GRIZZLIES -at- LAKERS - 3/28 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

[DancingBarry]

S.O.S... The Lakers need help...badly. Losing back-to-back home games to two of the worst road teams in the league, that's something the Rudy Three team a few years ago might have done. Wait a sec, this roster looks about the same...Mihm, Kobe, Lamar...soft on D and chucking up crazy numbers of threes. What year is it again?

We shot 15-45 from three trying to shoot over the zone. Defensively, we weren't stopping much anything. Our only hope seemed to be trying to outscore the opponent, yet we were inept against a very soft zone. All of that...strangely familiar habits of years past.

The Laker D was soft inside and out. "There was way too much penetration," Phil said. The lane was wide open all game.

Kobe dropped 53 points, but the Lakers lost to the Grizzlies 114-111. The Grizzlies lost 19 of their last 20 road games before this one. We're bleeding badly and losing ground. Pau might not get the rest we were hoping.

The Lakers did get Chris Mihm back in this game. But as with all such Laker injury news, there appears to be a price to pay. We learned DFish has torn a ligament in his foot.



Kobe -- -- Kobe started off lighting things up. This looked to be a night he as going to put up big numbers. The three ball was dropping. He was getting to the line. Then the Grizzlies went to the zone. He didn't make a freethrow after the first quarter, only taking and missing one the rest of the way. He was the only Laker to get occasional penetration as the offense settled to shoot over the zone. The 9-17 shooting from three, was one attempt under his record-setting night against Seattle back in 2003. The Stats: He scored 53 points, shooting 19-37 (9-17 from three, 6-7 from the line). The Action: He missed an early offense wing jumper. He hit a 10-footer flashing to the strong side. He drained a corner three. He pumpfaked Miller into FTs, he made both. He got blocked by Darko on a jumper. He swished a three on a kickout from LO. He drew FTs pushing out the break, he made both. He airballed a jumper and wanted the foul. He missed a wing jumper. He knocked down a three when his man went under the screen. He swished a wing three on the next possession. He missed a hurried jumper over Crit. He sank another wing three, just money now. He missed his next three, hesitating before shooting it. He posted up, spun baseline on Crit, hung and drew FTs on the help, he made both. Kobe had 23 points on 6-12 shooting (5-6 from three, 6-6 from the line) in the first half...er, quarter. He couldn't put back in a Fish miss, rushing it a bit. He spun away from a double team, attacked and was called for the charge against a third defender. He finished an alley-oop from Lamar. He picked up a foul getting caught in the air on a three-shooter. He swished a baseline jumper before the double team could arrive. He sank a wing three out of the timeout. He ballfaked off the dribble to freeze a defender and scored a layup. He got tapped on a long three, he got it back, attacked and missed a scoop in the lane, he wanted FTs. He split a double team with a spin, got tripped, faded on one foot and banked the And-1, he missed the FT. Sensational behind-the-back pass, like a rocket from the FT line to Vlad under the hoop for FTs. He missed a wide open corner three, wow, too open. He missed a long three. He had 34 points on 11-22 shooting (6-10 from three, 6-7 from the line) for 34 points. Second Half: He drained a step-back wing jumper after our first play of the half busted. He was left open for a three on the next possession and he swished it. He picked up his third foul on the other end, just a minute into the half. He drained an early offense three from the wing. He missed a long three, this time over the zone. He pushed out the Mbenga block, saw an opening, attacked it and dunked. He sank a sideline three like a freethrow on his next attempt. He missed a fade, trying to hang in the lane. He got back-doored by Miller after ballwatching. He missed a fading pull-up with the shotclock low. He missed an open three. He had 47 points after three quarters. He hit a turnaround after getting dribble penetration. He banked from 12 feet out in transition. He missed a three on iso. He stripped Darko to ignite a break. He attacked, got contact, missed, got it back and scored. He drew the D and kicked to Sasha for three. He missed a three.

