JAZZ -at- LAKERS - 4/27 - Thoughts and :-)) Ratings

[DancingBarry]

The First Victim... Bells cut through the night air, ringing out twelve times. Victory shines upon The Four Horsemen once again in their pursuit of Little Larry O'Brien.

With Angel at your side again, the two of you watch as the Four Horsemen pass by. Death nods again in your direction. They are battle scarred, bruised and with a few open wounds...but they are one step closer to Little Larry.

"Come on," she says, tugging your arm. "This one was to the death. Let's check out the carnage." The two of you climb over the ridge from where the Four Horsemen came. Scattered throughout the battlefield are frozen, salt statues of the little Damiens and their hell hounds. They are caught in various stages of defeat. You would not wish this upon anyone...but you find it strangely satisfying, especially after some of the blows they delivered.

Thunder rumbles from somewhere above, and the ground is slowly sprinkled with rain. As the rain picks up, the salt statues begin to melt away like ice sculptures under a midday sun. In a moment, they are wiped clean from sight.

A lone purple and gold flag stands in the battlefield. You approach it. Carved into the pole is a message from DancingBarry:

The Four Horsemen were here. The defeat of this opponent was inevitable. The Four Horsemen have taken their first victim and now await The Association's next challenge.

I will continue to track them...

Up 3-1 heading into this game, the Lakers wanted to finish off the Jazz here and now. The Lakers handled their business at Staples, outplaying the Jazz like previous games. And like previous games, a late 13-0 run cut the Lakers lead to just 6 points. They hung on to win 107-96, but it was a bitter aftertaste stuck in mouths of most players and coaches during the post game interviews.

To a man, they all understood that they have to hold the line much stronger as they advance. Still, Pau summed it up pretty well. "I think we have to play more consistent," he said. "But I'll take a 4-1 win in every series from now on until the end."

Phil had an interesting series. While the Lakers didn't have to go deep into their Triangle playbook, he changed up his rotations massively: Bynum from starter to bench. Lamar from bench back to starter; Brown over Farmar at the backup PG; And now more Sasha at SG to slide Kobe to SF with Luke's injury.

The team handled it well, overwhelming the Jazz and nearly sweeping them. Giving up late game leads, however, still lingers as an issue yet to be solved.

"Ultimately it has to come within the guys," Phil said.


Kobe -- -- Phil said he wanted to see a combo game from Kobe, points and passing. He got a decent mix from him (some great passes to Pau in transition), but not quite that ideal mix. Still, Kobe was aggresssive and made some sensational plays in this game. That fallaway to beat the shotclock while scissor kicking at the elbow at the end of the first half was amazing. Kobe got popped under the eye and had a welt and a little blood. Wouldn't be a Jazz game with some bumps and scratches. Asked if Utah exposed a weakness in the Lakers giving up leads, Kobe said "Probably. Probably. It's going to be on us to try to create some mistakes." He stressed the team needed to keep hustling. "We have a week here to have a spirited conversation with the group to see if we can't correct that." The Stats: He scored 31 points on 10-21 shooting (3-4 from three, 8-9 from the line) to go with 2 boards, 4 assists, 4 steals, 1 block, 5 turnovers and 2 fouls in 31 minutes. He was a +18. The Action: He swished a 7-footer off the drive and dish from Ariza. He missed a step-back jumper from the sideline. He blew past Boozer, elevated and was hacked by Okur as he tried to finish a sick dunk attempt, he made both FTs. He missed a line drive from the top of the key. He lobbed to Pau on the break for the dunk. He swished a wing three left open in transition. He was hacked several times in the paint and drew FTs, he made both. He missed a step-back jumper. He blew past Miles on the baseline and scored an easy And-1 layup, he made the FT. He missed a fading 15-footer. He missed a floater and was asking for the foul. He worked off the high screen, attacked and rode it in for a layup. He threw a kickout out of bounds. He attacked and missed a layup, wondering where the whistle was. He set up Pau for FTs with a bounce pass off the two-man game. He grabbed a loose ball, turned and swished a 15-footer while scissor kicking as he fell to the floor to beat the shotclock (crazy shot with a few seconds left in the half). He had 16 points on 5-11 shooting and 2 steals in 21 minutes. Second Half: He missed a tough baseline fade in transition. He swiped a pass under the hoop. He was fouled on an extra pass from Pau on the break, he made one FT. He was indecisive on the break and charged. He stepped through defenders on the block and went glass with the one-hander over Millsap. He leaked out for an uncontested layup, Javie tried to trip him, Kobe stayed on his feet, gathered the ball at the edge of the court and scored a layup. He drained a 28-footer over AK from the left wing. He took the behind-the-back feed from Sasha, pulled up at the three line and lobbed to Pau for the dunk. He drained an open 29-footer when Sasha was triple teamed in the corner. He missed a one-hander working the post. He missed a sideline three. He was stripped for a dunk the other way. He posted up and drew FTs, he made both. He posted up and swished a clutching fallaway to stop a 13-0 run. He ballwatched instead of going after a defensive board. He missed an off-balance runner from 12 feet out.

