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| C M B wrote: | | Elderly Asian dudes getting in on our national bloodlust now. When the first female eventually pulls one of these, it'll be time to move. |
Well that Vegas shooter was an old white guy and he would've never pulled that off without those tools at his disposal. |
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| C M B wrote: | | Elderly Asian dudes getting in on our national bloodlust now. When the first female eventually pulls one of these, it'll be time to move. |
in our own backyard Nasim Aghdam |
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| A high percentage of mass murder events were committed by men who previously perpetrated domestic violence on wife/gf/mother/grandmother, etc. |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | C M B wrote: | | Elderly Asian dudes getting in on our national bloodlust now. When the first female eventually pulls one of these, it'll be time to move. |
Well that Vegas shooter was an old white guy and he would've never pulled that off without those tools at his disposal. |
That was the most bizarre of all. It’s been how many years and they still have no motive. Incidentally the area where that concert was is where they want to build a stadium for the A’s.
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| JerryWest_44 wrote: | | C M B wrote: | | Elderly Asian dudes getting in on our national bloodlust now. When the first female eventually pulls one of these, it'll be time to move. |
in our own backyard Nasim Aghdam |
There was that shooting in San Bernardino awhile back where the perpetrators were a couple.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizwan_Farook_and_Tashfeen_Malik
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| Was the second dance studio mostly Asian too? |
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Unfortunately, I've become desensitized to it all. Nothing will be done about the banning of assault rifles.
Till the next mass shooting...🏴 |
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| Black20Ice wrote: | Unfortunately, I've become desensitized to it all. Nothing will be done about the banning of assault rifles.
Till the next mass shooting...🏴 |
The really disillusioning thing is that once upon a time, several years ago, they were banned.
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| Black20Ice wrote: | Unfortunately, I've become desensitized to it all. Nothing will be done about the banning of assault rifles.
Till the next mass shooting...🏴 |
Assault rifles are already banned.
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| JerryWest_44 wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | JerryWest_44 wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | I'm impressed with law enforcement's ability to bring this shooting to a possible conclusion, other than motive. Speculations are probably being investigated. Usually, emails, computer files, Facebook, and such reveal possible motives. I'm guessing the suspect has a mental history. |
they had good picture of him & cargo van description from the 2nd ballroom incident in Alhambra. |
And they are saying that it’s a domestic incident |
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A domestic dispute between husband & wife. She was invited to the party and he wasnt. |
None of the official news sources have mentioned this. What they did mention was that he was likely stewing about his anger against that dance hall for some reason. He stopped going to that place for almost a decade. Moved away from the area and to Hemet in a mobile home park. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Black20Ice wrote: | Unfortunately, I've become desensitized to it all. Nothing will be done about the banning of assault rifles.
Till the next mass shooting...🏴 |
Assault rifles are already banned. |
As I understand it only 9 states have banned assault rifles. LINK
| Quote: | Yes, assault rifles are legal to own in the United States. The United States has some of the loosest gun laws in the world. Therefore, there are lots of types of weapons you can own in the United States, and an assault rifle is definitely one of them. At the same time, assault rifles have not always been legal in the United States.
In 1994, Congress passed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act which made it basically illegal to manufacture or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon. For several years during the 1990s and early 2000s, this assault weapon ban was in place in the United States. The ban was allowed to expire in 2004 without being renewed, and assault rifles once again became legal in the United States. At the same time, if you are interested in owning an assault rifle, you need to take a look at the laws of your state. |
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| jodeke wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Black20Ice wrote: | Unfortunately, I've become desensitized to it all. Nothing will be done about the banning of assault rifles.
Till the next mass shooting...🏴 |
Assault rifles are already banned. |
As I understand it only 9 states have banned assault rifles. LINK
| Quote: | Yes, assault rifles are legal to own in the United States. The United States has some of the loosest gun laws in the world. Therefore, there are lots of types of weapons you can own in the United States, and an assault rifle is definitely one of them. At the same time, assault rifles have not always been legal in the United States.