Lamar -- -- Lamar was sent home sick earlier in the day. "He wasn't as bouncy as I like to see him," Phil said of Lamar. Phil ended up giving him a long rest in the final quarter, pretty much not playing him in the fourth until two minutes left. And, as such things go with this team, Lamar had the key shot attempt down by 2 in the final minute and he couldn't knock down the open three. We missed his energy out there, yet he still managed to backdoor a double-double despite only scoring 2 points. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-7 shooting (0-2 from three, both in the final minute) to go with 11 boards, 11 assists, 1 steal, 2 blocks, 2 turnovers and 3 fouls in 37 minutes. The Action: He missed a 20-footer. He hit Kobe in the corner for three. He threw a pass away trying to hit Kobe on the bust out. He kicked out to Kobe for a three. He swished a midranger off a pass from Mbenga. He got blocked after a nice spin move to lose a man. He walked Gay under the rim, took the offensive board, but didn't go up with it and threw it away. He swatted Crit without leaving the ground. He swatted Crit again, this time from behind to save a hoop in transition. Quick lob pass to Kobe under the hoop against a smaller man for a score. He bricked badly trying to go glass from the left side. He got into the middle of the zone and fed Ronny for a layup. He had 2 points on 1-4 shooting, 7 rebounds and 2 blocks. Second Half: He fouled a three-shooter. Rare attack of the zone and he kicked out to Sasha for three. After resting most of the fourth, Phil brought him back in with 2 minutes left. He attacked and kicked out to Sasha for another three. He got tapped on a three from the corner down by 2 points and with the game on the line in the final minute. He got blocked on a three from the top of the key.

Fisher -- -- DFish has a partial tear in a tendon in his right foot. He's going to play through it but we'll have to see how that goes. So far, not great. We need an anchor and some clogging the lane because our perimeter D is under siege. Phil said he's going to try to limit DFish's minutes if he can. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 2-7 shooting (0-2 from three) to go with 3 boards, 5 assists, 3 steals, 1 turnover and 2 fouls. The Action: Great help D rotation to deflect the entry pass to Darko. He missed an 18-footer. He pulled down the board, pushed it out and hit a top-of-the-key jumper intransition. He bricked a baseline jumper badly over the zone. He missed a three. He had 2 points on 1-4 shooting. Second Half: He missed a corner jumper over the zone. He hit a teardrop after splitting defenders with a spin. He missed an early offense three.

Radmanovic -- -- For a while in this game, Vlad was the only player able to put up some points besides Kobe. It was ridiculous. Defensively, Vlad and Luke aren't stopping anyone any time soon. Losing to Memphis, with Gay going for 28 points, time to take a shot with Newble. Can we do any worse? Hard to imagine. The Stats: He scored 9 points on 3-8 shooting (1-5 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 5 boards, 3 assists, 1 block and no fouls in 24 minutes. The Action: He swatted Warrick from behind and controlled it. He missed a wing three. He curled off the screen, took the pass and scored the easy layup. Nice tip in from a couple feet out of a Ronny miss. He drew FTs when Kobe set him up with a nasty behind-the-back pass, he made the FTs. He missed a wide open wing jumper against the zone. He missed an open wing three. He had 6 points on 2-6 shooting (0-3 from three) to go with 5 boards. Second Half: He fell asleep and gave Darko a dunk on a spin move when a double came. He missed a wide open three. He sank a corner three in early offense.

Turiaf -- -- The runway was wide open for takeoff and our bigs weren't big enough to put a halt to it. Ronny had some crazy rebound numbers, all his boards came on the offensive glass where he was active and playing big. Defensively, he didn't get single board. Shooting-wise, we've got absolutely no low post presence unless Kobe and Lamar get in there. Ronny suffered from a bit of foul trouble in this game. The Stats: He scored 6 points on 3-10 shooting, 6 boards (all offensive), 3 assists, 1 steal, 3 blocks, 1 turnover and 5 fouls in 25 minutes. The Action: He missed a 20-footer. He threw a pass away. He picked up his second foul with 7:16 left in the first and had to sit. He missed a turnaround. He missed a short one in traffic. He drew a clear-out foul challenging Lowry nicely. He swatted Conley's penetration. He choked a putback dunk that was a gimmie. He reversed after taking some contact. Long stint and he finally picked up his third foul and had to sit with 25 seconds left in the half. He had 2 points on 1-7 shooting, 2 boards, 2 assists and 1 block. Second Half: He tried to hold the rim before he attempted a throw down and was called for it. He picked up his fourth foul and had to sit after a minute and a half. He swatted Gay's drive. He dunked off the Luke feed. Huge block on Lowry, spiking the ball to the ground with a minute left. He scored with a couple seconds left.

