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 Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:37 am Post subject: Hollywood actors join writers strike |
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Hollywood actors to strike at midnight, join writers on picket lines
I think this strike may affect some series that are on hiatus. Shows like Tulsa King, The Sunday Show, and Bel-Air to name a few. C'mon DMR get in there. Use your debating skills to get this thing settled. 
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So much for an end of summer settlement to the writers strike.
And I just read MI: Dead Reckoning Part 2 paused filming for the writers strike. They were about 40% complete. Tom Cruise may not be able to run by the time they settle. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | So much for an end of summer settlement to the writers strike.
And I just read MI: Dead Reckoning Part 2 paused filming for the writers strike. They were about 40% complete. Tom Cruise may not be able to run by the time they settle. |
If Tom doesn't run it won't be a true MI. 
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:24 am Post subject: |
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| jodeke wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | So much for an end of summer settlement to the writers strike.
And I just read MI: Dead Reckoning Part 2 paused filming for the writers strike. They were about 40% complete. Tom Cruise may not be able to run by the time they settle. |
If Tom doesn't run it won't be a true MI. |
you see what they did to harrison ford in IJ. he will forever be alive. Actors will soon be irrelevant. their likeness and voices are all that's needed.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | So much for an end of summer settlement to the writers strike.
And I just read MI: Dead Reckoning Part 2 paused filming for the writers strike. They were about 40% complete. Tom Cruise may not be able to run by the time they settle. |
If Tom doesn't run it won't be a true MI. |
you see what they did to harrison ford in IJ. he will forever be alive. Actors will soon be irrelevant. their likeness and voices are all that's needed. |
It's my understanding, that's why actors joined the writers. I don't think actors will ever be irrelevant. You can't AI a Clarke Gable, Paul Newman, or Denzel Washington.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| jodeke wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | So much for an end of summer settlement to the writers strike.
And I just read MI: Dead Reckoning Part 2 paused filming for the writers strike. They were about 40% complete. Tom Cruise may not be able to run by the time they settle. |
If Tom doesn't run it won't be a true MI. |
you see what they did to harrison ford in IJ. he will forever be alive. Actors will soon be irrelevant. their likeness and voices are all that's needed. |
It's my understanding, that's why actors joined the writers. I don't think actors will ever be irrelevant. You can't AI a Clarke Gable, Paul Newman, or Denzel Washington. |
I know. that's the studios stance Im sure. nuance is everything and ai IMHO will never offer it.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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| jodeke wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | So much for an end of summer settlement to the writers strike.
And I just read MI: Dead Reckoning Part 2 paused filming for the writers strike. They were about 40% complete. Tom Cruise may not be able to run by the time they settle. |
If Tom doesn't run it won't be a true MI. |
you see what they did to harrison ford in IJ. he will forever be alive. Actors will soon be irrelevant. their likeness and voices are all that's needed. |
It's my understanding, that's why actors joined the writers. I don't think actors will ever be irrelevant. You can't AI a Clarke Gable, Paul Newman, or Denzel Washington. |
When Paul Walker passed away they managed to finish the movie without him. Mind you that was with the family's cooperation and technology from a decade ago. I'm sure with more powerful computers and software anything is possible in the future. |
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Pretty crappy that the studios want to be able to pay a struggling actor one day scale pay, do a motion and likeness capture, and be able to use that however they want in perpetuity with neither consent nor payment. Fwiw, this isn’t about stars or well known writers who run shows, this is about the lower part of the scale where the pay matters for their livelihood.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Pretty crappy that the studios want to be able to pay a struggling actor one day scale pay, do a motion and likeness capture, and be able to use that however they want in perpetuity with neither consent nor payment. Fwiw, this isn’t about stars or well known writers who run shows, this is about the lower part of the scale where the pay matters for their livelihood. |
Yeah it’s total BS. Additionally, the way studios do everything they can to screw talent out of residuals with streaming shenanigans is downright shameful. Just look at the complete garbage that is the WB/Discovery merger. |
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Ron Perlman, Clay Morrow, from Sons of Anarchy went off on social media after a Hollywood executive allegedly said they will keep this strike going until people start to lose their houses and their apartments.
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | So much for an end of summer settlement to the writers strike.
And I just read MI: Dead Reckoning Part 2 paused filming for the writers strike. They were about 40% complete. Tom Cruise may not be able to run by the time they settle. |
If Tom doesn't run it won't be a true MI. |
you see what they did to harrison ford in IJ. he will forever be alive. Actors will soon be irrelevant. their likeness and voices are all that's needed. |
It's my understanding, that's why actors joined the writers. I don't think actors will ever be irrelevant. You can't AI a Clarke Gable, Paul Newman, or Denzel Washington. |
When Paul Walker passed away they managed to finish the movie without him. Mind you that was with the family's cooperation and technology from a decade ago. I'm sure with more powerful computers and software anything is possible in the future. |
Sure, all that stuff is inevitable and to some extend already here. It should be negotiated, agreed upon, and compensated fairly though. That’s not what the studios are proposing.
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| ocho wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | So much for an end of summer settlement to the writers strike.
