding going on in here tonight |
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I said Phoenix was hot tonight. _________________ Just Say No To "Thread Crapping" |
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dood23 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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the sky is falling. |
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FredG Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | FredG wrote: | lot of post padding going on in here tonight |
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I'm a Laker fan. What are you? _________________ Just Say No To "Thread Crapping" |
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the_pharmacist Starting Rotation
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venturalakersfan wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | FredG wrote: | lot of post padding going on in here tonight |
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stare_at_GOATs Star Player
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FredG wrote: | stare_at_GOATs wrote: | FredG wrote: | Tonight was Phoenix's night. Nothing the Lakers could really do. |
Yeah, except, like, play defense or something. |
Sometimes you just gotta tip your cap. They made everything tonight. |
Tipping your hat to the 118 from Denver also?
It's just bad defense. Any good shooter can hit wide-open shots. |
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dirka dirka Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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17 FTA's...at home. _________________
jbjb wrote: | Echoes from the half empty glass. |
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Drifts Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLanny wrote: | On purpose, no....but they played bad fundamental D.
You have to know your opponent, there is no reason to double team on the inside against a team like Phoenix, you need to play them outside in. Almost the opposite of the mindset against most teams.
Whether they left them open "on purpose" or not is irrelevant. The bottom line is they were wide open and that is on the Lakers. Give the Suns credit for making the shots though, the NBA 3 is still a man's shot. |
you have to know your opponent of course, obviously, the Lakers didn't scout Phx that well before this game. ball movement was crisp, not seen that type of team passing in a long time. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
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FredG Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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stare_at_GOATs wrote: | FredG wrote: | stare_at_GOATs wrote: | FredG wrote: | Tonight was Phoenix's night. Nothing the Lakers could really do. |
Yeah, except, like, play defense or something. |
Sometimes you just gotta tip your cap. They made everything tonight. |
Tipping your hat to the 118 from Denver also?
It's just bad defense. Any good shooter can hit wide-open shots. |
yea but denver only made 7 threes and they've been known to tee off on the Lakers in Denver. _________________ Just Say No To "Thread Crapping" |
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KINGD Star Player
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venturalakersfan wrote: | KINGD wrote: | Pau with another pathetic showing. Idiots blaming the dude who had 25/14/9/1 on excellent efficiency. Idiots. |
8 turnovers is the exact opposite of efficiency. |
14 assists and 11-20 shooting. Beast. |
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FredG Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Phoenix was on point tonight. Everything flowed...including the ball into the basket. _________________ Just Say No To "Thread Crapping" |
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TampaChamp1688 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Well, at least there is the Laker Girls calendar shoot to look forward too. _________________ Bryant, putting the moves on Christie…rebound O'Neal…coming up short…Horry…for the win…YEESSSSSSSSSS -- Marv Albert |
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Drifts Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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bryantest wrote: | How the hell Lamar got a technical? |
brain freeze...he taught it was still november of 2009 _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
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Drifts Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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FredG wrote: | Phoenix was on point tonight. Everything flowed...including the ball into the basket. |
even played better defense than they normally do _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it." |
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FredG Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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Drifts wrote: | bryantest wrote: | How the hell Lamar got a technical? |
brain freeze...he taught it was still november of 2009 |
poor refereeing. no way that tech should have been called. _________________ Just Say No To "Thread Crapping" |
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nash kills pau and fish by driving inside and layup easily |
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dood23 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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every suns player should've gotten a T at some point if you wanted to call one on LO like that. |
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LakerLanny Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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dood23 wrote: | every suns player should've gotten a T at some point if you wanted to call one on LO like that. |
That is what I hate about that type of call, it gives the already bad officials even more leeway to screw up games.
If that was a T, then you have to call the one a minute later when Phoenix had a big reaction to a call.
If you aren't going to be consistent with it, then don't call the first one. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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the_pharmacist Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe almost got a quadruple double tonight;
25 pts, 14 ast, 9 rbs and 8 turnovers |
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KINGD Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe=MVP
25 pts, 14 assists, 9 rebounds, 1 steal on 11-20 shooting.
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bryantest Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLanny wrote: | dood23 wrote: | every suns player should've gotten a T at some point if you wanted to call one on LO like that. |
That is what I hate about that type of call, it gives the already bad officials even more leeway to screw up games.
If that was a T, then you have to call the one a minute later when Phoenix had a big reaction to a call.
If you aren't going to be consistent with it, then don't call the first one. |
Rules are Rules.
Besides taking into context the strict officiating, did you really expect an official will let a player argue with him over a non-call and NOT give him a T over it during last minutes of the game? |
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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KINGD wrote: | Pau with another pathetic showing. Idiots blaming the dude who had 25/14/9/1 on excellent efficiency. Idiots. |
don't forget the 8 turnovers and who was guarding j rich??
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