Gasol -- -- Pau is probably going to have flashbacks the next couple days of Boozer pushing him in the back on the defensive glass, hooking him in the post on spin moves, or using his off arm to fend away Pau's challenges. The Jazz got away with a lot of physical, foul-worthy play, but at the end of the night Boozer was finally watching from the bench with just 10 points. That's more like it. Even though the Lakers never really ran the offense through him, Pau still managed to put up some respectable numbers. He did a good job running the floor for some easy points. He got to the line with consistency. And, he would draw a lot of doubles when he got the ball in the post. The Lakers needed to do a better job cutting off him to allow him to either go iso against his man or to feed the cutters. A little too much standing around for threes when they did go into the post. The Stats: He scored 17 points on 6-13 shooting (5-8 from the line) to go with 11 boards (3 offensive), 4 assists, 1 turnover and 4 fouls in 36 minutes. He was a +9. The Action: He scored a layup off the lob from Ariza. He missed a face-up jumper from the right wing. He missed a jumphook over Okur. He threw down a lob from Kobe on the break. He saved a bad entry pass to Sasha in the corner for a three. He attacked across the middle of the lane and hit Ariza for the three. He missed an awkward turnaround off the glass (looked like he forced that one because he hadn't had a shot for a while). He fumbled away a post entry pass. He was drilled on the two-man game with Kobe for FTs, he made both. He scored 6 points on 2-6 shooting to go with 4 boards. Second Half: He scored a layup when Lamar hit him off an offensive board. Boozer got away with a three-second call and using an off arm to get to the FT line, picking up Pau's third foul. He took an interior feed and was fouled under the hoop, he made one but got his miss back. He missed a lefty jumphook off the glass and wanted the foul. He made a short turnaround. He hustled down court and Kobe lobbed to him in transition for the dunk. He hit a 16-footer flashing to the ball. He missed a fading elbow jumper out of a timeout. He was fouled by Okur under the hoop when the Jazz were scrambling, he made one FT. He was fouled at midcourt, he made one FT.

Lamar -- -- How great was LO in this series? He finished the Jazz off with a 26/15 game and a +17. His mobility, length and his inside-out game was just too much for the Jazz. Combine that with the little things like bringing the ball up court in the guard spot, making quick passes or posting up smaller guys like Harpring and he was too much of a load for the Jazz. I think Lamar hit the nail on the head about this late game run. He thought the run happened because the rotations went too long, with one group getting tired, the other group getting a little cold. The Lakers get a little lazy when they have the big lead. You throw in a gassed lineup with long stints from your guards and it's just asking for more trouble. You bring back in LO or Gasol at the PF post for Powell a little sooner and perhaps you don't have that big of a breakdown. Phil said Bynum may start the next series, so it will be up to Lamar to bring it once again from the bench. Hopefully, we can still play him 38-40 minutes, instead of 28. The Stats: He scored 26 points on 10-15 shooting (2-4 from three, 4-6 from the line) to go with 15 boards (5 offensive), 4 assists, 3 blocks, 3 turnovers and 2 fouls in 38 minutes. He was a +17. The Action: He attacked to his left, changed directions in the lane and scored a layup with his right after losing Boozer. He picked up his first foul midway through the first quarter when Millsap tried to create, but avoided fouls the rest of the half. He was swatted on a drive, points the other way. He drained an early offense wing three. He swatted Millsap in the paint to help Pau at the hoop. He scored a layup on the break after Trevor swatted a drive. He missed a corner three. He drained a wing three with a man on and the shotclock going off. He overpowered Harpring for an offensive board, then banked in a tricky one hander over him. He missed a wing jumper in early offense. He flipped in a layup on the break when Trevor hit him trailing. He overpowered Harpring in the post for FTs, he made both. He had 16 points on 6-9 shooting, 8 boards and 2 blocks in 20 minutes. Second Half: He blocked AK's drive. He lost Boozer on a crossover and finger rolled a layup. He missed a wing three. He drew FTs getting hacked by Boozer on a layup attempt, he made both. He missed a jumphook from a couple feet away. Bad lob to Shannon on the break, but Lamar tipped it back in. He threw down an And-1 dunk on the break, he missed the FT. He got stripped on a defensive board to lose possession late in the game. He threw down an And-1 dunk with 11 seconds left, Staples sang goodbye to the Jazz while LO went to the FT line and missed.

