My fondest memory is today. The day they are finally free of him.
Seriously though Deng was a good player at one point in his career. It's a shame the Lakers only caught the washed up version that they had to pay for six years.
Ah yes, the season we signed Luol Deng and Timofey Mozgov to big contracts. Good times.
And y'all think LeGM is the worst GM
What I think really hurts (to this day) about these deals is not only how horrible they were in setting our franchise back YEARS, but these were also deals completed within the first few hours of free agency when a lot of the "big" names had still not even agreed to contracts. While I'm not saying the FO would have secured any of those big names, at least letting the market settle and some of that FA money dry up some, it's possible these deals don't turn out as bad (or happen at all).
Lakers really bid against themselves there on these two. And if either of the MosDeng deals never happened because we didn't offer to pay them as much, things would have turned out infinitely better.
Ah yes, the season we signed Luol Deng and Timofey Mozgov to big contracts. Good times.
And y'all think LeGM is the worst GM
What I think really hurts (to this day) about these deals is not only how horrible they were in setting our franchise back YEARS, but these were also deals completed within the first few hours of free agency when a lot of the "big" names had still not even agreed to contracts. While I'm not saying the FO would have secured any of those big names, at least letting the market settle and some of that FA money dry up some, it's possible these deals don't turn out as bad (or happen at all).
Lakers really bid against themselves there on these two. And if either of the MosDeng deals never happened because we didn't offer to pay them as much, things would have turned out infinitely better.
The lengths were unforgivable, the amounts we may have been able to live with.
Ah yes, the season we signed Luol Deng and Timofey Mozgov to big contracts. Good times.
And y'all think LeGM is the worst GM
What I think really hurts (to this day) about these deals is not only how horrible they were in setting our franchise back YEARS, but these were also deals completed within the first few hours of free agency when a lot of the "big" names had still not even agreed to contracts. While I'm not saying the FO would have secured any of those big names, at least letting the market settle and some of that FA money dry up some, it's possible these deals don't turn out as bad (or happen at all).
Lakers really bid against themselves there on these two. And if either of the MosDeng deals never happened because we didn't offer to pay them as much, things would have turned out infinitely better.
The lengths were unforgivable, the amounts we may have been able to live with.
I'd have been fine with either 1-2 year deals at high AAV, or 4 year deals at a reasonable amount, like $6M. That's palatable and something that could easily be packaged together in a trade as filler.
But at $16M-$18M per season, those became toxic contracts before the ink was even dry.
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 12:03 pm Post subject:
Lamar's Bud wrote:
ThePageDude wrote:
Lamar's Bud wrote:
Triumph wrote:
Ah yes, the season we signed Luol Deng and Timofey Mozgov to big contracts. Good times.
And y'all think LeGM is the worst GM
What I think really hurts (to this day) about these deals is not only how horrible they were in setting our franchise back YEARS, but these were also deals completed within the first few hours of free agency when a lot of the "big" names had still not even agreed to contracts. While I'm not saying the FO would have secured any of those big names, at least letting the market settle and some of that FA money dry up some, it's possible these deals don't turn out as bad (or happen at all).
Lakers really bid against themselves there on these two. And if either of the MosDeng deals never happened because we didn't offer to pay them as much, things would have turned out infinitely better.
The lengths were unforgivable, the amounts we may have been able to live with.
I'd have been fine with either 1-2 year deals at high AAV, or 4 year deals at a reasonable amount, like $6M. That's palatable and something that could easily be packaged together in a trade as filler.
But at $16M-$18M per season, those became toxic contracts before the ink was even dry.
To this day, I still don’t understand the rationale. Mitch and Jim had a deadline for when they needed to make it back to the WCF. But they really thought Deng and Mozgov would even make us a playoff team? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Ah yes, the season we signed Luol Deng and Timofey Mozgov to big contracts. Good times.
And y'all think LeGM is the worst GM
What I think really hurts (to this day) about these deals is not only how horrible they were in setting our franchise back YEARS, but these were also deals completed within the first few hours of free agency when a lot of the "big" names had still not even agreed to contracts. While I'm not saying the FO would have secured any of those big names, at least letting the market settle and some of that FA money dry up some, it's possible these deals don't turn out as bad (or happen at all).
Lakers really bid against themselves there on these two. And if either of the MosDeng deals never happened because we didn't offer to pay them as much, things would have turned out infinitely better.
The lengths were unforgivable, the amounts we may have been able to live with.
I'd have been fine with either 1-2 year deals at high AAV, or 4 year deals at a reasonable amount, like $6M. That's palatable and something that could easily be packaged together in a trade as filler.
But at $16M-$18M per season, those became toxic contracts before the ink was even dry.
To this day, I still don’t understand the rationale. Mitch and Jim had a deadline for when they needed to make it back to the WCF. But they really thought Deng and Mozgov would even make us a playoff team?
They thought that MozDeng would be good mentors for the youth movement and that the youths would take over by the time the 4 years expired
PLUS
they thought they would have AT LEAST 1, if not 2, amnesties available to them to get rid of these contracts, if needed. (Jeanie either didn't know herself, or neglected to tell Jim/Mitch that the owners had nixed the idea of having any amnesties).
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 2:22 pm Post subject: Re: Thank you LUOL DENG
JamaalWilkes wrote:
As of tonight, Luol Deng is no longer on the Lakers payroll.
What are some of your fondest memories of his Lakers tenure?
