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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:22 am    Post subject: Lakers legend Luke Walton fired as Head Coach of the Kings

A great injustice has been done.

https://www.nba.com/news/report-sacramento-kings-fire-coach-luke-walton-after-6-11-start
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:34 am    Post subject:

I didn't realize he was still coaching the Kings...

That probably says it all tbh.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:41 am    Post subject:

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I didn't realize he was still coaching the Kings...

That probably says it all tbh.


This guy has gradually been demoted…

Acting Head Coach of greatest regular season of all time with a 43-4 record.

Head Coach of the league’s most prominent franchise.

Head Coach of a bottomfeeding franchise.

Fired by bottomfeeding franchise.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:53 am    Post subject:

Anyone who becomes the coach of a crappy run team is gonna be fired at some point...

Kings,
Pelicans,
Knicks,

I'm sure there are more...
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:58 am    Post subject:

unleasHell wrote:
Anyone who becomes the coach of a crappy run team is gonna be fired at some point...

Kings,
Pelicans,
Knicks,
Lakers,

I'm sure there are more...


Fixed.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:58 pm    Post subject:

Probably still be there if they took Doncic.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:43 pm    Post subject:

unleasHell wrote:
Anyone who becomes the coach of a crappy run team is gonna be fired at some point...

Kings,
Pelicans,
Knicks,

I'm sure there are more...


This. Not much you can do with that
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:37 am    Post subject:

a fan puke on the court, after witnessing the Kings putrid attempt at playing basketball.

the Sacramento Kings had no other options left after that, but to fire Walton.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:02 pm    Post subject:

None of the coaches Mitch/Jim hired after Phil have head coaching jobs in the NBA right now. Of all of them, probably D'Antoni was the best, and that's not saying much as he's being compared with Scott, Brown and Walton (3 guys who have failed in epic proportions).

Pretty crazy some folks are so quick to want to move on from Vogel, a guy with a proven championship winning/contending level defensive system in 2 places (Indiana never won a ring but contended with his system, and we obviously won). There's level to this coaching thing, and Luke is not there. Not saying Sacto was all his fault, it probably wasn't. But he isn't a coach that can get his team to do anything better. Offense or defense.

Unless we have some elite coaching candidate in the bag, hang on to Vogel by all means. The grass is not always greener. We have one of the best defensive coaches in the league and one of the most level headed leaders in that capacity. He's a good rep. Luke looked all good on the outside, as did guys like Fisher, etc. but in the end they were novice.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:47 pm    Post subject:

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None of the coaches Mitch/Jim hired after Phil have head coaching jobs in the NBA right now. Of all of them, probably D'Antoni was the best, and that's not saying much as he's being compared with Scott, Brown and Walton (3 guys who have failed in epic proportions).

Pretty crazy some folks are so quick to want to move on from Vogel, a guy with a proven championship winning/contending level defensive system in 2 places (Indiana never won a ring but contended with his system, and we obviously won). There's level to this coaching thing, and Luke is not there. Not saying Sacto was all his fault, it probably wasn't. But he isn't a coach that can get his team to do anything better. Offense or defense.

Unless we have some elite coaching candidate in the bag, hang on to Vogel by all means. The grass is not always greener. We have one of the best defensive coaches in the league and one of the most level headed leaders in that capacity. He's a good rep. Luke looked all good on the outside, as did guys like Fisher, etc. but in the end they were novice.
Mitch is doing just fine in small market Charlotte.

Luke needed to go.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:39 pm    Post subject:

Probably needs to go coach in college. He will find more success there than coaching a bad team like the Kings.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:09 am    Post subject:

It is a blessing for Luke to be away from that train wreck of an organization.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:34 pm    Post subject:

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wolfpaclaker wrote:
None of the coaches Mitch/Jim hired after Phil have head coaching jobs in the NBA right now. Of all of them, probably D'Antoni was the best, and that's not saying much as he's being compared with Scott, Brown and Walton (3 guys who have failed in epic proportions).

Pretty crazy some folks are so quick to want to move on from Vogel, a guy with a proven championship winning/contending level defensive system in 2 places (Indiana never won a ring but contended with his system, and we obviously won). There's level to this coaching thing, and Luke is not there. Not saying Sacto was all his fault, it probably wasn't. But he isn't a coach that can get his team to do anything better. Offense or defense.

Unless we have some elite coaching candidate in the bag, hang on to Vogel by all means. The grass is not always greener. We have one of the best defensive coaches in the league and one of the most level headed leaders in that capacity. He's a good rep. Luke looked all good on the outside, as did guys like Fisher, etc. but in the end they were novice.
Mitch is doing just fine in small market Charlotte.

Luke needed to go.


I don't blame Luke too much for not winning in Sacramento, he just inherited a young raw team, which needed a lot of growing up. Same with the Lakers.

If I remember correctly, he had Russell, Ingram, and Randle with the Lakers, all were in their NBA infancy... then he moved to Sac who had Fox, Haliburton, and Bagley (who's dad clashed with Luke)... both 2 talented teams, but too young to be contenders.

still Luke had very nice gigs after his playing career.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 2:46 pm    Post subject:

Luke is one of my least favorite Laker players AND coaches.
as a player he handicapped the Lakers for years on end with his toxic contract after a overrated season where he just went on a red hot shooting streak for about a month. Overall he was a below average athlete, shooter, defender, rebounder. His one claim to fame was high basketball IQ which rarely materialized on the court but because he was teachers pet to PJ he got so many undeserved minutes. His biggest contribution to the Lakers was going to Phil and telling him that Ariza deserved more minutes than him.
As a coach he was way too hands off and nonchalant for a young team. He did not try to push our young core to greatness which I think is a big reason why they all had a disappointing tenure here.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:38 am    Post subject:

Vancouver Fan wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
None of the coaches Mitch/Jim hired after Phil have head coaching jobs in the NBA right now. Of all of them, probably D'Antoni was the best, and that's not saying much as he's being compared with Scott, Brown and Walton (3 guys who have failed in epic proportions).