And I just read MI: Dead Reckoning Part 2 paused filming for the writers strike. They were about 40% complete. Tom Cruise may not be able to run by the time they settle. |
If Tom doesn't run it won't be a true MI. |
you see what they did to harrison ford in IJ. he will forever be alive. Actors will soon be irrelevant. their likeness and voices are all that's needed. |
It's my understanding, that's why actors joined the writers. I don't think actors will ever be irrelevant. You can't AI a Clarke Gable, Paul Newman, or Denzel Washington. |
When Paul Walker passed away they managed to finish the movie without him. Mind you that was with the family's cooperation and technology from a decade ago. I'm sure with more powerful computers and software anything is possible in the future. |
Sure, all that stuff is inevitable and to some extend already here. It should be negotiated, agreed upon, and compensated fairly though. That’s not what the studios are proposing. |
Finishing a movie without an actor because he is dead is one thing, but finishing a movie without an actor because you can have AI do it cheaper is a whole nother. |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | So much for an end of summer settlement to the writers strike.
And I just read MI: Dead Reckoning Part 2 paused filming for the writers strike. They were about 40% complete. Tom Cruise may not be able to run by the time they settle. |
If Tom doesn't run it won't be a true MI. |
you see what they did to harrison ford in IJ. he will forever be alive. Actors will soon be irrelevant. their likeness and voices are all that's needed. |
It's my understanding, that's why actors joined the writers. I don't think actors will ever be irrelevant. You can't AI a Clarke Gable, Paul Newman, or Denzel Washington. |
When Paul Walker passed away they managed to finish the movie without him. Mind you that was with the family's cooperation and technology from a decade ago. I'm sure with more powerful computers and software anything is possible in the future. |
Sure, all that stuff is inevitable and to some extend already here. It should be negotiated, agreed upon, and compensated fairly though. That’s not what the studios are proposing. |
Finishing a movie without an actor because he is dead is one thing, but finishing a movie without an actor because you can have AI do it cheaper is a whole nother. |
Especially if they can cast an actor in a role they never agreed to via AI.
That opens a pandora's box to something else. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | So much for an end of summer settlement to the writers strike.
And I just read MI: Dead Reckoning Part 2 paused filming for the writers strike. They were about 40% complete. Tom Cruise may not be able to run by the time they settle. |
If Tom doesn't run it won't be a true MI. |
you see what they did to harrison ford in IJ. he will forever be alive. Actors will soon be irrelevant. their likeness and voices are all that's needed. |
It's my understanding, that's why actors joined the writers. I don't think actors will ever be irrelevant. You can't AI a Clarke Gable, Paul Newman, or Denzel Washington. |
When Paul Walker passed away they managed to finish the movie without him. Mind you that was with the family's cooperation and technology from a decade ago. I'm sure with more powerful computers and software anything is possible in the future. |
Sure, all that stuff is inevitable and to some extend already here. It should be negotiated, agreed upon, and compensated fairly though. That’s not what the studios are proposing. |
The nerve to even propose what they did.
You know what would be cheaper, though — AI execs. Lol. Just pay them for a couple hours of work and train the AI on their leadership style, decision making, etc. |
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| DancingBarry wrote: | | You know what would be cheaper, though — AI execs. Lol. Just pay them for a couple hours of work and train the AI on their leadership style, decision making, etc. |
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I hope my favorite SOAP Y&R won't be affected by the strike. Soaps shoot anywhere from weeks to months in advance. They may have enough in the can to wait out the strike.
May hurt Lincoln Lawyer's 2nd part. It's supposed to drop on Aug 3rd.
What to Know About the Actors’ Strike
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| jodeke wrote: | I hope my favorite SOAP Y&R won't be affected by the strike. Soaps shoot anywhere from weeks to months in advance. They may have enough in the can to wait out the strike.
May hurt Lincoln Lawyer's 2nd part. It's supposed to drop on Aug 3rd.
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Soaps will still be in production. |
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| Strike or not we checked out MI: Dead Reckoning Part One last night and it was typical Cruise brilliance even if the plots get more and more convoluted. |
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| Basketball Fan wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | I hope my favorite SOAP Y&R won't be affected by the strike. Soaps shoot anywhere from weeks to months in advance. They may have enough in the can to wait out the strike.
May hurt Lincoln Lawyer's 2nd part. It's supposed to drop on Aug 3rd.
What to Know About the Actors’ Strike
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Soaps will still be in production. |
Scabs.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Basketball Fan wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | I hope my favorite SOAP Y&R won't be affected by the strike. Soaps shoot anywhere from weeks to months in advance. They may have enough in the can to wait out the strike.
May hurt Lincoln Lawyer's 2nd part. It's supposed to drop on Aug 3rd.
What to Know About the Actors’ Strike
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Soaps will still be in production. |
Scabs. |
The writers yes but this article explains it better than I do.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/why-daytime-soap-operas-wont-be-impacted-by-the-sag-aftra-strike/ar-AA1dSqiN |
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| Basketball Fan wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Basketball Fan wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | I hope my favorite SOAP Y&R won't be affected by the strike. Soaps shoot anywhere from weeks to months in advance. They may have enough in the can to wait out the strike.
May hurt Lincoln Lawyer's 2nd part. It's supposed to drop on Aug 3rd.
What to Know About the Actors’ Strike
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Soaps will still be in production. |
Scabs. |
The writers yes but this article explains it better than I do.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/why-daytime-soap-operas-wont-be-impacted-by-the-sag-aftra-strike/ar-AA1dSqiN |
While Netcode says they are "legally obligated" to continue working, by being in the union, they are also protected in the sense that they cannot be punished if they chose to honor the picket lines. It's the same with my union. If I were working a show that wasn't closed down, I would be expected to work, but if i chose to not cross the line, I could not be replaced and my job would have to be waiting for me when the strike ended or I decided to return to work, as long as I stipulated from the beginning that I was not reporting to work for that reason.
They have a choice. If you’re in a union, your obligation is to stand by your union brothers snd sisters.
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