Ariza -- -- "We can't give up big leads like that," Trevor said. "That's been our problem all year. If we are trying to get to where were trying to go, we can't do that." At least the Lakers will have something to think about between series. You kept wondering just how injured Trevor was in this game. At moments, he looked to be hobbling up and down the court. Then, he'd rise up to throw down off an offensive board...or chase down Williams and swat him at the rim. There were stretches where he seemed to be looking to make the extra pass rather than try to finish. That may be where he throttled back his game some. He said his ankle loosened up as the game went on. With Luke out, Trevor had to watch the foul trouble. It struck early in the third and he had to sit for Sasha. Hopefully, the time off between series will help heal up our SF spot, but Trevor will likely have a few more games where his role becomes magnified with Luke out. The Stats: He scored 12 points on 4-6 shooting (2-4 from three, 2-4 from the line) to go with 7 boards, 4 assists, 1 steal, 2 blocks, 4 turnovers and 4 fouls in 28 minutes. The Action: He attacked baseline and hit Kobe for the short jumper. Next time down he lobbed to Pau for the layup. His next pass was picked off for a score the other way. He swished a 17-footer from the right corner. He over-passed under the rim, turnover. He swatted Deron from behind at the front of the rim. He flushed down a missed LO three, getting up high. He swished an open three on the kickout from Pau. He pushed out a rebound, no one stopped the ball and he was fouled on an And-1 layup attempt he thought he should have had, he made one FT. He took an outlet in transition and hit a trailing Lamar for the score. He had 8 points on 3-3 shooting, 6 boards, 4 assists, 3 turnovers in 17 minutes. Second Half: He missed a corner three. He rattled down a corner three on his next attempt. He picked up his third and fourth fouls after 4 minutes and had to sit for Sasha. Back in after a long break, he missed a three, camping out at the three line for a kickout strongside, instead of cutting to let Pau go to work on iso. Good hustle back in transition D to stop a break and get fouled for FTs, he made one.

Fisher -- -- DFish had a quiet second half until Phil dusted him off to come back in late to help restore some order. He sank a series of freethrows, hit LO for an And-1 dunk and finished it off with a show down with Price while defending the win. A lot of the lead blowing from this team seems to be from a lack of vet leadership. The vets usually get a little loose, the execution gets sloppy, the perimeter chucks pick up. Combine that with some soft D and you see a lot of the runs that typically happen to the Lakers. The Laker guards survived this series, but finished it off well. Deron Williams only scored 14 points on 4-12 shooting with just 6 assists and 4 turnovers. Deron was a -16. Those are some excellent numbers from a Laker perspective. The Stats: He scored 9 points on 2-5 shooting (0-2 from three, 5-6 from the line) to go with 1 board, 3 assists, 1 steal and 4 fouls in 29 minutes. He was a +12. The Action: He missed a wing pull-up jumper in transition. He missed a corner three. He took the handoff from Pau and scored the layup. He forced a three when Pau kicked out and a man was all over him, needed to make the extra pass on that one. He swished a pull-up baseline jumper next time down. Excellent read on one of the Jazz's favorite screen sequences and he swiped the ball from Boozer under the hoop. Second Half: Nice job stepping in front of a drive to force a miss. He hit LO with a great bounce pass in transition for an And-1 dunk. He sank a tech FT. He was fouled intentionally, he made one FT. He was fouled again, he sank the FTs. He then challenged Price who was trying to throw down with 6 seconds left and the two had a brief stare down. Derek hit a tech FT, Price went fishing.

