maybe it's the Phil Jackson factor still plays a role in Jeannie Buss' coach hiring ever since the Zen master left the team. She has never hired a big name head coach after Phil Jackson, what's she afraid of? someone overtaking her ex's best Laker head coach title?
how's that extra year of Ty Lue's asking price look now? Jeannie Buss should've just give that man the 4 year contract and be done with it.
Lue is irrelevant since they hired a championship winning HC in Vogel after that. Lue probably would have been scapegoated too if he couldn't incorporate Westbrick into the offense. The issue here is our management. They seem to have no clue on how to evaluate talent for coaches and players. If they saw the talent in Lue, they would have paid him off. If they knew Vogel was talented, they would have never fired him. Jeanie is "believing" in Ham. That should tell you what kind of leadership the Lakers have at the top.
On the players side, we know Magic let go of a lot valuable assets but Pelinka also let Caruso and KCP go without much in return.
People could say Denver has Jokic, which is way too talented for the Lakers to match up against. But what about the Kings? Is Sabonis that talented too?
At some point, you have to look at the headcoach and say "you have freaking AD!! USE HIM and stop making up excuses!!" _________________ Playoffs is good enough. - Jeanie Buss 2024
People could say Denver has Jokic, which is way too talented for the Lakers to match up against. But what about the Kings? Is Sabonis that talented too?
At some point, you have to look at the headcoach and say "you have freaking AD!! USE HIM and stop making up excuses!!"
AD has been saying for years he wants to be a PF. He knows these physical centers, especially with skills, are just not this best use of his insane defensive talent. Get AD the C he has been asking for and yes I'm okay with LeBron at the 3.
Aside from that, ya Ham just admitted he has no idea what to do.
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:51 pm Post subject:
lakersfever714 wrote:
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how's that extra year of Ty Lue's asking price look now? Jeannie Buss should've just give that man the 4 year contract and be done with it.
Lue is irrelevant since they hired a championship winning HC in Vogel after that. Lue probably would have been scapegoated too if he couldn't incorporate Westbrick into the offense. The issue here is our management. They seem to have no clue on how to evaluate talent for coaches and players. If they saw the talent in Lue, they would have paid him off. If they knew Vogel was talented, they would have never fired him. Jeanie is "believing" in Ham. That should tell you what kind of leadership the Lakers have at the top.
On the players side, we know Magic let go of a lot valuable assets but Pelinka also let Caruso and KCP go without much in return.
People could say Denver has Jokic, which is way too talented for the Lakers to match up against. But what about the Kings? Is Sabonis that talented too?
At some point, you have to look at the headcoach and say "you have freaking AD!! USE HIM and stop making up excuses!!"
AD has been saying for years he wants to be a PF. He knows these physical centers, especially with skills, are just not this best use of his insane defensive talent. Get AD the C he has been asking for and yes I'm okay with LeBron at the 3.
Aside from that, ya Ham just admitted he has no idea what to do.
What's Taylor Jenkins contract status?
That's on Pelinka for not knowing how to build a championship team. The one season where we had a true center in Howard and McGee and AD was free to terrorize at the 4, we won the championship. Then Pelinka decided we didn't really need those defensive center and brought in Gasol and midget Harrell instead. The rest was history.
Even without a true 5, with AD being as healthy as he has been, the Lakers shouldn't be out of the original playoff standing and that's on Ham and Ham alone. _________________ Playoffs is good enough. - Jeanie Buss 2024
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:07 am Post subject:
This guy ruins Lakers fans Joy all year
How could a club worth more than a billion dollars do this to The NBA and it's fans?
Oh let's see, we have Bron for 3 more years let's watch him suffer with an imbecile as coach instead of hiring the guy who already helped LeBron earn a title we'll just hire this rookie noob
It's like our Front Office doesn't even like watching basketball
Didn't realize how old LeBron is... wasting a SuperStars final years should be considered some sort of offense against the NBA and it's fans.
*Not a good day for me today and looking forward to watching Ham destroy The Lakers chances for even the play-in just flat out sucks
Looking forward to Lakers games just isn't the same anymore
I think Ham is the worst Laker coach I can remember in my time following the team. At least when the others made mistakes you could kinda see what they were trying to achieve, Ham just makes no sense, like he doesn’t seem to actually understand the game of basketball that well. _________________ Lakers, Chargers, Dodgers, Arsenal FC.
I think Ham is the worst Laker coach I can remember in my time following the team. At least when the others made mistakes you could kinda see what they were trying to achieve, Ham just makes no sense, like he doesn’t seem to actually understand the game of basketball that well.
Dude is a bum.
The worse part? The absolute lack of accountability. _________________ KOBE
I think Ham is the worst Laker coach I can remember in my time following the team. At least when the others made mistakes you could kinda see what they were trying to achieve, Ham just makes no sense, like he doesn’t seem to actually understand the game of basketball that well.
I think Ham is the worst Laker coach I can remember in my time following the team. At least when the others made mistakes you could kinda see what they were trying to achieve, Ham just makes no sense, like he doesn’t seem to actually understand the game of basketball that well.
Dude is a bum.
The worse part? The absolute lack of accountability.
…while preaching that everyone else needs to take it. _________________ 14-5-3-12
…while preaching that everyone else needs to take it.
LOl. The only player who has to deal with any accountability is Dlo. Certainly not our leaders. Hamm needs to go, but we have zero leadership from our our two top dogs. When things go wrong they just shrug it off knowing we have a few scapegoats and a coach to take all of the heat, _________________ Kobe.
