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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:47 am Post subject: Who's the next big target? |
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I dont expect anything big this deadline or offseason (outside of a THT trade, MLE signing and vet mins).
But come Summer 2023 when Bron, THT and everyone not named AD is off the books.
Who are we targeting?
We still wont really have trade assets so it'll be FA for us.
• James Harden (might extend before then prob)
• Brad Beal (might extend before then prob)
• Kyrie Irving
• Nikola Jokic --> i dont see him leaving
• Khris Middleton --> i dont see him leaving
• Fred VanVleet
• Myles Turner
• Bogdan Bogdanovic
• Gary Trent Jr
• Christian Wood
• Kyle Kuzma
• Josh Hart
Or are we punting 2023 to Summer 2024 with Paul George, Dame, Kawhi, Siakam, Jrue, CJ McCollum, Klay, KAT, D-Book? _________________ 24 |
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2019 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Who's the next big target? |
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iimarshon wrote: | I dont expect anything big this deadline or offseason (outside of a THT trade, MLE signing and vet mins).
But come Summer 2023 when Bron, THT and everyone not named AD is off the books.
Who are we targeting?
We still wont really have trade assets so it'll be FA for us.
• James Harden (might extend before then prob)
• Brad Beal (might extend before then prob)
• Kyrie Irving
• Nikola Jokic --> i dont see him leaving
• Khris Middleton --> i dont see him leaving
• Fred VanVleet
• Myles Turner
• Bogdan Bogdanovic
• Gary Trent Jr
• Christian Wood
• Kyle Kuzma
• Josh Hart
Or are we punting 2023 to Summer 2024 with Paul George, Dame, Kawhi, Siakam, Jrue, CJ McCollum, Klay, KAT, D-Book? |
Jokic is the obvious answer here but I don't see him leaving and none of the rest of those guys excite me. I would say you wait til 2024 if Jokic re-ups and go for Booker and Towns to pair with AD. Meh. |
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iimarshon Star Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:51 am Post subject: Re: Who's the next big target? |
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2019 wrote: | iimarshon wrote: | I dont expect anything big this deadline or offseason (outside of a THT trade, MLE signing and vet mins).
But come Summer 2023 when Bron, THT and everyone not named AD is off the books.
Who are we targeting?
We still wont really have trade assets so it'll be FA for us.
• James Harden (might extend before then prob)
• Brad Beal (might extend before then prob)
• Kyrie Irving
• Nikola Jokic --> i dont see him leaving
• Khris Middleton --> i dont see him leaving
• Fred VanVleet
• Myles Turner
• Bogdan Bogdanovic
• Gary Trent Jr
• Christian Wood
• Kyle Kuzma
• Josh Hart
Or are we punting 2023 to Summer 2024 with Paul George, Dame, Kawhi, Siakam, Jrue, CJ McCollum, Klay, KAT, D-Book? |
Jokic is the obvious answer here but I don't see him leaving and none of the rest of those guys excite me. I would say you wait til 2024 if Jokic re-ups and go for Booker and Towns to pair with AD. Meh. |
Agree. You probably try to punt. Though interesting how that will work out with Bron.
I could see Bron re-upping for 1-2 years at a less than max but only if we're signing a third star type. _________________ 24 |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:00 am Post subject: |
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we dont need another star unless its in return for AD.
Myles would be ideal
Grant would be excellent
Covington wouldn't be bad
THT, reaves, Nunn plus exception are a decent package. |
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SGV-Laker fan Star Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:04 am Post subject: |
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in typical Buss family fashion: 38 year old KD for max in 2026 |
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RI Laker Star Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:10 am Post subject: |
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Lottery pick in the 2026 draft. |
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cheesehead88 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Who's the next big target? |
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Does this mean DLO coming back too?
DLO
Booker
Towns
AD
D’Andre Jordan
2019 wrote: | iimarshon wrote: | I dont expect anything big this deadline or offseason (outside of a THT trade, MLE signing and vet mins).
But come Summer 2023 when Bron, THT and everyone not named AD is off the books.
Who are we targeting?
We still wont really have trade assets so it'll be FA for us.