Luke -- -- Offensively, he had a pretty good game for us. That was nice to see. Defensively, they Grizzlies painted a target on him and attacked. They went on a huge run when he and Farmar came in the game late in the third. Another mental mistake on an in-bounds pass by Luke after our final play busted, he still forced it in even though we had a timeout. Not that I was expecting us to do much with it, but still... Anyway, happy birthday, Luke. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 2-5 shooting (4-5 from the line) to go with 5 boards, 3 assists, 1 block, 2 turnovers and 3 fouls in 18 minutes. The Action: He missed a baseline runner. Second Half: He missed a floater in the lane. He missed a wing jumper. He hit a tricky turnaround on the baseline. He pulled down a Kobe missed three and drew FTs, he made both. He attacked inside the zone off the jumpstep, drew a foul and banked in the And-1, he made the FT. He pushed out the break off the Kobe steal and drew FTs, he made one. Gay scored an And-1 on him on iso on the other end. He fed Ronny after a baseline attack for a dunk.

Farmar -- -- Farmar continued some of his March struggles from behind the arc. While he did crank up a good number, I did like that he worked a little more for a couple mid-range looks in this game. More of that, less of what ain't working. Speaking of which, when is Drew getting back? Farmar and Fish need him badly on D. The Stats: He scored 11 points on 4-9 shooting (1-5 from three, 2-2 from the line) to go with 3 boards, 3 assists, 2 turnovers and 1 foul in 24 minutes. The Action: Good look at a three on a swing pass and he drained it. He missed a layup off the pinch post. He gave up an open jumper to Crit. Nice ballfake to freeze the D, he then moved in and hit the 12-footer on the baseline. He missed a three at the buzzer. He missed an open three badly. Second Half: He missed a three over the zone. He sank a wing jumper off quick ball movement. He got tied up in the paint off the dribble, but we won the toss. He then tracked down a Sasha miss and hit him with the pass for a three. He passed up the three, moved closer and hit the baseline jumper. Costly turnover, stepping out of bounds after taking a kickout, then Lowry hit over him on the other end. He attacked in transition and drew a foul with 3:34 left, he made both FTs. He missed an open three.

Vujacic -- -- Sasha was shooting like crazy on threes over the top of the zone. Unfortunately, his gun was filled with a lot of blanks. If we were going to outscore the Grizzlies, Sasha would have been the key to that. He had some crazy career numbers in attempts. You could see him struggling to dial it in with each attempt. "We just needed one or two stops to make it a game in our favor," Sasha said. We couldn't get them with consistency, so Sasha's misses stand out a bit more. The Stats: He scored 14 points on 5-17 shooting (4-14 from three) to go with 3 boards, 1 assist, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 24 minutes. The Action: He got a kind bounce on a baseline catch-and-shoot and the shot fell in. He threw a pass away on a drive down the lane. He missed a wide open three. He drew a moving screen foul on D. Second Half: He missed a three over the zone. He missed another three over the zone. He finally hit a three over the zone on a kickout from Lamar. He missed a three, we got it back and kicked to him and he knocked it down from the corner. He missed a two-pointer from about the same spot on the next possession. He missed back-to-back open threes with 4 minutes left. He sank an open three with 3 minutes left. He rushed a baseline jumper and missed. He missed another three. We got it back, he missed a three again. He sank a three on a kickout from Lamar with a minute left. He missed another one.

Mbenga -- -- This is one of those games that hit his scouting report on the button. Lots of shot blocks. Lots of fouls. The Stats: He scored 4 points on 2-3 shooting, had 1 rebound, 1 assists, 4 blocks and 6 fouls in 16 minutes. The Action: He cut to the hoop and wasn't looking for the pass that went out of bounds. Nice challenge on Miller to force a miss. He hit Lamar for a jumper. Great D stepping out behind the screen and drawing the charge on Miller. He picked up three fouls and had to sit after 6 minutes. Second Half: He faked right, went left and hit the jumphook over Darko. He swatted Darko's drive and it led to a dunk for Kobe the other way. He hit a turnaround jumper in the lane out of the timeout (I don't think that's what we drew up). He missed a 15-footer on the same type of sequence. Mbenga fouled out at the end of the third quarter.

