Head Coach Mr. DARVIN HAM Thread

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[yinoma2001]

I wonder how a 6'3/6'2 backcourt of Russ/Nunn will defend. Neither noted as top notch defenders. Say we play the Clips, who is guarding PG13? Nunn? Russ?
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[yinoma2001]

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[lakersfever714]

I hope we find one solid starting lineup and keep it for the entire season. Changing the starting lineup all the time is bad for the team chemistry and the players don't like it.

Ham saying there will be "other options" to replace Russ if he doesn't play defense to Ham's standard is setting the team up for controversy and lineup changes, which would negatively affect the team's chemistry.

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Lol. Ok then...

Per Woike

Darvin Ham said he speaks to Quin Snyder once a week - joked that he’s working for the Lakers pro bono while collecting a “Utah check.”

https://twitter.com/danwoikesports/status/1580664096017420289?s=46&t=wG2CLTRL5d93wOOc_Q5Gfw

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Ham please don't follow Vogel's path.

Understand that shooting is todays #1 priority.

You want to see us blow a team out real quick?

Who are our best shooters?

I took the last 3-4 years average

LeBron 36% on 6 attemps
Davis 30% on 2 attemps
Bryant 35% 2 attempts
Lonnie 34% on 4 attempts
Dennis 34% on 3.3 attempts
Tuscano 36% on 1.6 attempts
Brick 29% on 3.7 attemps
Beverly 39% on 4 attempts
Brown 33% on 3 attempts
Nunn 37% on 6 attempts
Gabriel 34% on 1 attempt

Unless we want to take the eye test (Matt and Snyder) our best shooters are Beverly, Nunn, Tuscano and Bryant outside of our big 2.

Thats good because Beverly and Tuscano both play tought D.

But Tuscano is volume shy so he must play with Nunn's high volume.

PG.Nunn
SG.Beverly
SF.LeBron
PF.Tuscano
C.Davis

That is your best line up. I really wish beverly was 6"6 but whatever.


That is your style right there.

At least 2 guys if hitting 40% from 3 and other guys who can shoot well enough.

You can also move Bryant at C and Tuscano out.

Let dennis be Dennis:

PG.Dennis
SG.Matt / Walker
SF.Snyder / Walker
PF.Gabriel
C.Bryant

As time goes on try to flip Brick, Reeves, Walker, Jones, for people who can shoot to replace either natt or snyder if they cant d up.

Sorry if you are going to play you will need to hit 3s other wise you are not helping.

And I would just let things play out for 15 games of consistent style of play.

LeBron and Dennis are the main ball handlers, always 2 40% shooters on the floor and at least 3 defenders per line up...

Yea there are holes in this but its our best option and the line ups can be switched around but the point is we need to play people who can shoot.


Defensively our bench might seem limited but we won't do 5 man subs

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Lakers hit me up ill do data science and data engineering free of charge, lets fix this mess..

Remove personal bias from our process and embrace the numbers.


Brick sorry the numbers say you cant play u till these numbers change

[yinoma2001]

Ham can only cook with the ingredients he's been given by Rob.

6 guards? 5 of them are 6'4 and under? Go work with that Ham!

Oh, and the team as a whole is bottom 5 in preseason shooting at 29%, a level that Russ shot last year.

So no shooting. No size. And Lakers will stand pat on a Russ trade for now too.
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[wolfpaclaker]

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Vogel's path led to a ring. I don't think he had a bad plan, I think he just lost the team once it became clear things weren't going to work and that WB was not fitting in. There was no way they could trade back for the team they once had. The plans, even using Bron as a 5, they seemed to be good. We didn't have health or the right pieces (Nor did WB fit in at all). Factor his lame duck status with the weak contract extension he was toast by mid-season. Very poorly handled situation by our FO.

As we've seen in preseason, even with a younger more athletic group, so long as you keep trying to fit the same sort of general model of roster building, there's a lot of holes. Even a great coach would struggle with what we had last year and even this year, I think a great could could struggle to have this team win at a 50 win pace.

I like Ham's 4-1 sets. They are good. But we have some fundamental issues with AD/Bron. Is AD a 5? Is Bron better at 4? Is Bron still going to get some run at the backup 5? IE are we playing AD/Bron + small ball? Or are we playing big? Because this issue has dragged on for a long time now.

Here's the fundamental problem any coach (even GOAT Phil Jackson) would face.

1) Westbrook is not a shooter, and historically teams who have superstars need a running mate that can spread the floor. So when WB brings the ball up, your opposing team's ball stopper can sag way off him. Much easier to defend when you can do this, Phil used Kobe this way in 2010-11 to beat them. In this era, even more impact if your PG is a complete non-shooter from outside.

2) When you play big with AD/Bron, you gain defensive rim protection, but the paint gets even more clogged on on offense and teams get more 3 point shots off. We have vet min level Cs but they're not going to fit with AD/Bron and WB as a non-shooter at PG.

3) When you play smaller with AD/Bron at the 5/4 the lack of talent at the 3/2 with wings like KCP/Kuz/Green/Caruso all gone, means the Lakers lack the abilty to pull off AD/Bron 5/4 lineups. We end up being way too small like we saw against Minny, Bev/WB etc.

Ultimately I don't fault Ham, he's trying to figure this out and has some nice 4-1 sets and if it's true Snyder is helping him that's great. They will do the best they can. But the dude we extended .... man what a sham and joke. Took a ring team and end up making it in a way where we can neither succeed playing big with AD at the 4/Bron at the 3 or AD at the 5/Bron at the 4 with quaity wings around them. Jeanie, seriously.

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[yinoma2001]

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[Megaton]

Wow look at that. Ham did in a few games that Vogel outright refused to do for an entire season.

Bravo Ham. Vogel get wrecked.
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[jodeke]

Not only is Ham bringing Russ off the bench he's also starting AD at the 5. Moves that go against players' wishes. Finally, we have a coach with grande pelotas.
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