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Lonzo-Lite Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:30 am Post subject: “To be completely honest, we’re not a team constructed of great shooting” - LeBron (after blowout loss to GSW) |
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https://twitter.com/bengolliver/status/1582617364847218688
Quote: | “We’re getting great looks, but it could also be teams giving us great looks. To be completely honest, we’re not a team constructed of great shooting. It’s not like we’re sitting here with a lot of lasers on our team.”
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Posted on the LeBron thread, but needs to be highlighted just how bad this Lakers FO has constructed this team. _________________ Tacos |
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Cutheon Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:37 am Post subject: |
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Great leadership from LeBron—aka, the guy that constructed this team. |
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dont_be_a_wuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:41 am Post subject: |
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The Lakers got great looks at 3 pointers, Golden State made sure of that. |
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ThePageDude Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:42 am Post subject: |
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dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | The Lakers got great looks at 3 pointers, Golden State made sure of that. |
Well said lol. |
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BandwagonLBJhopper Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:43 am Post subject: |
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This is Lebron's passive aggressive way of putting pressure on the FO
At 37 he has alot less leverage though, and AD is under long term contract, so unlikely to do anything |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Well, u signed the extension and Rob already got his extension, that trade pressure is gone. Better teach our bigger wings, Max, Swider and Matt, how to play |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:04 am Post subject: |
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Man, imagine if we had guys like KCP, Caruso, Kuzma or Kieff around LBJ and AD.
Oh wait |
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2019 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:06 am Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: | Man, imagine if we had guys like KCP, Caruso, Kuzma or Kieff around LBJ and AD.
Oh wait |
Or Desmond Bane instead of the 1 year we got from Dennis. |
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PenG_ Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Cutheon wrote: | Great leadership from LeBron—aka, the guy that constructed this team. |
All reports from this offseason are that LeBron exerted no pressure on Pelinka.
However, the Russ trade is why we're in this position. And given LeBron's role in that trade, it's fair to say even this team is in part his construction |
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BILBJH Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:19 am Post subject: |
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I gave coach Ham credit for leaving in Matt Ryan so long.
Only problem was that the stars wouldn't really look for him.
The Lakers always do this ish. They sign some mediocre players who can shoot... and then just leave them out on the court while Russ and AD heave the threes instead.
It's too bad Ryan didn't hit his shots... now, Ham might be afraid to go back to him.
There is no point on putting 3 point shooters on the floor if you don't look for them and get them going. They are a liability if you just leave them out there and don't use them.
You actually have to get them going for them to have gravity and open up space for the others.
LBJ, AD, Russ all did a good job of getting to the rim and scoring in the paint... but you can't let AD and Russ keep chucking threes when they were still in the game. Let them chuck when the game is out of hand... but historically if you are 30 years old and you still are not good at threes... I still don't get how that will change.
Put Matt back in and let him shoot. Don't just leave him out there waving his arms.
This what you are forced to do when you make your team choose Russ over Buddy and KCP. |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:26 am Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: | Man, imagine if we had guys like KCP, Caruso, Kuzma or Kieff around LBJ and AD.
Oh wait |
well, Rob wanted Buddy.... |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:33 am Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: | Man, imagine if we had guys like KCP, Caruso, Kuzma or Kieff around LBJ and AD.
Oh wait |
Imagine if our incompetent GM didn't trade most of them away. Imagine. |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:36 am Post subject: |
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This season pretty much reaffirms my assessment for a while now that Rob is a clueless GM who simply gotten very lucky to put together that 2020 championship team. As it shows, luck can get only get you so far.
Guess what? Jeanie rewarded him a contract extension. Brilliant!! |
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BILBJH Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:36 am Post subject: |
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lakersfever714 wrote: | danzag wrote: | Man, imagine if we had guys like KCP, Caruso, Kuzma or Kieff around LBJ and AD.
Oh wait |
Imagine if our incompetent GM didn't trade most of them away. Imagine. |
Rob's purpose is playing heat shield for LBJ and Klutch.
By that standard he's doing his job very well.
I mean people like you believe Rob is at fault that we have Russ instead of Buddy and KCP and Desmond Bane.
