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Which Would You Rather See On Our Team? |
Derek "0.4" Fisher |
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Derek Anderson |
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OscarWang Star Player
Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 4129
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:14 am Post subject: Fisher or Derek Anderson |
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Let's run em dowm:
Fisher-
Knows the triangle
Best Friends With Kobe
PJ Loves Him
Tough Defender
Can shoot the 0.4 second shot
Anderson:
Multi-guard
Comes great in clutch situations
Great if he is healthy
Good Defender
Shoots the 3-Ball well
Good fit for Lakers, Kobe
In another case, we can always grab
Lue:
Played With Lakers Before
Knows Triangle
Can Shut Down Players, Amazing Defender
Quick
Can shoot well
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Personally, I think we should get Lue (and maybe release Sasha). Then, we should see who drops. I think both (D-Fish and DA) would be great players on our team. Question with D-Fish is: Is he able to really go into that starting role again? Question with DA is will he play? He only played 47 games last year, and 51 before that.
I think it will come down to who gets dropped, and maybe who gets dropped first. We can always go after Lue (and we still have Smash), but if both DA and Fisher arn't dropped, we should go after them via Sign and Trade.
I can imagine a backcourt: DA or DFish/Lue/Smush/Sasha(?)
Well of course...if we can't get anybody....
there is always...
Sasha |
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orwell Star Player
Joined: 28 Apr 2001 Posts: 8203 Location: 90210
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:27 am Post subject: |
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IMO, we need a Derek Anderson/Tyron Lue combo. _________________ A proud member of LakersGround.net for over 10 years [since April 28, 2001] |
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Laker_Dynasty Franchise Player
Joined: 21 May 2001 Posts: 11831 Location: West LA
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Why not both? The only way we would be able to pick up DA or Fish would be if they get waived under the "amnesty" rule (aka Alan Houston Rule).
That being said, D. Fish would be good coming off the bench, much like when we won our first championship.
Only question in my mind is how good DA's ball handling and dribbling skills are. From seeing him play on the Clips and in Portland, I'm not convinced that he's that great of a ball handler. I could be wrong, but just curious if anybody has further viewpoints on DA's skills in that respect. _________________ Just chill and watch the new Dynasty evolve...
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Redlight20 Starting Rotation
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 280
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:31 am Post subject: |
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love fish ..but DA is a NEED more than a WANT. |
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PopcornMachine Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:34 am Post subject: |
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As much as I love Fish, I think at this time it would be good to move in a new direction.
If Anderson is healthy and can play defense at the 1, then his versatility might be very valuable. _________________
I'm with COCO! |
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bambam Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:36 am Post subject: |
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how about both |
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RoughneckPS3 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:39 am Post subject: |
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orwell wrote: | IMO, we need a Derek Anderson/Tyron Lue combo. |
That would be my pick. Lue is assured of at least 20 starts during the year with DA as our regular starter.
Still, a point guard rotation of Anderson/Lue would be 10x better (defensively) than a starting pg rotation of Chucky/Tierre. _________________ Black Panther is Batman, done better. |
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Tanlentueux Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Love Fish. Respect the Dud. But he's done! Bring on D. And ! |
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Vlade Star Player
Joined: 08 May 2005 Posts: 2373 Location: valley of dry bone dreams
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Laker_Dynasty wrote: | Why not both? The only way we would be able to pick up DA or Fish would be if they get waived under the "amnesty" rule (aka Alan Houston Rule).
That being said, D. Fish would be good coming off the bench, much like when we won our first championship.
Only question in my mind is how good DA's ball handling and dribbling skills are. From seeing him play on the Clips and in Portland, I'm not convinced that he's that great of a ball handler. I could be wrong, but just curious if anybody has further viewpoints on DA's skills in that respect. |
good point... and I am still confused as to whether these amnesty cuts can "double dip" with their salaries.... I believe that they can, but I read an article recently (I think on Hoopsworld?) that said that whatever contract they sign reduces the amount paid by their original team. If that is the case, then there is no reason why any amnesty cut would ask for more than the min... unless there is some kind of secret deal where the Lakers convince a team to cut a guy by pledging to pay more than the min... of course this all assumes that double-dipping is forbidden... if not, then all bets are off...
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:42 am Post subject: |
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I went with Anderson.
He's longer and on a team that's expected to play zone and traps, length is a key ingredient. |
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bornaLAfan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I say y not both. I was reading on another topic and a good idea was brought up.
Fisher wants to come back to La, he misses it so after he gets waived with the money he recives from golden state he would be willing to sign for the LLE. Then with the MLE we could get Anderson and if both parties would be willing maybe chroshere and him will be able to split it, they are still getting paid elsewhere but lets not get greedy.
