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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:15 pm    Post subject:

Monk is a horrible defender
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:15 pm    Post subject:

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Monk was great offensively but was also getting torched on defense especially in OT.

Him not touching the ball most of the OTs was stupid too.

Role players have a really tough job on this team. Lebron and Russ dominate the ball too much.

We need melo and monk on the court for spacing, but why do we need spacing if lebron is going to just back up 3s like that?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:17 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Monk was great offensively but was also getting torched on defense especially in OT.

Him not touching the ball most of the OTs was stupid too.

Role players have a really tough job on this team. Lebron and Russ dominate the ball too much.

We need melo and monk on the court for spacing, but why do we need spacing if lebron is going to just back up 3s like that?


Russ as stupid as his turnovers were…at least was aggressive. Lebron and AD played soft
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:17 pm    Post subject:

Welp, that was a frustrating L.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:18 pm    Post subject:

Was a loss on so many levels not only did they lose the game but third overtime with this old (bleep) roster
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:19 pm    Post subject:

So what, if anything, fixes this terrible team?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:20 pm    Post subject:

Lakesh0wtime wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
Lakesh0wtime wrote:
Monk was great offensively but was also getting torched on defense especially in OT.

Him not touching the ball most of the OTs was stupid too.

Role players have a really tough job on this team. Lebron and Russ dominate the ball too much.

We need melo and monk on the court for spacing, but why do we need spacing if lebron is going to just back up 3s like that?


Russ as stupid as his turnovers were…at least was aggressive. Lebron and AD played soft

Russ has 3 TOS, and has been down on TOS for a while now. Lebron had 7 by himself.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:20 pm    Post subject:

ZeroDark30_ wrote:
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Got killed on the offensive rebounds... I'm really done with AD playing the 5 to be honest.

Bradley needs to come off the bench... Start Reaves at this point. Good defender and good shooter.

Like Reaves but he doesn’t rebound nearly enough and no way he starts over the vets on this team.


It’s got nothing to do with the rebounds Reeves is a high IQ player that limits turnovers and creates turnovers His defense is needed so badly
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:21 pm    Post subject:

I put the blame on LBJ. Those 2 3point shots he did in the regulation and overtime are really bad. He should have driven it to the rim. I really wish the ball was on RW hand that time.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:23 pm    Post subject:

Lebron has to be told that he can’t always be the hero.
Man, it showed today.
Mortal behind that 3 point line…
So why continue shooting them?
Where is the spacing on this team?
Why do guys just stand around?
Does Vogel teach guys to move?
We have the worst offense I have ever seen in my 40+ years as a Lakers fan. Players camp out…they run out the clock and whoever has the ball, chucks up a 3…
Just pathetic…
And that’s just offense…

Defense…wow, some dudes getting smoked out there like Monk
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:24 pm    Post subject:

Tough loss. The guys played hard but just ran out of gas.

There was a lot of stupidity out there tonight by both the coaches and players, but Vogel can start by just eliminating the Jordan minutes entirely.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:25 pm    Post subject:

PinoyLBJFan wrote:
I put the blame on LBJ. Those 2 3point shots he did in the regulation and overtime are really bad. He should have driven it to the rim. I really wish the ball was on RW hand that time.


LBJ can no longer beat his man off the dribble. That's why he Jacks those up.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:26 pm    Post subject:

anth2000 wrote:
Lebron has to be told that he can’t always be the hero.
Man, it showed today.
Mortal behind that 3 point line…
So why continue shooting them?
Where is the spacing on this team?
Why do guys just stand around?
Does Vogel teach guys to move?
We have the worst offense I have ever seen in my 40+ years as a Lakers fan. Players camp out…they run out the clock and whoever has the ball, chucks up a 3…
Just pathetic…
And that’s just offense…

Defense…wow, some dudes getting smoked out there like Monk

I think we’ve seen plenty with guys standing around. Remember we had Kobe? It was always 4 guys watching Kobe do his work. Kobe is just a much better iso player and commands double team, teams are ok with coving lebron one on one even with their centers
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:26 pm    Post subject:

PinoyLBJFan wrote:
I put the blame on LBJ. Those 2 3point shots he did in the regulation and overtime are really bad. He should have driven it to the rim. I really wish the ball was on RW hand that time.


Tired legs. You can always tell when he starts holding the ball for 20 secs and everyone just stands there.

That’s on Vogel. Be a coach and make the team run a play.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:30 pm    Post subject:

anth2000 wrote:
So what, if anything, fixes this terrible team?


Aside from NBA 2k, a miracle.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:30 pm    Post subject:

Every time you feel the team has found something, they sunk into another low
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:32 pm    Post subject:

Lakers lose in triple OT 141-137.

Same step back after a step forward. Blew a 13 point 4th quarter lead. Yadda, yadda.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:32 pm    Post subject:

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Every time you feel the team has found something, they sunk into another low


Yup. Same story, different day.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:40 pm    Post subject:

Disappointing loss. They just seem to find new ways to lose.

Should never had gone into the first overtime.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:50 pm    Post subject:

If you’re going to run two man game at the end of the game with LBJ + AD or RW + AD - then at least have a Dwight or AB in to help with the defense.

Monk & Melo helped in the first OT. Just thought they weren’t as impactful in the last two OT’s. Just think we need some more defenders because we can’t keep playing defense like this. Our big 3 aren’t 26 and able to bring it on both ends.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:54 pm    Post subject:

ahaider wrote:
If you’re going to run two man game at the end of the game with LBJ + AD or RW + AD - then at least have a Dwight or AB in to help with the defense.

Monk & Melo helped in the first OT. Just thought they weren’t as impactful in the last two OT’s. Just think we need some more defenders because we can’t keep playing defense like this. Our big 3 aren’t 26 and able to bring it on both ends.

I mean Vogel can at least do offense defense subs after timeouts.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:56 pm    Post subject:

If you spotted this team a 30 point lead at the beginning of the game, I wonder how long it would take for them to blow it all entirely.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:44 am    Post subject:

Despite the lost tonight and how bad this team is right now, they are currently in 7th place and only 2 games out of 4th seed…
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:52 am    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
Despite the lost tonight and how bad this team is right now, they are currently in 7th place and only 2 games out of 4th seed…


Well their strength of schedule so far plays a big part in their record, but I do think their struggles seem way worse due to the sky high expectations for the team.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:15 am    Post subject:

Kobetan wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
Despite the lost tonight and how bad this team is right now, they are currently in 7th place and only 2 games out of 4th seed…


Well their strength of schedule so far plays a big part in their record, but I do think their struggles seem way worse due to the sky high expectations for the team.


They got 3/4 of the season left to figure it out but the next 5 games are crucial they need to go 4-1 or 5-0… 3-2 or less they have to make a move or fire Vogel. Something has to give.
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