Mihm -- -- With Mbenga fouling out late in the third quarter and down by 9, Phil put Mihm in. You could see he doesn't have quite the explosion he needs. When he gets going, his best asset is on the offensive glass and giving us the occasional jumphook. Don't expect him to be much an anchor. Good to see him back. The Stats: He didn't score on 0-1 shooting, he had 1 assists and 1 foul in his 5 minutes. The Action: He missed an elbow jumper on his first attempt.

Phil -- -- This team has no zone skills other than shooting over the top. "We welcome the zone most of the time," Phil said. He didn't like the way we attacked it. No inside-out possessions. There's a lot we aren't doing. How about some backscreens? How about some ball fakes and then attacking? These are just some basics that we never seem to do to help get you inside the zone... Defensively, a lot of our problem is due to the injuries. We are getting burned out and the effort is suffering. The wheels have fallen off and we need some new blood to spark us. Mihm probably won't help much because he needs to get some explosion back and he was never a strong anchor anyway. Newble needs to be dusted off when our SFs are taking it. But more than anything, we need our bigs back to clog the lane. Phil has got to keep the fire burning until then... Kobe had the Lakers first 12 points and 23 of our 30 in the first quarter. Phil sat him to start the second, we trailed 32-30... Memphis started running a lot of zone and went on a late second quarter run and we went to the half tied 53-53. Their zone looked incredibly soft, yet so did we. Kobe shot 11-22, the rest of the team 8-30 in the half... Cleamons wanted Kobe to incorporate the whole team better in the second half... The Grizzlies were shooting FTs from 8:50 on in the third quarter... Phil sat Kobe with a couple minutes left in the third as we went down by 4. (We were down 9 when he returned). The Grizzlies went on a 14-0 run... We trailed 89-80 heading into the fourth quarter. The Lakers were out-scored 36-27 in the third... We ran with a Ronny, Luke, Kobe, Sasha, Jordan lineup for extended minutes in that quarter... Down by 3 with 2:15 left, we missed multiple threes and jumpers on one possession with an injured Memphis player. That possession hurt... Down by 2 we get the stop with 37 seconds left. On the other end, Kobe attacked and kicked to Lamar and he missed the three... Rudy Gay, up by 2 with 0.9 tried to miss a FT by line driving it and it went in. We got the ball back, down by 3 with a chance to chuck from three to tie. Luke forced the ball in instead of taking a timeout and we're done... I've had enough of the flashbacks to the Rudy Three, No D team. It ain't pretty. We need Pau and Drew badly...

Game Flow -- LINK -- Check out the 14-0 run in the third that coincided with our second unit coming in. Mbenga had a -18.

[mhan00]

ugly loss

[chazz]

sad lost again by the Lakers..BYW FIRST baby!!!

[chazz]

Damn you mhan00!!! Damn you

[KB0024]

I'm thinking about stopped watching the games and just read DB's recap. This team is an eyesore right now.

[KobeJaws]

terrible lost....but life goes on. Thanks DB

[Trajan]

Can't wait for Sunday. If they dare come out and play the same way, we'll know exactly what we're in for until Gasol comes back. Oh Gasol, save us!

[8750]

thanks, DB
when a team doesn't have any defensive strategy...
when a team is never able to attack a zone defense...
when a team never has a good play in clutch...
may we say that this team has a huge coaching problem?

[Klone_dd]

I don't think I've ever seen a team so befuddled before. There was a sequence against the zone that Luke and JoFar were just standing still playing catch with one another and no one else moved. Simply incredible. At times the pass was available to the post, but no one ever attempted the pass. Are these guys that dense? That tired? That uninspired?

I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see it. After I saw it, I wanted to

[Shaber]

LA no D Lakers again...