Bynum -- -- Another limited-minute game from Bynum. Phil used him as backup C to Pau and kept it to that. "He didn't catch up to the speed of the game," Phil said. He mentioned the Jazz went right at him in this series because of that. Bynum hasn't been going after that low post position, especially early in offense. That's the most effective part of his game, and he needs to get back to it. Tonight, he was typically 9-10 feet away from the hoop. He needs to set up lower, work weak to strong, and fight for that position. Impose your size, Drew. He will be more important in the next series, regardless of whom the Lakers play. Hopefully, we can get him back to impact ball again. "More than likely I would put him right back in the starting lineup in those situations," Phil said. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 0-3 shooting (2-2 from the line) to go with 5 boards (3 offensive), 1 block and 2 fouls in 12 minutes. He was a +2. The Action: He rejected dribble penetration. He missed a jumphook over a double team. He was a +10 in those short minutes. Second Half: He gave up an And-1 to Millsap to start the fourth. Nice box out on Millsap to force him out of bounds and get the board (rare we see that). He missed a 14-footer, but got it back. He was hacked under the hoop, he made both FTs. He missed a long jumphook. He was taken off the dribble by Millsap for a layup.

Brown -- -- "He's a wonderful young player," Sloan said of Brown after this series. Shannon killed the Jazz early in this series, especially with his three shooting. Tonight was probably his least effective game. He got tapped on a couple of jumpers offensively, mostly good shots. Defensively, however, Ronnie Price came off the bench and gave the Jazz some spark himself to cut down our lead. Shannon seemed to be taken by surprise and not match the energy. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-5 shooting (0-2 from three) to go with 3 boards, 2 assists, 1 turnover and no fouls in 19 minutes. He was a -1. The Action: He missed a wing three in transition, dead straight but a hair long. Nice D on Deron to force him into a tough shot (he still made it, though). Second Half: He swiped the ball from Boozer and pushed out the break. He allowed his man to throwdown a putback jam. Price drained a jumper on him next time down. He got completely tapped on a pull-up three at the third quarter buzzer. He missed a pull-up 15-footer. He attacked baseline for a reverse.

Vujacic -- -- At one point in this game, Sasha was triple teamed on the sideline before he found an open Kobe for the long three. No, he didn't play that well -- not even close -- but it was funny to see the role reversal for a moment. He didn't settle for all threes. He missed a couple midrange jumpers, and he missed attacking off the two-man game. He needed to give up the ball more on those two-man sequences. He had bigs available on the pick and pops, but instead looked to finish in the lane...and that wasn't pretty. With Luke out, Sasha's role magnified as Kobe slid to the SF. Although, Sasha did have some minutes defending the SF himself, too. He came in early in the second half for Ariza who had foul trouble and he matched up with AK. That didn't seem to hurt the Lakers despite AK wanting the ball. After a long stint, Phil had to yank him when the lead dwindled. "We know A.B.C. Always Be Closing," the Machine said after the game. Put down that coffee Sasha. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 2-10 shooting (2-5 from three) to go with 3 boards, 1 assist, 2 steals, 1 block, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls in 24 minutes. He was a -2. The Action: Horrible pass off the two-man sequence, dunk the other way. He attacked and bricked a leaner badly. He drained a corner three when Pau saved a pass to him. He missed a running three at the end of the first quarter, nice try. He missed a wing jumper working off the screens to start the second quarter. He missed a three at the top of the arc. Next time down, no one covered him in early offense and he drilled the three. Second Half: He clanked a pull-up jumper from the FT line. AK scored an easy one on him on the other end. He missed a reverse that looked too good to be true. He hustled to the sideline for a loose ball, pushed it up and went behind his back to Kobe who threw an oop to Pau. He bricked a layup attacking off the two-man game (should have hit Pau on the pick and pop on those). He blocked Brewer while under the hoop while Sasha was on his way down. He missed an open wing three. He was stripped, then fouled trying to get it back and sat.