(It's not Rob... he's the heat shield) |
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joeblow Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Not a team built on 3P shooting didn't stop the 2020 squad from winning it all (the Lakers had the second lowest 3P% in the playoffs). Focus more on not giving up 123 points to the opponent!
With that said, Lebron, how about you lead by example and not take TEN trey attempts for the rest of the season? You missed seven of them, which should let you know that you're part of that particular problem. |
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BILBJH Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:40 am Post subject: |
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joeblow wrote: | Not a team built on 3P shooting didn't stop the 2020 squad from winning it all (the Lakers had the second lowest 3P% in the playoffs). Focus more on not giving up 123 points to the opponent!
With that said, Lebron, how about you lead by example and not take TEN trey attempts for the rest of the season? You missed seven of them, which should let you know that you're part of that particular problem. |
Because they got hot in the bubble.
LBJ is actually the only one of the three stars who should be shooting threes.
AD and Russ should be banned from shooting them and give all their threes to Ryan and Nunn.
I realize that sounds absurd... but when you don't acquire Buddy this is what you have to do. |
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Nash Vegas Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Magic Johnson as GM in 2018 was the start of the reason why this Lakers team can’t shoot.
Remember when Magic decided, after signing LeBron, that he didn’t need shooters around him like he had in Cleveland or Miami?
https://primetimesportstalk.com/2019/04/20/a-full-recap-of-magic-johnsons-tenure-with-the-lakers-and-potential-replacements-2/amp/
Instead Magic specifically said he wanted to try something different and build a running team around LeBron, aka Showtime part deux, so he lets Brok Lopez walk then signs players like Rondo, Lance, and Beasley.
Then when it became apparent LeBron actually needed shooting, Magic panic trades Zubac for Muscala during the trade deadline 😂 then Magic ends up quitting before the season ends throwing Pelinka under the Busses. _________________ |
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zambia Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:09 am Post subject: |
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lakersfever714 wrote: | This season pretty much reaffirms my assessment for a while now that Rob is a clueless GM who simply gotten very lucky to put together that 2020 championship team. As it shows, luck can get only get you so far.
Guess what? Jeanie rewarded him a contract extension. Brilliant!! |
It’s crazy how Rob kept his extension a secret. |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Nash Vegas wrote: | Magic Johnson as GM in 2018 was the start of the reason why this Lakers team can’t shoot.
Remember when Magic decided, after signing LeBron, that he didn’t need shooters around him like he had in Cleveland or Miami?
https://primetimesportstalk.com/2019/04/20/a-full-recap-of-magic-johnsons-tenure-with-the-lakers-and-potential-replacements-2/amp/
Instead Magic specifically said he wanted to try something different and build a running team around LeBron, aka Showtime part deux, so he lets Brok Lopez walk then signs players like Rondo, Lance, and Beasley.
Then when it became apparent LeBron actually needed shooting, Magic panic trades Zubac for Muscala during the trade deadline 😂 then Magic ends up quitting before the season ends throwing Pelinka under the Busses. |
And we all know Magic is still on Jeanie's ear |
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zambia Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:16 am Post subject: |
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BILBJH wrote: | lakersfever714 wrote: | danzag wrote: | Man, imagine if we had guys like KCP, Caruso, Kuzma or Kieff around LBJ and AD.
Oh wait |
Imagine if our incompetent GM didn't trade most of them away. Imagine. |
Rob's purpose is playing heat shield for LBJ and Klutch.
By that standard he's doing his job very well.
I mean people like you believe Rob is at fault that we have Russ instead of Buddy and KCP and Desmond Bane.
(It's not Rob... he's the heat shield) |
Heat shield? Stop with the Rob BS.
I hope there’s a team option in Rob’s contract. |
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BILBJH Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:17 am Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: | Nash Vegas wrote: | Magic Johnson as GM in 2018 was the start of the reason why this Lakers team can’t shoot.
