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Halflife
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I remember during our bubble run most were saying the heat were only there because of it.
Crazy to fast forward and they are still competing without it.
Even suns had a crazy run during it and have gotten better . Not quite championship ready but the bubble for them was no fluke. |
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BILBJH
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| BILBJH wrote: | Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
There is a link posted. Jimmy didn’t want to play with bron. |
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| BILBJH wrote: | Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
Shouldn't you be happy today that pelicans got 2 lottery picks? |
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
There is a link posted. Jimmy didn’t want to play with bron. |
Or kawhii when he was begging him to join on the clippers...
https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/2019/07/08/report-kawhi-leonard-asked-jimmy-butler-to-pair-up-before-paul-george/
But hey.. |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
There is a link posted. Jimmy didn’t want to play with bron. |
Or kawhii when he was begging him to join on the clippers...
https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/2019/07/08/report-kawhi-leonard-asked-jimmy-butler-to-pair-up-before-paul-george/
But hey.. |
Wrong message board. |
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mad55557777
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| BILBJH wrote: | Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
These 2 events had nothing to do with each other. We could’ve traded for AD and signed butler, but he didn’t want to play with lebron (not a good combo), and snake Kawhi happened. My ideal 3rd wheel for lebron and AD is PG13, but it just wasn’t meant to be |
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
There is a link posted. Jimmy didn’t want to play with bron. |
Or kawhii when he was begging him to join on the clippers...
https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/2019/07/08/report-kawhi-leonard-asked-jimmy-butler-to-pair-up-before-paul-george/
But hey.. |
Wrong message board. |
Ur agenda got exposed?
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kikanga
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I feel like people forget that insane Leonard bouncing shot to win the series was only needed because Jimmy without a timeout just charged down the floor to tie the game?
Jimothy Butler has been lights out, tough as nails 3 out of the last 4 playoffs. And it's been like that for a while now. He probably would have a chip already if Pau didn't get hurt in Chicago. |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
There is a link posted. Jimmy didn’t want to play with bron. |
Or kawhii when he was begging him to join on the clippers...
https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/2019/07/08/report-kawhi-leonard-asked-jimmy-butler-to-pair-up-before-paul-george/
But hey.. |
Wrong message board. |
Ur agenda got exposed?
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If you want to talk clippers I’m sure there is a safe space.
It was just mentioned why butler didn’t come here. Like kawai, Pg, kd, kyrie he didn’t want to play with bron.
Don’t get so triggered. #golakers |
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
There is a link posted. Jimmy didn’t want to play with bron. |
Or kawhii when he was begging him to join on the clippers...
https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/2019/07/08/report-kawhi-leonard-asked-jimmy-butler-to-pair-up-before-paul-george/
But hey.. |
Wrong message board. |
Ur agenda got exposed?
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If you want to talk clippers I’m sure there is a safe space.
It was just mentioned why butler didn’t come here. Like kawai, Pg, kd, kyrie he didn’t want to play with bron.
Don’t get so triggered. #golakers |
In ur LeBron hate or Westbrook love u forgot to acknowledge the real thing
Jimmy wanted his own team
Don't let ur LeBron hate cloud the reality |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
There is a link posted. Jimmy didn’t want to play with bron. |
Or kawhii when he was begging him to join on the clippers...
https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/2019/07/08/report-kawhi-leonard-asked-jimmy-butler-to-pair-up-before-paul-george/
But hey.. |
Wrong message board. |
Ur agenda got exposed?
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If you want to talk clippers I’m sure there is a safe space.
It was just mentioned why butler didn’t come here. Like kawai, Pg, kd, kyrie he didn’t want to play with bron.
Don’t get so triggered. #golakers |
In ur LeBron hate or Westbrook love u forgot to acknowledge the real thing
Jimmy wanted his own team
Don't let ur LeBron hate cloud the reality |
So pg, kl. What about them. Jimmy wanted a team without bron on it.