Powell -- -- Powell led the Lakers with a -8. With Phil keeping Bynum and Pau strictly at the C spot, this opened up some minutes for Powell at PF. He came in for Lamar to run with Bynum and Kobe in the second quarter, then later in the third as Kobe rested. Phil went a little too long with him, sitting Pau and Lamar for the first 6 minutes of the fourth. When LO and Pau came back in they had been sitting too long to get it going right away. Offensively, once again we see Powell struggling anytime he tries to create in the post, but money when he gets that spot up jumper. Look for more Pau/Bynum minutes on court together in the next series and that will erase Powell minutes. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-2 shooting to go with 3 boards, 1 assist and 1 foul. He was a -8. The Action: He was fouled while pulling down an offensive board. Second Half: We dumped the ball to him in the post and he bricked trying to create. He sank a 17-footer off the Kobe kickout.

Phil -- -- To take up the slack from Luke's injury, Phil said he planned on pulling Kobe a little sooner and bringing him back in during the second quarter at SF with Sasha still at SG... As planned, Phil's first subs were Brown and Sasha for Kobe and Fish to close the first quarter... The teams were tied 26-26 after the first. Both teams shot over 50 percent. The Lakers had 6 turnovers, which the Jazz turned into 7 points... Phil got Bynum his first minutes, starting him in the second quarter with Lamar, Kobe, Sasha and Brown... He brought in Powell for Lamar after a couple minutes... The Lakers build an 11-point lead, but had it cut down to 8 and Phil called a timeout to bring back in Pau and LO. They turned the ball over on the play out of the timeout... The Lakers won the third quarter 30-17 and led 56-43 at the half. The Jazz made 16-40 (40 percent), the Lakers 20-42 (47 percent). The Lakers made 6-12 from three, the Jazz 2-7... Every Laker in the first half that played had a positive +/- number... "We're going to increase the intensity on this team," Hamblen said... With Ariza picking up two fouls in the first 4 minutes, Phil brought in Sasha and put him on AK... The Lakers won the third 26-20. Some up-tempo action that had the Jazz on their heels. They led 82-63 heading into the fourth... Phil started a Bynum, Powell, Kobe, Sasha, Brown lineup again... The Lakers maintained that lead for a few minutes then started to slack off, giving up layups and easy scores along with careless turnovers. The Jazz chipped away at the 20-point lead... Phil brought back in Pau, Lamar and Trevor for Bynum, Powell and Kobe. A timeout came shortly later at the 6-minute mark... 13-0 Jazz run... Phil brought back in the complete starting lineup. They were still giving up offensive boards and easy hoops... Trailing now by just 6 points with 3:15 left, Sloan brought back in Deron Williams to run with Price. The Lakers finally shut the run down... The Lakers shot 45 percent to the Jazz's 40 percent. The Lakers out-rebounded them 50-43 and had an 8-1 advantage in shotblocking... Not a lot of minutes for Bynum in these last two games. Regardless of whom the Lakers play in the next series, Bynum will get more minutes. The Lakers will need their size. Bynum needs to step it up, too. Speed-wise, you may even see Farmar back in the mix with Houston's speedy point... Sidenote: Former Laker player (1957-63) and one of Chickie's broadcast partners, Hot Rod Hundley announced his last game tonight. He had broadcast Jazz games since 1974. Very nice to see his last game here was in front of the team he came to the league with. Staples gave him a nice ovation...

Game Flow -- LINK -- Great second quarter, good start to the half...then the you're-killing-me 13-0 run for the Jazz midway through the fourth. That was the Jazz only real run of the game.

[Vishnu]

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[ksmgf]

Second Thanks DB

[10scott10]

I really hope that bynum's struggles towards the end of this series was just his inability to guard players so much smaller and quicker than him (especially with the added effort and sluggishness caused by the brace). However, he made plenty of bone head plays that he will have to work on clearing up before he is ready to deal with Yao.

The key to next series as well as probably the who play-offs is Lamar. doesn't this sound familiar, but he is playing great so far and is really starting to take advantage of the natural mismatches that he creates.