Remember when Magic decided, after signing LeBron, that he didn’t need shooters around him like he had in Cleveland or Miami?
https://primetimesportstalk.com/2019/04/20/a-full-recap-of-magic-johnsons-tenure-with-the-lakers-and-potential-replacements-2/amp/
Instead Magic specifically said he wanted to try something different and build a running team around LeBron, aka Showtime part deux, so he lets Brok Lopez walk then signs players like Rondo, Lance, and Beasley.
Then when it became apparent LeBron actually needed shooting, Magic panic trades Zubac for Muscala during the trade deadline 😂 then Magic ends up quitting before the season ends throwing Pelinka under the Busses. |
And we all know Magic is still on Jeanie's ear |
I think this is a fair point that Nash Vegas gave us... but I don't think Magic is responsible for the current state of the team.
We recovered from the Magic experiment and now the Klutch experiment is currently responsible. |
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BILBJH Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:20 am Post subject: |
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zambia wrote: | BILBJH wrote: | lakersfever714 wrote: | danzag wrote: | Man, imagine if we had guys like KCP, Caruso, Kuzma or Kieff around LBJ and AD.
Oh wait |
Imagine if our incompetent GM didn't trade most of them away. Imagine. |
Rob's purpose is playing heat shield for LBJ and Klutch.
By that standard he's doing his job very well.
I mean people like you believe Rob is at fault that we have Russ instead of Buddy and KCP and Desmond Bane.
(It's not Rob... he's the heat shield) |
Heat shield? Stop with the Rob BS.
I hope there’s a team option in Rob’s contract. |
You don't find it odd that LBJ never asks for Rob to be dismissed?
You don't find it odd that Rob got the long extension?
You really believe LePassiveAggressive would just let Rob f*ck the team and not say anything?
He doesn't complain because he knows it's not Rob's fault.
Rob is his personal shield. |
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joeblow Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:27 am Post subject: |
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BILBJH wrote: | joeblow wrote: | Not a team built on 3P shooting didn't stop the 2020 squad from winning it all (the Lakers had the second lowest 3P% in the playoffs). Focus more on not giving up 123 points to the opponent!
With that said, Lebron, how about you lead by example and not take TEN trey attempts for the rest of the season? You missed seven of them, which should let you know that you're part of that particular problem. |
Because they got hot in the bubble.
LBJ is actually the only one of the three stars who should be shooting threes.
AD and Russ should be banned from shooting them and give all their threes to Ryan and Nunn.
I realize that sounds absurd... but when you don't acquire Buddy this is what you have to do. |
Again, out of the 16 teams that made it into the 2020 playoffs, the Lakers were 15th in 3P% (almost dead last). That's not "hot" by any definition.
And encouraging Lebron to shoot more threes this season (like the ten he threw up last night.... pun intended) is a recipe for disaster. |
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hydrohead Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Cutheon wrote: | Great leadership from LeBron—aka, the guy that constructed this team. |
Never should be lost that this guy drove us to the most crippling trade in recent history. _________________ Darvin |
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BILBJH Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:36 am Post subject: |
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joeblow wrote: | BILBJH wrote: | joeblow wrote: | Not a team built on 3P shooting didn't stop the 2020 squad from winning it all (the Lakers had the second lowest 3P% in the playoffs). Focus more on not giving up 123 points to the opponent!
With that said, Lebron, how about you lead by example and not take TEN trey attempts for the rest of the season? You missed seven of them, which should let you know that you're part of that particular problem. |
Because they got hot in the bubble.
LBJ is actually the only one of the three stars who should be shooting threes.
AD and Russ should be banned from shooting them and give all their threes to Ryan and Nunn.
I realize that sounds absurd... but when you don't acquire Buddy this is what you have to do. |
Again, out of the 16 teams that made it into the 2020 playoffs, the Lakers were 15th in 3P% (almost dead last). That's not "hot" by any definition.
And encouraging Lebron to shoot more threes this season (like the ten he threw up last night.... pun intended) is a recipe for disaster. |
I'm not saying he should shoot more threes. I'm saying of the three stars on the team... he's the only won who should be even allowed to take them.
AD shot 38% from three in the playoffs.
That is a huge outlier performance from him.
One he hasn't been able to duplicate since.
That is what I meant by hot. |
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