It’s ok. The lakers will be on the up in two years. |
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
There is a link posted. Jimmy didn’t want to play with bron. |
Or kawhii when he was begging him to join on the clippers...
https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/2019/07/08/report-kawhi-leonard-asked-jimmy-butler-to-pair-up-before-paul-george/
But hey.. |
Wrong message board. |
Ur agenda got exposed?
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If you want to talk clippers I’m sure there is a safe space.
It was just mentioned why butler didn’t come here. Like kawai, Pg, kd, kyrie he didn’t want to play with bron.
Don’t get so triggered. #golakers |
In ur LeBron hate or Westbrook love u forgot to acknowledge the real thing
Jimmy wanted his own team
Don't let ur LeBron hate cloud the reality |
So pg, kl. What about them. Jimmy wanted a team without bron on it.
It’s ok. The lakers will be on the up in two years. |
1 year after Westbrook is off the team or this summer when Westbrook is off
Addition by subtraction |
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BILBJH
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| Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
Shouldn't you be happy today that pelicans got 2 lottery picks? |
If I was a Pelicans fan I'd be very happy about their future.
Sadly I've been a Lakers fan my whole life unlike you LeBron simps who sit here and protect him all day long.
Why would I waste time here arguing for ways to rebuild the Lakers if my own team was the Pelicans?
It would save me a lot of heartache just to root for them instead. |
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mixtim
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I enjoyed that third quarter
I mean,a lot |
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PenG_
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Dennis100mtrash wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | Man, how much better off would we be if we had targeted Butler instead of trading for AD.
The dude is a stud on both ends of the floor.
Maybe he was too alpha for LBJ's tastes... but that's the guy we should have taken. |
There is a link posted. Jimmy didn’t want to play with bron. |
Or kawhii when he was begging him to join on the clippers...
https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/2019/07/08/report-kawhi-leonard-asked-jimmy-butler-to-pair-up-before-paul-george/
But hey.. |
Wrong message board. |
Ur agenda got exposed?
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If you want to talk clippers I’m sure there is a safe space.
It was just mentioned why butler didn’t come here. Like kawai, Pg, kd, kyrie he didn’t want to play with bron.
Don’t get so triggered. #golakers |
In ur LeBron hate or Westbrook love u forgot to acknowledge the real thing
Jimmy wanted his own team
Don't let ur LeBron hate cloud the reality |
So pg, kl. What about them. Jimmy wanted a team without bron on it.
It’s ok. The lakers will be on the up in two years. |
It's a shame you can't just loiter in the LeBron thread like Dries. Don't pollute a good thread with your BS, thanks. |
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Jimmy Butler playoff ranks
RAPTOR: 1st
PER: 1st
WS/48: 1st
BPM: 1st
STL%: 1st
2nd half put the clamps on Tatum and held him to 1-7 FG and 6 turnovers, team worst -22. |
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| kikanga wrote: | I feel like people forget that insane Leonard bouncing shot to win the series was only needed because Jimmy without a timeout just charged down the floor to tie the game?
Jimothy Butler has been lights out, tough as nails 3 out of the last 4 playoffs. And it's been like that for a while now. He probably would have a chip already if Pau didn't get hurt in Chicago. |
LBJ/Jimmy/AD would have been an insane trio.
It's unfortunate that the Lakers were led on a deliberate expedition by Kawhi to sabotage their FA. We got the last laugh with signing Green and winning the ring, while Kawhi and PG13 remain ringless.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | I feel like people forget that insane Leonard bouncing shot to win the series was only needed because Jimmy without a timeout just charged down the floor to tie the game?
Jimothy Butler has been lights out, tough as nails 3 out of the last 4 playoffs. And it's been like that for a while now. He probably would have a chip already if Pau didn't get hurt in Chicago. |
LBJ/Jimmy/AD would have been an insane trio.