• James Harden (might extend before then prob)
• Brad Beal (might extend before then prob)
• Kyrie Irving
• Nikola Jokic --> i dont see him leaving
• Khris Middleton --> i dont see him leaving
• Fred VanVleet
• Myles Turner
• Bogdan Bogdanovic
• Gary Trent Jr
• Christian Wood
• Kyle Kuzma
• Josh Hart
Or are we punting 2023 to Summer 2024 with Paul George, Dame, Kawhi, Siakam, Jrue, CJ McCollum, Klay, KAT, D-Book? |
Jokic is the obvious answer here but I don't see him leaving and none of the rest of those guys excite me. I would say you wait til 2024 if Jokic re-ups and go for Booker and Towns to pair with AD. Meh. |
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activeverb Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Who's the next big target? |
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iimarshon wrote: | I dont expect anything big this deadline or offseason (outside of a THT trade, MLE signing and vet mins).
But come Summer 2023 when Bron, THT and everyone not named AD is off the books.
Who are we targeting?
We still wont really have trade assets so it'll be FA for us.
• James Harden (might extend before then prob)
• Brad Beal (might extend before then prob)
• Kyrie Irving
• Nikola Jokic --> i dont see him leaving
• Khris Middleton --> i dont see him leaving
• Fred VanVleet
• Myles Turner
• Bogdan Bogdanovic
• Gary Trent Jr
• Christian Wood
• Kyle Kuzma
• Josh Hart
Or are we punting 2023 to Summer 2024 with Paul George, Dame, Kawhi, Siakam, Jrue, CJ McCollum, Klay, KAT, D-Book? |
Too far away to guess. A lot can happen between now and then that would make any guesses today moot. |
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roger_federer Star Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:38 am Post subject: |
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John Wall
kemba Walker |
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pio2u Retired Number
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:14 am Post subject: |
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roger_federer wrote: | John Wall
kemba Walker |
for Vet min? can't hurt |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Who's the next big target? |
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iimarshon wrote: | I dont expect anything big this deadline or offseason (outside of a THT trade, MLE signing and vet mins).
But come Summer 2023 when Bron, THT and everyone not named AD is off the books.
Who are we targeting?
We still wont really have trade assets so it'll be FA for us.
• James Harden (might extend before then prob)
• Brad Beal (might extend before then prob)
• Kyrie Irving
• Nikola Jokic --> i dont see him leaving
• Khris Middleton --> i dont see him leaving
• Fred VanVleet
• Myles Turner
• Bogdan Bogdanovic
• Gary Trent Jr
• Christian Wood
• Kyle Kuzma
• Josh Hart
Or are we punting 2023 to Summer 2024 with Paul George, Dame, Kawhi, Siakam, Jrue, CJ McCollum, Klay, KAT, D-Book? |
i think Lebron plays another year because he will likely be short of the record after next season, and with the way he is playing now, it's hard to see him retire before the record. if i am lebron, i'd go for that record because that one will likely stay for a long long time. career 27PPg and 20 seasons will be almost impossible to beat.
not sure what salary is he looking for, maybe we can go for one max in 2023 or 2 mid tier FAs. Beal would obviously be top of the list. |
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krisobe Star Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Jerami Grant. |
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Cutheon Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:30 am Post subject: |
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I could see Jokic leaving. Denver is not going to build a contender around him, and they've failed repeatedly. At a certain point, that much losing year-in, year-out wears on a man. There's only so many times you can lose wearing the same jersey. Only so many times you can get yelled at by Mike Malone. Only so many times you can look around you and realize the best they could do is give you an injured Michael Porter Jr and the oft-injured Jamal Murray.
Besides, we have a tradition of big men. Not that this would sway Jokic, per se, but it may sway Jeanie -- who is obsessed with tradition -- to make a very big push for Jokic.
Finally, Jokic and AD would be the perfect modern front court. AD finally has the big boned center he's always wanted, and Jokic has a surefire defensive stud backing his mistakes. We'd control the boards, have spacing, and one of the best passing big man in league history playing alongside one of the best finishing big men in league history. Jokic would likely be interested in playing alongside him --- since, as far as ego's go and those considerations, Jokic would remain a proper top dog, and AD can rest easy knowing he has another, greater star to absorb pressure. (Jokic, as we've seen, has no problem being a top player on a competitive playoff squad.)