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People could say Denver has Jokic, which is way too talented for the Lakers to match up against. But what about the Kings? Is Sabonis that talented too?
At some point, you have to look at the headcoach and say "you have freaking AD!! USE HIM and stop making up excuses!!"
AD has been saying for years he wants to be a PF. He knows these physical centers, especially with skills, are just not this best use of his insane defensive talent. Get AD the C he has been asking for and yes I'm okay with LeBron at the 3.
Aside from that, ya Ham just admitted he has no idea what to do.
What's Taylor Jenkins contract status?
That's on Pelinka for not knowing how to build a championship team. The one season where we had a true center in Howard and McGee and AD was free to terrorize at the 4, we won the championship. Then Pelinka decided we didn't really need those defensive center and brought in Gasol and midget Harrell instead. The rest was history.
Even without a true 5, with AD being as healthy as he has been, the Lakers shouldn't be out of the original playoff standing and that's on Ham and Ham alone.
I disagree with this take and put the blame on Ham. AD is so versatile you can put him anywhere. Ham is just not innovative enough. AD is getting killed by Sabonis, I will put LBJ, Hayes or Rui on him, and let AD be a roamer or the help defender. He is enamored with guards, I do not understand. Healthy AD and LBJ with Vogel coaching this team is top 4 on my opinion. I like this team, there is not really a player I dislike, Ham just don’t know how to use them. Max, Prince, Wood, Hayes, Cam all has value if use correctly and actually have a coach that know how to play defense.
Ham was brought in to help stabilize a rocky WB situation to his credit he did that....but he hasn't shown himself to be a particularly great "X's and O's" which is something this specific team needs right now....
Ham was brought in to help stabilize a rocky WB situation to his credit he did that....but he hasn't shown himself to be a particularly great "X's and O's" which is something this specific team needs right now....
Not sure how he stabilized that situation. He benched Russ, the team still stunk, and the relationship between Russ and the team got so bad the Lakers were having conversations about just sending him home. Then they finally traded him. This part isn’t Ham’s fault. I don’t think anyone could have salvaged that situation. I’m just confused why so many people credit him for handling it. Regardless, if Ham was brought in for the reason of improving the Russ situation that was an extremely short sighted rationale. Russ was an expiring with no chance of the partnership continuing. Everyone knew he was getting traded. So why give a coach a 4 year deal to babysit him for a few months? _________________ 14-5-3-12
Ham was brought in to help stabilize a rocky WB situation to his credit he did that....but he hasn't shown himself to be a particularly great "X's and O's" which is something this specific team needs right now....
Not sure how he stabilized that situation. He benched Russ, the team still stunk, and the relationship between Russ and the team got so bad the Lakers were having conversations about just sending him home. Then they finally traded him. This part isn’t Ham’s fault. I don’t think anyone could have salvaged that situation. I’m just confused why so many people credit him for handling it. Regardless, if Ham was brought in for the reason of improving the Russ situation that was an extremely short sighted rationale. Russ was an expiring with no chance of the partnership continuing. Everyone knew he was getting traded. So why give a coach a 4 year deal to babysit him for a few months?
It’s a legitimate question, mind boggling mismanagement by the front office with Pelinka getting a contract extension for it. That’s after the comedically tragic farce the year before constructing a roster of 8 over the hill former Lakers, 8 guards 6’4” or under, no players between 6’4”-6’8”, plus Deandre Jordan on an already bad fitting roster with the Westbrook addition.
I hate that Vogel had to be fired but it looked like he quit on the team missing the playin so I understand why he had to go, especially since it seemed like Kid was the mastermind behind the Ship success with LBJ going nuclear at PG leading the league in assists. Still, Rob’s extension, Ham’s hiring as a rookie coach for a veteran team, and taking Westbrook to the trade deadline, is just more fodder for the long list of almost unimaginable bad moves by the org.
There is no NBA for me without supporting the Lakers but they have made it impossible for me to do so with seemingly bad moves so egregious it would make more sense if it were sabotage rather than incompetence. From the moves mentioned above plus the moves made regarding Magic to Randle to Lopez to overpay for AD to Dwight/Magee to Rondo to Schroeder to Drummond to Caruso to Schroeder again, so much of it just doesn’t add up.
The saddest part is that despite all that, if Ham had just done what worked last year after the trade deadline the Lakers appear to be a top 4 team in the west with their winning percentage since starting Rui. But he didn’t, and appeared to fail in preparing an appropriate gameplan to start games and appears to improperly use time outs or in game adjustments. Can’t win man, just can’t win is what it looks like to me for now. _________________ “When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”
Michigan announces that head coach Juwan Howard will not return next season.
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The buyout for Howard is $3 million, which is quite small for a coach who'd had the recent success that he achieved. Michigan was a No. 1 seed in 2021 NCAAs and Howard had consistent NBA interest the past few years.
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:08 am Post subject:
ocho wrote:
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Michigan announces that head coach Juwan Howard will not return next season.
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The buyout for Howard is $3 million, which is quite small for a coach who'd had the recent success that he achieved. Michigan was a No. 1 seed in 2021 NCAAs and Howard had consistent NBA interest the past few years.
Interesting….
Do it Mitch!
Haven't seen Kupchak brought up in forever
Do it Mitch!
Haven't seen Kupchak brought up in forever
Sadly, he failed out of the Hornets recently. He had his moments with us for sure and for that I'll be forever grateful to him. But he was also a willing participant / hostage to the legendary Jim-Buss-And-Chaz era, and the Mozdeng deal was hard to bounce back from. Charlotte never once made the playoffs in the 6 years he ran the team.
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