My memories are about how the Lakers screwed him over. They refused to play him to try to force him into accepting a buyout. I thought that was unprofessional and reflected badly on the organization.
Lakers fans sometimes have bought into a mythology that the Lakers treat players better than other teams because we have rewarded a few stars with huge contracts. Personally, I think the Lakers operate from the same base of self-interest as everyone else.
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:14 pm Post subject:
ThePageDude wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Lamar's Bud wrote:
ThePageDude wrote:
Lamar's Bud wrote:
Triumph wrote:
Ah yes, the season we signed Luol Deng and Timofey Mozgov to big contracts. Good times.
And y'all think LeGM is the worst GM
What I think really hurts (to this day) about these deals is not only how horrible they were in setting our franchise back YEARS, but these were also deals completed within the first few hours of free agency when a lot of the "big" names had still not even agreed to contracts. While I'm not saying the FO would have secured any of those big names, at least letting the market settle and some of that FA money dry up some, it's possible these deals don't turn out as bad (or happen at all).
Lakers really bid against themselves there on these two. And if either of the MosDeng deals never happened because we didn't offer to pay them as much, things would have turned out infinitely better.
The lengths were unforgivable, the amounts we may have been able to live with.
I'd have been fine with either 1-2 year deals at high AAV, or 4 year deals at a reasonable amount, like $6M. That's palatable and something that could easily be packaged together in a trade as filler.
But at $16M-$18M per season, those became toxic contracts before the ink was even dry.
To this day, I still don’t understand the rationale. Mitch and Jim had a deadline for when they needed to make it back to the WCF. But they really thought Deng and Mozgov would even make us a playoff team?
They thought that MozDeng would be good mentors for the youth movement and that the youths would take over by the time the 4 years expired
PLUS
they thought they would have AT LEAST 1, if not 2, amnesties available to them to get rid of these contracts, if needed. (Jeanie either didn't know herself, or neglected to tell Jim/Mitch that the owners had nixed the idea of having any amnesties).
I guess the assumptions of amnesties makes it less crazy. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
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Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: Thank you LUOL DENG
activeverb wrote:
JamaalWilkes wrote:
As of tonight, Luol Deng is no longer on the Lakers payroll.
What are some of your fondest memories of his Lakers tenure?
My memories are about how the Lakers screwed him over. They refused to play him to try to force him into accepting a buyout. I thought that was unprofessional and reflected badly on the organization.
Lakers fans sometimes have bought into a mythology that the Lakers treat players better than other teams because we have rewarded a few stars with huge contracts. Personally, I think the Lakers operate from the same base of self-interest as everyone else.
Really, it’s only Kobe who they treated well. Look at how they didn’t even want to pay a guy like Caruso, who had been a key contributor to a championship. Or how they shipped out KCP, Kuzma, Green, McGee etc. without a second thought despite them being key championship contributors. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Thank you LUOL DENG
CandyCanes wrote:
activeverb wrote:
JamaalWilkes wrote:
As of tonight, Luol Deng is no longer on the Lakers payroll.
What are some of your fondest memories of his Lakers tenure?
My memories are about how the Lakers screwed him over. They refused to play him to try to force him into accepting a buyout. I thought that was unprofessional and reflected badly on the organization.
Lakers fans sometimes have bought into a mythology that the Lakers treat players better than other teams because we have rewarded a few stars with huge contracts. Personally, I think the Lakers operate from the same base of self-interest as everyone else.
Really, it’s only Kobe who they treated well. Look at how they didn’t even want to pay a guy like Caruso, who had been a key contributor to a championship. Or how they shipped out KCP, Kuzma, Green, McGee etc. without a second thought despite them being key championship contributors.
They also gave Kareem a big contract at age 40 that he really didn't deserve at that point.
I don't mind the Lakers trading players who were part of ring teams. If the Lakers can improve the team that way, why not?
I was just calling out the foolishness I see on LG where some fans contend we treat players better than the average team.
Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: Thank you LUOL DENG
activeverb wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
activeverb wrote:
JamaalWilkes wrote:
As of tonight, Luol Deng is no longer on the Lakers payroll.
What are some of your fondest memories of his Lakers tenure?
My memories are about how the Lakers screwed him over. They refused to play him to try to force him into accepting a buyout. I thought that was unprofessional and reflected badly on the organization.
Lakers fans sometimes have bought into a mythology that the Lakers treat players better than other teams because we have rewarded a few stars with huge contracts. Personally, I think the Lakers operate from the same base of self-interest as everyone else.
Really, it’s only Kobe who they treated well. Look at how they didn’t even want to pay a guy like Caruso, who had been a key contributor to a championship. Or how they shipped out KCP, Kuzma, Green, McGee etc. without a second thought despite them being key championship contributors.
They also gave Kareem a big contract at age 40 that he really didn't deserve at that point.
I don't mind the Lakers trading players who were part of ring teams. If the Lakers can improve the team that way, why not?
I was just calling out the foolishness I see on LG where some fans contend we treat players better than the average team.
That, and this mystique that a lot of players want to be Lakers and that it is an honor/privilege to wear the uniform.
My fondest memory is today. The day they are finally free of him.
Seriously though Deng was a good player at one point in his career. It's a shame the Lakers only caught the washed up version that they had to pay for six years.
I think a big part of that was them miscasting him as a 3 playing next to two non-shooting bigs (Moz and Randle) after thriving as a 4 for Miami.
It was an awful combination of desperation and poor roster construction. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
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