Of course, it would come down to what we can build around them. And it would place a LOT of pressure on our third best player, who would HAVE to be our main ball-handler/perimeter initiator. Could that be a reduced LeBron on reduced salary? (Hard to see.... but, we saw how effective he was with Marc -- imagine his genius complementing Jokic, and vice-versa.) |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Who's the next big target? |
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iimarshon wrote: | I dont expect anything big this deadline or offseason (outside of a THT trade, MLE signing and vet mins).
But come Summer 2023 when Bron, THT and everyone not named AD is off the books.
Who are we targeting?
We still wont really have trade assets so it'll be FA for us.
• James Harden (might extend before then prob)
• Brad Beal (might extend before then prob)
• Kyrie Irving
• Nikola Jokic --> i dont see him leaving
• Khris Middleton --> i dont see him leaving
• Fred VanVleet
• Myles Turner
• Bogdan Bogdanovic
• Gary Trent Jr
• Christian Wood
• Kyle Kuzma
• Josh Hart
Or are we punting 2023 to Summer 2024 with Paul George, Dame, Kawhi, Siakam, Jrue, CJ McCollum, Klay, KAT, D-Book? |
None of the above except KAT, Myles Turner. or Jokic.
But neither is coming here without AD. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:32 am Post subject: |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | in typical Buss family fashion: 38 year old KD for max in 2026 |
Someone tell them what Shaq’s age was when daddy (RIP) signed him! |
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AD23 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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B-E-A-L |
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krisobe wrote: | Jerami Grant. |
Grant or Simmons... they both play defense. _________________ A three headed monster... Jeannie, Pelinka, and Ham... another terrible season. |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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simmons is the guy. however we have nothing. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | simmons is the guy. however we have nothing. |
I wonder how long it'd take the Lakers fandom to have a collective meltdown after watching Ben Simmons play first hand and what his idea of offense is. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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my dream is Jayson Tatum. prototypical modern day NBA swing man, clutch as hell, and his under 25. i know i won't happen, but that'd be my choice. |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | Halflife wrote: | simmons is the guy. however we have nothing. |
I wonder how long it'd take the Lakers fandom to have a collective meltdown after watching Ben Simmons play first hand and what his idea of offense is. |
Soon for sure but from a defensive standpoint he would greatly improve an improving team.
I am not blaming 76ers.. but I do think the character on our team could help him a bit. |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | my dream is Jayson Tatum. prototypical modern day NBA swing man, clutch as hell, and his under 25. i know i won't happen, but that'd be my choice. |
Me too. Would u trade AD for him. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: Who's the next big target? |
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activeverb wrote: | iimarshon wrote: | I dont expect anything big this deadline or offseason (outside of a THT trade, MLE signing and vet mins).
But come Summer 2023 when Bron, THT and everyone not named AD is off the books.
Who are we targeting?
We still wont really have trade assets so it'll be FA for us.
• James Harden (might extend before then prob)
• Brad Beal (might extend before then prob)
• Kyrie Irving
• Nikola Jokic --> i dont see him leaving
• Khris Middleton --> i dont see him leaving
• Fred VanVleet
• Myles Turner
• Bogdan Bogdanovic
• Gary Trent Jr
• Christian Wood
• Kyle Kuzma
• Josh Hart
Or are we punting 2023 to Summer 2024 with Paul George, Dame, Kawhi, Siakam, Jrue, CJ McCollum, Klay, KAT, D-Book? |
Too far away to guess. A lot can happen between now and then that would make any guesses today moot. |
Plus there is a good chance that Lebron and Westbrook could still be here. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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SGV-Laker fan Star Player
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Halflife wrote: | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | my dream is Jayson Tatum. prototypical modern day NBA swing man, clutch as hell, and his under 25. i know i won't happen, but that'd be my choice. |
Me too. Would u trade AD for him. |
it'll be too good to be true. an often-injured soft big man near 30 for a 23 year old budding super star with clutch gene? would I? of course i would. |
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