From here we can trade either slava/cook for Lue. (slava makes more sense)
Finally trade George, Vlade, a pick and whoever is left between slava & cook for Lorenzen wright. Vlade is easy savings george is a good back to shane and the big is a big to help their semi depleted front line |
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Buck32 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:21 am Post subject: |
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What will prevent SHOES from voting 500 times for Fish and Sky deleting every single vote? |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:33 am Post subject: |
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D-Fence so D-A |
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Money$hot! Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:35 am Post subject: |
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NVE over both for vet min. |
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angel Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:40 am Post subject: |
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I like Fish. He knows the triangle very well. He's also very articulate. He can help the young guards pick up the finer points. _________________ "Darkness cannot drive out darkness. Only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate. Only love can do that." ~~Martin Luther King Jr.~~ |
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wolfpaclaker Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Money$hot! wrote: | NVE over both for vet min. |
VanExcel has a bad experience with the Lakers.
It would be like Shaq coming back here.
I think NVE rather go play for one of the top teams or atleast play for a Texas team (Houston/Dallas/SA) |
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Bystander Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Fish will be it for me. Knows tri, works well with Kobe, solid role player what triangle needs. And his defense cannot be worse than Chucky's or Sasha's, right?
DA has missed too many games last season because of variety of health reasons from migraine to back problems. |
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HateitorLoveit Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:30 am Post subject: |
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DA is taller and p jax likes big guards. |
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THEDTM Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:55 am Post subject: |
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Are you all forgetting how INJURY prone Fisher is? He did miss games last year and even had a 20 game season.
DA all the way, maybe Fish for vet min if he gets released. Fish is a BACKUP pg, PERIOD! |
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lakeshow03 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="THEDTM"]Are you all forgetting how INJURY prone Fisher is? He did miss games last year and even had a 20 game season.
are you really trying to argue for DA because fisher is injury prone?think about that one for a second...
i would like both,they both would really help this team in different ways,and to maybe pickup lue who isnt a ''amazing'' defender like the original post said but can defend the quick gaurds |
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Texas_Pete Franchise Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 12825 Location: Somewhere watching a Laker game
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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I chose DA over "Mr. 0.4 seconds". Sure Fish knows the tri, but he too is older, and besides flopping, DA is better defender. PJ likes tall guards. Teammed with Kobe, I could easily see him getting his arms in the passing lanes and disrupting offenses. (Not sure of his wingspan, but it gotta be longer than Fisher's). Also, LA will be younger at the PF position. This means that the PF could help Kobe/DA trap an Iverson or Parker and make him give up the ball. LA couldn't really trap with the 3-peat teams of AC Green, Grant, Horry and of course not with Malone b/c it would take away from their offense too. PJ did a lot of trapping with a young Grant/Stacey King/Simpkins. Lead to a lot of fast breaks too..
DA had some good games with Portland/SA/Clips vs Kobe. He left Clips for obvious reasons, left SA for more money, now he's leaving Portland. Yeah he was injury prone (so was G.Hill-like someone else said on another thread). He would definitely fit in the tri. I believe he is an upgrade over Chucky and GP the year before (although GP played the whole season. But his man won Finals MVP so forget him).
Bottom line, DA at 6'5" would be the shortest starter. Think about that. During Showtime (no I'm not comparing) their shortest player was 6'4". They rebound, and ran to 5 rings. Would have been at least 6 if not for Magic's hamstring. Not saying this squad could not do the same, but I like the possibilities presented by having a big lineup like that. There would be missmatches everywhere after double teams.
With all that being said DA should come back to LA.... |
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Money$hot! Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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wolfpaclaker wrote: | Money$hot! wrote: | NVE over both for vet min. |
VanExcel has a bad experience with the Lakers.
It would be like Shaq coming back here.
I think NVE rather go play for one of the top teams or atleast play for a Texas team (Houston/Dallas/SA) |
Like Shaq coming back? Come on Wolf, thats a bit extreme. I think he'd rather go to a Texas team too (heck maybe even Phoenix), but I'd still like to see him and his clutchness back for 15-20 min a night. |
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HawaiianPunch Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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I voted for Fish. More durable, can step in from Day 1 and run the offense, and has a sweet shot.
I dont know when DA became a good defender, I must have missed that one. |
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THEMAN32 Rookie
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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I gote to go with D Fish.. He can teach sasha how to play defense .. And there is no learning curve for the triangle... |
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Walter Sobchak Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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LA could possibly get both, you know. Fish might very much want to come back to the Lakers, even for the vet min. if he gets waived, you never know. _________________ "People don't think it be like it is, but it do." - Oscar Gamble
Just a reminder folks: "a lot" is two words. So is "no one". |
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