In 1994, Congress passed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act which made it basically illegal to manufacture or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon. For several years during the 1990s and early 2000s, this assault weapon ban was in place in the United States. The ban was allowed to expire in 2004 without being renewed, and assault rifles once again became legal in the United States. At the same time, if you are interested in owning an assault rifle, you need to take a look at the laws of your state. |
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My guess is that VLF is likely going the disingenuous route of quibbling between the term assault rifle versus assault-style rifles
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Monterey Park suspect may have been targeting ex-wife in shooting that left 10 dead
Story by Chantal Da Silva and Safia Samee Ali and C
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| jodeke wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Black20Ice wrote: | Unfortunately, I've become desensitized to it all. Nothing will be done about the banning of assault rifles.
Till the next mass shooting...🏴 |
Assault rifles are already banned. |
As I understand it only 9 states have banned assault rifles. LINK
| Quote: | Yes, assault rifles are legal to own in the United States. The United States has some of the loosest gun laws in the world. Therefore, there are lots of types of weapons you can own in the United States, and an assault rifle is definitely one of them. At the same time, assault rifles have not always been legal in the United States.
In 1994, Congress passed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act which made it basically illegal to manufacture or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon. For several years during the 1990s and early 2000s, this assault weapon ban was in place in the United States. The ban was allowed to expire in 2004 without being renewed, and assault rifles once again became legal in the United States. At the same time, if you are interested in owning an assault rifle, you need to take a look at the laws of your state. |
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An assault rifle is defined as an automatic weapon, or a weapon that can be manipulated to be automatic. And those are illegal, as they should be. There is no sane reason to have an automatic weapon. But according to the misinformation from the media, my 20 gauge shotgun is an assault weapon.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Black20Ice wrote: | Unfortunately, I've become desensitized to it all. Nothing will be done about the banning of assault rifles.
Till the next mass shooting...🏴 |
Assault rifles are already banned. |
As I understand it only 9 states have banned assault rifles. LINK
| Quote: | Yes, assault rifles are legal to own in the United States. The United States has some of the loosest gun laws in the world. Therefore, there are lots of types of weapons you can own in the United States, and an assault rifle is definitely one of them. At the same time, assault rifles have not always been legal in the United States.
In 1994, Congress passed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act which made it basically illegal to manufacture or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon. For several years during the 1990s and early 2000s, this assault weapon ban was in place in the United States. The ban was allowed to expire in 2004 without being renewed, and assault rifles once again became legal in the United States. At the same time, if you are interested in owning an assault rifle, you need to take a look at the laws of your state. |
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An assault rifle is defined as an automatic weapon, or a weapon that can be manipulated to be automatic. And those are illegal, as they should be. There is no sane reason to have an automatic weapon. But according to the misinformation from the media, my 20 gauge shotgun is an assault weapon. |
Stop it. We've been through this before and it is YOU who continually tries to misinform on the issue.
| Quote: | | When the now-defunct Federal Assault Weapons Ban was passed in 1994, the U.S. Department of Justice said, "In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use." |
While not everyone has the exact same definition, commonalities are high velocity/ military caliber ammunition, lighter weight and improved portability relative to a standard long rifle, ability to accept high capacity magazines.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Black20Ice wrote: | Unfortunately, I've become desensitized to it all. Nothing will be done about the banning of assault rifles.
Till the next mass shooting...🏴 |
Assault rifles are already banned. |
As I understand it only 9 states have banned assault rifles. LINK
| Quote: | Yes, assault rifles are legal to own in the United States. The United States has some of the loosest gun laws in the world. Therefore, there are lots of types of weapons you can own in the United States, and an assault rifle is definitely one of them. At the same time, assault rifles have not always been legal in the United States.
In 1994, Congress passed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act which made it basically illegal to manufacture or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon. For several years during the 1990s and early 2000s, this assault weapon ban was in place in the United States. The ban was allowed to expire in 2004 without being renewed, and assault rifles once again became legal in the United States. At the same time, if you are interested in owning an assault rifle, you need to take a look at the laws of your state. |
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My guess is that VLF is likely going the disingenuous route of quibbling between the term assault rifle versus assault-style rifles |
You were spot on DMR. He's at it. I'm gonna step aside and let you and Omar go a it with my friend.