It's unfortunate that the Lakers were led on a deliberate expedition by Kawhi to sabotage their FA. We got the last laugh with signing Green and winning the ring, while Kawhi and PG13 remain ringless. |
Jimmy strikes me as a guy that needs to be the man to really make the impact. I don't think he would have been better than KCP/Green (the money we used to sign them after Kawhi played us).
If you think about it- Jimmy played with more talent in Minnesota and Philly - but wore out his welcome fast. He's not a guy I see would have fit well with Lebron personality wise.
On paper it looks great. There has been some big 3s that have worked for Lebron, but the guys that played with Lebron as a big 3 were willing to take a big backseat. Such as Bosh/Wade. Or Love. Kyrie wanted out after a while. Jimmy is not a guy I think would have been ok with the way Lebron does things and would have been a lot of issues, IMO.
What we needed to do is keep KCP (or upgrade to a better player with similar skills/role) and upgrade Green (like we tried at first with Dennis) and find a younger big to take over for what Howard was doing for AD (Not having him defend physical 5s). The entire blue print was/is there, but the Lakers don't even want to go there. |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | I feel like people forget that insane Leonard bouncing shot to win the series was only needed because Jimmy without a timeout just charged down the floor to tie the game?
Jimothy Butler has been lights out, tough as nails 3 out of the last 4 playoffs. And it's been like that for a while now. He probably would have a chip already if Pau didn't get hurt in Chicago. |
LBJ/Jimmy/AD would have been an insane trio.
It's unfortunate that the Lakers were led on a deliberate expedition by Kawhi to sabotage their FA. We got the last laugh with signing Green and winning the ring, while Kawhi and PG13 remain ringless. |
Jimmy strikes me as a guy that needs to be the man to really make the impact. I don't think he would have been better than KCP/Green (the money we used to sign them after Kawhi played us).
If you think about it- Jimmy played with more talent in Minnesota and Philly - but wore out his welcome fast. He's not a guy I see would have fit well with Lebron personality wise.
On paper it looks great. There has been some big 3s that have worked for Lebron, but the guys that played with Lebron as a big 3 were willing to take a big backseat. Such as Bosh/Wade. Or Love. Kyrie wanted out after a while. Jimmy is not a guy I think would have been ok with the way Lebron does things and would have been a lot of issues, IMO.
What we needed to do is keep KCP (or upgrade to a better player with similar skills/role) and upgrade Green (like we tried at first with Dennis) and find a younger big to take over for what Howard was doing for AD (Not having him defend physical 5s). The entire blue print was/is there, but the Lakers don't even want to go there. |
I'm just saying that IF the Lakers had to go for a superstar trio, I'd take Jimmy over adding Kawhi or Russ now obviously.
Like I said, it ended up working out for us so I'm not that heartbroken over it (and I agree that we had a working blueprint that we smashed this past offseason trading for Russ).
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Spoelstra is amazing.
Tatum is awesome but he's nowhere near the MVP level |
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| danzag wrote: | Spoelstra is amazing.
Tatum is awesome but he's nowhere near the MVP level |
Tatum will probably have a good game 2 4th quarter and people will overrate him again.
The cycle.
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| epic_ wrote: | | danzag wrote: | Spoelstra is amazing.
Tatum is awesome but he's nowhere near the MVP level |
Tatum will probably have a good game 2 4th quarter and people will overrate him again.
The cycle. |
You nailed it, that's LG for you right there. |
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| Posted: Wed May 18, 2022 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| epic_ wrote: | | danzag wrote: | Spoelstra is amazing.
Tatum is awesome but he's nowhere near the MVP level |
Tatum will probably have a good game 2 4th quarter and people will overrate him again.
The cycle. |
He will always be better than Lonzo Ball, that is all that matters as a Laker fan.
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I'm I the only one hesitant to call this win impressive.
Not much talk about how Boston is missing 2 starters . The DPOY and possibly their MVP of the last series.
I mean Boston is not very deep, so those two missing are big loss esp on the defensive end and horford offense with the ability to space as a big.
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