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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject:

Basically the Lakers bracket and Celtics bracket starts on Monday - wraps on Saturday - nothing more beyond released
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:09 pm    Post subject:

Perfect. That would mean that the schedule would have to follow the traditional every other day formant.

Game 1 - Monday
Game 2 - Wednsday
Game 3 - Friday
Game 4 -Sunday
Game 5 - Tuesday
Game 6 - Thursday
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject:

emplay wrote:
Basically the Lakers bracket and Celtics bracket starts on Monday - wraps on Saturday - nothing more beyond released


very pleased the guys get a week off regardless!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:20 pm    Post subject:

Its not always every other day. Sometimes there are two days inbetween games.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:26 pm    Post subject:

Anyone else remember how well Josh Powell played against Yao? I'd like to see him get some minutes if we get Houston.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject:

So is there no way to get tickets to Game 3 or 4 since Houston hasn't officially won yet? I really want to go to one of those games and would like to take care of it ASAP.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject:

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How come we aren't facing Dallas? Good thing it is on Monday, I have to go camping over the weekend.


NBA doesn't re-seed (unlike the NHL) so the Lakers are locked into playing the winner of the 4/5 match-up, as opposed to the worst remaining seed (Dallas).


Never really liked NBA that system of a locked bracket. It diminishes the advantage of the 1st seeding. In a 4/5 matchup either team could have a shot and there isn't likely a big difference in the caliber of the team. The team you get is either a 4 or 5.

However, the 2nd seed has a shot at seeing a 6th seed (as will happen with whomever Dallas faces) if there's an upset, and a 3rd seed could find themselves playing a 7th seed in the second round.

So there's a good chance that either 3rd seed or 2nd seed sees easier competition than the 1st.

Not a good system in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject:

Lakers For Life wrote:
Its not always every other day. Sometimes there are two days inbetween games.


True, but if that happens then the series couldn't end on Saturday.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:54 pm    Post subject:

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that sucks! a whole week off?? no weekend Laker Playoff game? BUMMER!!! Watch out for that GAME 1 , too much layover NO GOOD!


Naw this is good. More time for Drew, Luke and Trevor to mend.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject:

BTW, it's definitely Monday at 7:30. It's on the Lakers Ticket Exchange and they don't put games up until the date and time unless it is official.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject:

Plus Fish, Gasol and Kobe. Even if the Lakers come out shooting cold, they'll overall be better rested for the whole series.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:33 pm    Post subject:

Thank you emplay.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:51 pm    Post subject:

Doesn't ABC then ESPN pick games first. Won't they want a Sunday Laker game as it will be higer rating than Monday? There is too many end of season prime time show for them not to want the Lakers on Sunday.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
raffi wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
How come we aren't facing Dallas? Good thing it is on Monday, I have to go camping over the weekend.


NBA doesn't re-seed (unlike the NHL) so the Lakers are locked into playing the winner of the 4/5 match-up, as opposed to the worst remaining seed (Dallas).


Never really liked NBA that system of a locked bracket. It diminishes the advantage of the 1st seeding. In a 4/5 matchup either team could have a shot and there isn't likely a big difference in the caliber of the team. The team you get is either a 4 or 5.

However, the 2nd seed has a shot at seeing a 6th seed (as will happen with whomever Dallas faces) if there's an upset, and a 3rd seed could find themselves playing a 7th seed in the second round.

So there's a good chance that either 3rd seed or 2nd seed sees easier competition than the 1st.

Not a good system in my opinion.


So does Dallas kind of count as the #3 seed since they beat the #3 seed? If the #8 seed beat the #1 seed, then would the #8 seed count as the #1 seed and face the #5 seed instead of the #2 seed?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject:

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So does Dallas kind of count as the #3 seed since they beat the #3 seed? If the #8 seed beat the #1 seed, then would the #8 seed count as the #1 seed and face the #5 seed instead of the #2 seed?


Nope.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject:

I can live with a possible cold shooting 1st quarter so that Fish, Kobe, Gasol, Walton can get some rest/recover, and so Drew can round back into form.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
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So does Dallas kind of count as the #3 seed since they beat the #3 seed? If the #8 seed beat the #1 seed, then would the #8 seed count as the #1 seed and face the #5 seed instead of the #2 seed?


Nope.


Actually, Candy is partially correct.

As Mule pointed out, Dallas is not considered the #3 seed - they would remain the #6 seed but are guaranteed to play the 2/7 winner.

As to Candy's second point, the #8 seed would not become the #1 seed, but would face the winner of the 4/5 match-up as opposed to the #2 seed.

Assuming the Lakers (#1), Denver (#2), Houston (#5) and Dallas (#6) advance, as we've pointed out a few times already, the match-ups are Lakers/Houston and Denver/Dallas. To Candy's first point, since all of the seeds remain the same, Dallas would never have homecourt against any of the remaining teams. Similarly, Houston would only have homecourt if they advanced and faced Dallas in the conference finals.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject:

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Doesn't ABC then ESPN pick games first. Won't they want a Sunday Laker game as it will be higer rating than Monday? There is too many end of season prime time show for them not to want the Lakers on Sunday.


Looks like the league's desire to stick with the current scheduling alignment trumped a Lakers game on Sunday. Plus, TNT is a pretty important partner as well. They're giving ABC Lebron or a possible 7th game.

The Sunday games will be Denver/Dallas and Cleveland/Miami or Atlanta (or the 7th game of the Miami/Atl series).
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raffi wrote:
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CandyCanes wrote:

So does Dallas kind of count as the #3 seed since they beat the #3 seed? If the #8 seed beat the #1 seed, then would the #8 seed count as the #1 seed and face the #5 seed instead of the #2 seed?


Nope.


Actually, Candy is partially correct.

As Mule pointed out, Dallas is not considered the #3 seed - they would remain the #6 seed but are guaranteed to play the 2/7 winner.

As to Candy's second point, the #8 seed would not become the #1 seed, but would face the winner of the 4/5 match-up as opposed to the #2 seed.

Assuming the Lakers (#1), Denver (#2), Houston (#5) and Dallas (#6) advance, as we've pointed out a few times already, the match-ups are Lakers/Houston and Denver/Dallas. To Candy's first point, since all of the seeds remain the same, Dallas would never have homecourt against any of the remaining teams. Similarly, Houston would only have homecourt if they advanced and faced Dallas in the conference finals.


I was simply referring to the point that beating a team doesn't make you suddenly the same seed as that team.

I was speaking specifically to the logic that the 1 seed doesn't get the ultimate benefit of the 1 seed in a locked bracket, but would under a reseeding scenario where the match ups are determined by original seeding and not simply on who beat whom to advance.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject:

No way Blazers win next two.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:19 pm    Post subject:

A week off is usually not a great thing for staying sharp, but the team needs the rest. A week is not too bad. After we swept the Spurs in 2001 WCFs, we had an eleven-day layoff, IIRC. It cost us game one. But that layoff was just way too long.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject:

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Nooo. Work until 2 a.m. Monday.


i work until 10
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject:

A week gives plenty of time to study Houston. And Denver for that matter.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject:

TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
A week gives plenty of time to study Houston. And Denver for that matter.


Or Dallas.
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