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| jodeke wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Black20Ice wrote: | Unfortunately, I've become desensitized to it all. Nothing will be done about the banning of assault rifles.
Till the next mass shooting...🏴 |
Assault rifles are already banned. |
As I understand it only 9 states have banned assault rifles. LINK
| Quote: | Yes, assault rifles are legal to own in the United States. The United States has some of the loosest gun laws in the world. Therefore, there are lots of types of weapons you can own in the United States, and an assault rifle is definitely one of them. At the same time, assault rifles have not always been legal in the United States.
In 1994, Congress passed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act which made it basically illegal to manufacture or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon. For several years during the 1990s and early 2000s, this assault weapon ban was in place in the United States. The ban was allowed to expire in 2004 without being renewed, and assault rifles once again became legal in the United States. At the same time, if you are interested in owning an assault rifle, you need to take a look at the laws of your state. |
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My guess is that VLF is likely going the disingenuous route of quibbling between the term assault rifle versus assault-style rifles |
You were spot on DMR. He's at it. I'm gonna step aside and let you and Omar go a it with him. |
No, we aren't doing that again.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Black20Ice wrote: | Unfortunately, I've become desensitized to it all. Nothing will be done about the banning of assault rifles.
Till the next mass shooting...🏴 |
Assault rifles are already banned. |
As I understand it only 9 states have banned assault rifles. LINK
| Quote: | Yes, assault rifles are legal to own in the United States. The United States has some of the loosest gun laws in the world. Therefore, there are lots of types of weapons you can own in the United States, and an assault rifle is definitely one of them. At the same time, assault rifles have not always been legal in the United States.
In 1994, Congress passed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act which made it basically illegal to manufacture or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon. For several years during the 1990s and early 2000s, this assault weapon ban was in place in the United States. The ban was allowed to expire in 2004 without being renewed, and assault rifles once again became legal in the United States. At the same time, if you are interested in owning an assault rifle, you need to take a look at the laws of your state. |
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My guess is that VLF is likely going the disingenuous route of quibbling between the term assault rifle versus assault-style rifles |
You were spot on DMR. He's at it. I'm gonna step aside and let you and Omar go a it with him. |
No, we aren't doing that again. |
Why not? You can be pretty persuasive. You convinced me a tree makes a noise when it falls even if no one is there to hear it. 
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| Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| jodeke wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Black20Ice wrote: | Unfortunately, I've become desensitized to it all. Nothing will be done about the banning of assault rifles.
Till the next mass shooting...🏴 |
Assault rifles are already banned. |
As I understand it only 9 states have banned assault rifles. LINK
| Quote: | Yes, assault rifles are legal to own in the United States. The United States has some of the loosest gun laws in the world. Therefore, there are lots of types of weapons you can own in the United States, and an assault rifle is definitely one of them. At the same time, assault rifles have not always been legal in the United States.
In 1994, Congress passed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act which made it basically illegal to manufacture or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon. For several years during the 1990s and early 2000s, this assault weapon ban was in place in the United States. The ban was allowed to expire in 2004 without being renewed, and assault rifles once again became legal in the United States. At the same time, if you are interested in owning an assault rifle, you need to take a look at the laws of your state. |
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My guess is that VLF is likely going the disingenuous route of quibbling between the term assault rifle versus assault-style rifles |
You were spot on DMR. He's at it. I'm gonna step aside and let you and Omar go a it with him. |
No, we aren't doing that again. |
Why not? You can be pretty persuasive. You convinced me a tree makes a noise when it falls even if no one is there to hear it. |
I appreciate that, but this isn't a topic that needs me persuading people that VLF's misinformation isn't valid. We've been there done that. We can have differing views on things, but we are not doing the dance with willful bad fait arguments.
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| My grandma used to go that that ballroom every weekend. Mostly senior citizens there socializing. She used to tell us the infighting and jealousy for dance partners there were ridiculous, I guess this dude just took it to another level. |
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| Another person has passed away from this rampage. |
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Governor Newsom just finished a visit at the home of the man who disarmed the shooter at the second venue...a real life guardian angel.
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I saw him being interviewed, he really put his life on the line.
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Oddly, also an older asian gentleman.
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