Sad to see Lakers getting all the minutes backfireing now. Too many tired players. Too many banged up players. Do we even have a healthy five? Kobe-banged up, Fish-torn, Ronny-sprained, Lamar-exhausted, Luke-recovering, Mihm-did not even expect to see him anymore...


These games expose all the Phil's weaknesses so much you start to wonder how he could ever get his 9 rings. Or was he just lucky to have the greatest players of that time in his teams - and they won their rings despite Phil...

Hey, coach, its time to get all your mastermind working for playing TEAM DEFENCE and find a way to get the team to break the zone! And if you don't know how to break the zone, bring in a random coach from Europe to tell you. Here everybody knows. How come you do not?
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Lakers depth chart

PG Johnson / Goodrich
SG Bryant / West / Scott
SF Baylor / Worthy / Cooper
PF Mikkelsen / Hairston / McAdoo / Gasol
C Chamberlain / Abdul-Jabbar / O'Neal / Mikan

[A Mad Chinaman]

Unfortunate loss with DFish and LO the latest casulaities to the not being able to effectively play in important games?

DFish
What is the prognosis of his injury - will he be able to play with some rest and/or will it handicap him throughout the playoffs?

LO
What did he catch and when is he anticipated to recover - in time for Sunday's game?t

Bynum
Is he still anticipated to make an appearance before the playoffs?

Pau
Is it likely that he will be returning to action on Sunday? What are the dangers of him returning prematurely - besides the obvious of being injuried again?

Ariza
Is it realistic to expect him to play during the playoffs?

[Magic'sSon]

[limchrc]

I'm sad. Hope we win our next games.

[Sage_10]

I think Ariza is so critical to the success of this team. We need another good wing defender besides Kobe. This is really bad.
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[Mr. EiGhTy-OnE]

IM SPEECHLESS
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[Texas_Pete]

[chino]

These is only based in my opinion, but here it goes:

[wolfpaclaker]

Ehh ... just wake me up when Gasol, Bynum and the big 4 are playing together. Hell, screw the big 4, just get me either Bynum or Gasol at 100% back with Kobe + LO.

The incredible overreactions over the last 10 games where the Lakers have been very poor (yet managed to win 50% of their games) is hysterical. You are talking about a team that is totally different when they have their post game on both ends. The Lakers are playing god awful, almost every player after Kobe + LO are playing their worst ball of the season. Surprising? Nope. The rest of them are role players. Being asked to play well and beyond above their heads. Even the Lakers top 2 current players - Kobe + LO - are doing way more than they should have to.

Lets look at roles/minutes.

Turiaf
role: Lead anchor. Starting Center. Needs to finish plays inside. 30+ mpg needed.
results: Can't anchor without Fouls. Undersized and more of a mid to high post scorer than a low post finisher. Doesn't rebound well.

Fisher
role: Lead guard. Without Gasol, Lakers have to rely more on guard play and creation from their guards. With Gasol/Bynum, Fisher can be a jumpshooter. Without, he has to create more for himself and others.
result: disaster and Sky having gone through 3 TV sets the last 2 weeks.

Farmar/Vujacic:
role: making their 3's/perimeter shots and playing pressure D.
results: not getting the same looks without the bigs inside drawing the defensive attention. Their confidence is shot once they can't make offensive plays. This leads to poor decisions and often selfish decisions. Defensively, without the anchor/shotblocking big inside (Bynum/Gasol) they get torched and exposed far more. Same thing with Fisher.

Walton's been struggling all season, so can't really say anything for him. Rad's been himself. Essentially, the key drop off has been in the play of Farmar, Vujacic, Turiaf and Fisher. And you can lead it directly to them having to do more than they are accustomed too.

You are talking about a team with a 6'10 SF/PF type basically their best interior defender and offensive player. That's not a compliment to Lamar, that just shows how limited we are. Lamar's putting up mad stats, and as a LO fan I am liking how he's stepped up, but I want Odom back to a smooth 15-9-3 game, because him grabbing all those boards, making all these plays inside is mainly because he is only paint player with any ability to. However once Bynum or Gasol or both are in the lineup, it's on them to do it too. So then LA has balance inside the paint, and actual size. Intimidation. God bless LO's effort and talents but they are just not enough at a power position.

