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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:26 pm    Post subject:

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When Ham was asked about the staff he was planning to build, he made a point to mention there were a lot of really great young coaches in the NBA. He was shooting straight on what his intentioned were. You just had to read between the lines a little bit.


So we got an interesting coach with intentions to build a "cheap" (in the sense of young and not really big names) staff, I guess it's a win-win for the FO, at least til the season starts hehehe
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:32 pm    Post subject:

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When Ham was asked about the staff he was planning to build, he made a point to mention there were a lot of really great young coaches in the NBA. He was shooting straight on what his intentioned were. You just had to read between the lines a little bit.


So we got an interesting coach with intentions to build a "cheap" (in the sense of young and not really big names) staff, I guess it's a win-win for the FO, at least til the season starts hehehe


It's possible Rob has given Ham some sort of a total budget to work within and that number isn't high -- or -- maybe Ham is identifying young talented coaches he feel understand today's game/are good fits with certain players.

I mean, look how Ime Udoka built his staff. Seems like that's the model Ham wants got use also.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:14 am    Post subject:

Ham is making sure no one on the bench has the fame to threatening his coaching job
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:09 am    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
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When Ham was asked about the staff he was planning to build, he made a point to mention there were a lot of really great young coaches in the NBA. He was shooting straight on what his intentioned were. You just had to read between the lines a little bit.


So we got an interesting coach with intentions to build a "cheap" (in the sense of young and not really big names) staff, I guess it's a win-win for the FO, at least til the season starts hehehe


It's possible Rob has given Ham some sort of a total budget to work within and that number isn't high -- or -- maybe Ham is identifying young talented coaches he feel understand today's game/are good fits with certain players.

I mean, look how Ime Udoka built his staff. Seems like that's the model Ham wants got use also.


Or maybe Ham wants coaches who can be on the floor with the players like he said in an interview.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:23 am    Post subject:

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fans: FO needs to let coach pick his staff

Coach gets to pick his staff

Fans: FO is being cheap with coaching hires.


Exactly! You just can’t satisfy some people! They will always find a way to find negativity in a situation.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:35 am    Post subject:

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Ham is making sure no one on the bench has the fame to threatening his coaching job

Yeah that's one way to look at it. A lot like when Luke hired his staff, a lot of friends vs former experienced head coaches. If you look at our title season, we had Kidd, Hollins etc both guys who went into playoff runs as head coaches on playoff level teams. Kerr always hired experienced former HCs on his staff such as Brown/Gentry/Atkinson etc. It would seem wise to add at least one HC who has been around playoff level teams or ran a playoff level team a few years.

So while I don't make a big deal about stuff like this, I mean lets see their body of work over the next one to two years. The Lakers believe in this guy, and seems Russ already likes him, so have to give him a fair shot.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:49 am    Post subject:

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Ham is making sure no one on the bench has the fame to threatening his coaching job


IIRC, just like Coach Bud. Worked for him, no?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:03 am    Post subject:

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Ham is making sure no one on the bench has the fame to threatening his coaching job


IIRC, just like Coach Bud. Worked for him, no?


And to an extent, Ime Udoka.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:39 am    Post subject:

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Ham is making sure no one on the bench has the fame to threatening his coaching job


Or maybe he is just getting the people he is comfortable with, he knows that are good, and fit what he is doing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:41 am    Post subject:

How many former head coaches does he need to add so that everyone is satisfied? 1? 2?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:48 am    Post subject:

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Ham is making sure no one on the bench has the fame to threatening his coaching job


Or maybe he is just getting the people he is comfortable with, he knows that are good, and fit what he is doing.

You mean what Luke Walton did too?

I wasn't criticising when I made that comment. Just wanted to point out a possible explanation of why he chose those people as his assistant coaches.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:48 am    Post subject:

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Ham is making sure no one on the bench has the fame to threatening his coaching job


Or maybe he is just getting the people he is comfortable with, he knows that are good, and fit what he is doing.

You mean what Luke Walton did too?

I wasn't criticising when I made that comment. Just wanted to point out a possible explanation of why he chose those people as his assistant coaches.

looks like he has an understanding of what we need and hired coaches with a specific focus.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 4:10 pm    Post subject:

I'm guessing Ham isn't all that concerned with job security at this point. He has a 4-year deal, and most of the NBA community looks at it as his taking a chance on the Lakers Org rather than the other way around. He's has stated his ethos is wanting a team of coaches who are "roll up your sleeves" hands on. More geared to the locker room than the board room.

I actually think he would have benefited more from adding a Steve Clifford type. But we'll see how this works out.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:00 am    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
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Ham is making sure no one on the bench has the fame to threatening his coaching job


Or maybe he is just getting the people he is comfortable with, he knows that are good, and fit what he is doing.

You mean what Luke Walton did too?

I wasn't criticising when I made that comment. Just wanted to point out a possible explanation of why he chose those people as his assistant coaches.

looks like he has an understanding of what we need and hired coaches with a specific focus.

I wouldn't go that far. It is difficult to tell what attributes those assistant coaches were hired for because we don't know much about them. When Luke Walton chose his assistant coaches, we didn't know why they were hired in the first place too.

The only thing I am certain with is when we underachieve, there won't be a big name assistant coach who can threaten his job.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:23 am    Post subject:

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Rasheed Wallace will no longer be joining Darvin Ham's coaching staff, per @ShamsCharania

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1551553333973983232
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:27 am    Post subject:

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Rasheed Wallace will no longer be joining Darvin Ham's coaching staff, per @ShamsCharania

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1551553333973983232


Good.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:47 am    Post subject:

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Rasheed Wallace will no longer be joining Darvin Ham's coaching staff, per @ShamsCharania

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1551553333973983232


Good.


Better offer elsewhere?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:31 am    Post subject:

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Rasheed Wallace will no longer be joining Darvin Ham's coaching staff, per @ShamsCharania

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1551553333973983232

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 9:49 am    Post subject:

I knew something didn’t seem right when he was offered the job a couple of weeks ago and he was still not signed
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 10:17 am    Post subject:

Damn, no Sheed = no mentor for AD to teach toughness and attitude.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 1:19 pm    Post subject:

What’s the story?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2022 7:54 pm    Post subject:

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Damn, no Sheed = no mentor for AD to teach toughness and attitude.


Imagine a supposed superstar needing to be taught those things.

I would hope AD has that in him already and just needs to somehow get healthy and stay healthy... unicorn territory.
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The Lakers signed assistant coach Phil Handy to contract extension last week, a source told @espn @andscape. Previously, Handy had one year left on his contract.


https://twitter.com/MarcJSpears/status/1552065685253079040?t=bCfuIXJUzTDHCspJR1awTw&s=19
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:49 pm    Post subject:

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The Lakers signed assistant coach Phil Handy to contract extension last week, a source told @espn @andscape. Previously, Handy had one year left on his contract.


https://twitter.com/MarcJSpears/status/1552065685253079040?t=bCfuIXJUzTDHCspJR1awTw&s=19


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 2:06 am    Post subject:

lakersfan8 wrote:
Ham is making sure no one on the bench has the fame to threatening his coaching job


Or choosing people based on skills instead of other factors
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