As to our probable next round foes of the Rockets, Ron artest is really their key. when he decides to play a good team game and involve Yao, they are great. but all too often he seems to think he is kobe/ray allen/ Jordan wrapped up into a single package and shoot his team out of the game with ill-advised threes and start ignoring Yao.

[RhodyRay]

Bynum was a complete waste in this series. I don't like what I see from him. Hopefully he will be 100% more useful against the Lakers next opponent. I also still don't like the stupid mistakes and turnovers the Lakers are making. Kobe must quit trying to split defenders when he is dribbling because tonight he turned the ball over several times because of it.

Overall the Lakers beat the Jazz in 5 which I predicted that they would. I don't like the fact that they should have won game four--but 4-1 win an onto round two is better than being 2-2 like the Celtics and Bulls. Time for this team to get some good practice in and rest up from injuries. Hopefully they can take out the Rockets in 5 as well. IF it is the Blazers--that is going to be a longer haul!
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[Ray_Gonzoles]

4 down, 12 to go. Looks like it will be Houston in the next round. Perhaps Bynum will have a better series, the team will need him.
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Anything less than a championship is a failure. Period.

[mhan00]

[lakerfn4lfe]

Last year at this time, we swept 4 fairly easily games from Denver, followed by another easy series with Utah and San Antonio. By the time we got to Boston in the finals, our over confidence led to some very sloppy losses. Hopefully this first series is a wake up call and we can get stronger with each series and by the time we play in the finals we are at our best.

Without question, this was not our best. Not even close!

[Sage_10]

Well, they won. That's all I'll say. Thanks DB!
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[limchrc]

Thanks, nice closeout win.

[angrypuppy]

[stillmatic]

thanks DB.

@ Sasha being triple team'd and dishing to Kobe for the open 3! haha

[Mr. EiGhTy-OnE]

L.O. was a BEAST. How much you wanna bet that the play where Kobe got whacked in the face, was a no-call? I dont care about the blown lead, just happy for the closeout win.
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[Dr. Laker]

[Burgundy]

Here's why the Lakers gave up that 22 pt lead:

Phil trotted out a line-up of Bynum, Powell, Kobe, Sasha, & Brown to start the 4th Q, and left them in there for SIX FREAKING MINUTES.

Who, exactly, is the creator in that group? Kobe? At this point, Kobe was in full "showman" mode, which lead to two sloppy turnovers when he over-dribbled trying to create a "wow" shot for himself instead of making the smart play.

No one on the court wanted to play defense, either - Bynum being the biggest offender. At the beginning of the 4th Q, he established low post position on offense, asked for the ball, didn't get it...then decided to stop trying. He allowed Millsap (Utah's back-up 4, who is a good 4-5 inches shorter) to score TEN STRAIGHT POINTS ON HIM. I know Millsap is quicker, but at least give him a hard foul to send a message. GOOD LORD.

Also, Brown, who has been playing with such great energy, relaxed, and Ronnie Price took advantage going right at him.

Sasha decided to continue to try to "create" shots for himself, with zero success.

I know a huge complaint was they should have been going inside to Bynum, but the two times they did, Bynum, literally fumbled the ball away because he wasn't engaged in the game (or Kwame Brown secretly switched hands with him while he wasn't looking).

I hate to say it, but if you switch Luke for Powell (or Sasha), the ball would have moved better on offense, and the lead probably wouldn't have dwindled so rapidly.

Part of this is on Phil - he's had a whole season with these guys. He should know which lineups work, and which don't work. That fourth quarter lineup (unless Kobe went Nova) was not a lineup that was going to work.

[ecksor]

Thanks, DB
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[prisma8slg]

thanks DB.

the javie play was
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"I've seen it all. Sasha dunked on somebody," Kobe Bryant said. "I'm ready to retire now."

[bryants2hot2handle]

thanks DB

[PopcornMachine]

[RCS926]

Drew provided zero effort on the court last night, and that's inexcusable. He needs to quit focusing on getting his touches and realize that the team needs him to grab boards and clog up the paint. At this point, he doesn't seem the slightest bit interested in doing either. That needs to change ASAP.

[LakerSanity]

[DancingBarry]

[Sister Golden Hair]

[RCS926]