So we all pretty much agree that LO isn't a great 2nd option, and that when Bryant has to carry the load he often forgets how to play efficiently and appropriately from the team perspective. Even though IMO both Kobe and LO have been great this past 10 games, the fact is neither player is doing what they ought to. They are both doing way too much, also. Just like the role players. Only unlike the role players, since they have elite talent at certain aspects of the game, they can succeed without the necessary interior help.

Why worry about something that just 3 weeks ago was fine & not an issue? One thing and only one thing has caused this 5-5 "slump" and that's the injuries to our post players.

I (bleep) hate how "what have you done for me lately" we can be at times. The Lakers are clearly missing Gasol/Bynum and are struggling immensely. Yet, they still sit 3rd in the standings, and are 5-5 in this "slump". Last year, a slump for us wasn't 5-5 with Kobe and Odom doing everything. That was the norm, at least at this part of the year. Once we have a healthy Bynum/Gasol (hopefully both) just watch as the team plays at an elite level again.

[wolfpaclaker]

BTW - Just looked them up.

Stats the last 10-15 games.

Bryant 31.9 ppg 7.6 rpg 4.6 apg 45.1 FG% 1,6 spg
Odom 15.8 ppg 12.6 rpg 4.0 apg 1.7 spg 1.5 bpg 56.1 FG%

Both Kobe and Odom have picked up their games, but at the same time you can start to sense that the minutes (42 per game for each) are starting to catch up, especially with Lamar. Just not having the same lift and energy in their legs. I can see it.

Rest of the guys

Fish 11.7 ppg 40.9 FG% (Was shooting well above 45% before)
Vujacic 9.4 ppg 39.8 FG% (Was shooting above 45%)
Turiaf 8.2 ppg 43 FG% (Was shooting in the 50's earlier on)
Farmar 7.8 ppg 38.9 FG% (Was shooting well above 45% before)

IMO it's clear even with statistical proof that the slump has been caused by our injuries to the bigs inside. It has trickled down to the role players playing awful, which has then led to LA playing horrible defense. LA is a team that feeds off their offense. So when their O struggles, often their D struggles even more.

This reminds me a lot of the 2003-2004 season. The Lakers were rarely with their 4 best players in the lineup. They barely could get 3 of them in the same lineup because Shaq, Karl and Kobe all were injured for long stretches during that season. However once they even had 3 or 4 of them together in the lineup, everything shifted rather quickly. Look for the same to happen when Gasol comes back, and AB too.

[Drifts]

Lamar's condition really hurt us, he needs to take some vitamins. if he managed to score just 4 more than his 2 pts, we would've pulled this one out.
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[wolfpaclaker]

[Freakout]

Without our bigs it shows how we have no athletic depth at our perimeter positions. When HEALTHY you can look at Kobe and Ariza (maybe Newble) as good perimeter defenders. The problem is Fisher, Farmar, Vlado, Walton, Sasha cannot defend a chair on a consistent basis. They always seem to over play their guy giving him a lane to the basket. Yeah, when healthy, our bigs help cover their defensive short comings but without them then our lack of perimeter defense gets exposed.

This isn't a panic response but I really feel that the organization has to bring more balance to those positions in the off-season. It is the reason I believe they cannot re-sign Sasha and that they absolutely must move Luke and/or Vlad.

They also need to find a bruiser big that will come in off the bench and just rebound and defend. I like Ronny but that just isn't his game. They need a Reggie Evans type. Maybe trade next years Bobcats 2nd round pick for one of Portland's this season and draft a Joey Dorsey.

As for the zone, I blame that on Phil. Since he came back lesser teams have zoned the crap out of us (Memphis did the same last year as well) and here we are 3 years later with no clue on how to beat it.

[Mr. EiGhTy-OnE]

[alwayslakers08]

why doesnt this team know how to break the zone? I understand we dont have a post player but to break the zone you throw the ball inside...kick it out, move it around...break the damn zone apart. If you arent shooting very well, then the zone will kill you. I dont understand, does Phil not tell this team anything? whats going on? so irritating
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[Mr. EiGhTy-OnE]

i keep hoping if i visit this thread enough, it will change to a smiley.
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