Pretty crazy some folks are so quick to want to move on from Vogel, a guy with a proven championship winning/contending level defensive system in 2 places (Indiana never won a ring but contended with his system, and we obviously won). There's level to this coaching thing, and Luke is not there. Not saying Sacto was all his fault, it probably wasn't. But he isn't a coach that can get his team to do anything better. Offense or defense.

Unless we have some elite coaching candidate in the bag, hang on to Vogel by all means. The grass is not always greener. We have one of the best defensive coaches in the league and one of the most level headed leaders in that capacity. He's a good rep. Luke looked all good on the outside, as did guys like Fisher, etc. but in the end they were novice.
Mitch is doing just fine in small market Charlotte.

Luke needed to go.


Is he? The team may be 13-10 at the moment and has some nice young talent in Ball/Bridges, but the season is still young.

During Mitch's first 3 years there, they've had a .433 win % and haven't finished a season over .500 and haven't made the playoffs. Considering the Eastern Conference playoffs for the past 3 seasons have fielded teams at .500 or below, it's hard to say that Mitch has doing anything but a mediocre job to this point.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:36 pm    Post subject:

Lamar's Bud wrote:
Vancouver Fan wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
None of the coaches Mitch/Jim hired after Phil have head coaching jobs in the NBA right now. Of all of them, probably D'Antoni was the best, and that's not saying much as he's being compared with Scott, Brown and Walton (3 guys who have failed in epic proportions).

Pretty crazy some folks are so quick to want to move on from Vogel, a guy with a proven championship winning/contending level defensive system in 2 places (Indiana never won a ring but contended with his system, and we obviously won). There's level to this coaching thing, and Luke is not there. Not saying Sacto was all his fault, it probably wasn't. But he isn't a coach that can get his team to do anything better. Offense or defense.

Unless we have some elite coaching candidate in the bag, hang on to Vogel by all means. The grass is not always greener. We have one of the best defensive coaches in the league and one of the most level headed leaders in that capacity. He's a good rep. Luke looked all good on the outside, as did guys like Fisher, etc. but in the end they were novice.
Mitch is doing just fine in small market Charlotte.

Luke needed to go.


Is he? The team may be 13-10 at the moment and has some nice young talent in Ball/Bridges, but the season is still young.

During Mitch's first 3 years there, they've had a .433 win % and haven't finished a season over .500 and haven't made the playoffs. Considering the Eastern Conference playoffs for the past 3 seasons have fielded teams at .500 or below, it's hard to say that Mitch has doing anything but a mediocre job to this point.


This is considered success when Lakers fans are judging other teams

or maybe that's just VLF
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:45 pm    Post subject:

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Vancouver Fan wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
None of the coaches Mitch/Jim hired after Phil have head coaching jobs in the NBA right now. Of all of them, probably D'Antoni was the best, and that's not saying much as he's being compared with Scott, Brown and Walton (3 guys who have failed in epic proportions).

Pretty crazy some folks are so quick to want to move on from Vogel, a guy with a proven championship winning/contending level defensive system in 2 places (Indiana never won a ring but contended with his system, and we obviously won). There's level to this coaching thing, and Luke is not there. Not saying Sacto was all his fault, it probably wasn't. But he isn't a coach that can get his team to do anything better. Offense or defense.

Unless we have some elite coaching candidate in the bag, hang on to Vogel by all means. The grass is not always greener. We have one of the best defensive coaches in the league and one of the most level headed leaders in that capacity. He's a good rep. Luke looked all good on the outside, as did guys like Fisher, etc. but in the end they were novice.
Mitch is doing just fine in small market Charlotte.

Luke needed to go.


Is he? The team may be 13-10 at the moment and has some nice young talent in Ball/Bridges, but the season is still young.

During Mitch's first 3 years there, they've had a .433 win % and haven't finished a season over .500 and haven't made the playoffs. Considering the Eastern Conference playoffs for the past 3 seasons have fielded teams at .500 or below, it's hard to say that Mitch has doing anything but a mediocre job to this point.
It takes time to build a squad. They have nice young pieces surround by some solid vets. For the market he's in, he's doing just fine.
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Vancouver Fan wrote:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
None of the coaches Mitch/Jim hired after Phil have head coaching jobs in the NBA right now. Of all of them, probably D'Antoni was the best, and that's not saying much as he's being compared with Scott, Brown and Walton (3 guys who have failed in epic proportions).

Pretty crazy some folks are so quick to want to move on from Vogel, a guy with a proven championship winning/contending level defensive system in 2 places (Indiana never won a ring but contended with his system, and we obviously won). There's level to this coaching thing, and Luke is not there. Not saying Sacto was all his fault, it probably wasn't. But he isn't a coach that can get his team to do anything better. Offense or defense.

Unless we have some elite coaching candidate in the bag, hang on to Vogel by all means. The grass is not always greener. We have one of the best defensive coaches in the league and one of the most level headed leaders in that capacity. He's a good rep. Luke looked all good on the outside, as did guys like Fisher, etc. but in the end they were novice.
Mitch is doing just fine in small market Charlotte.

Luke needed to go.


Is he? The team may be 13-10 at the moment and has some nice young talent in Ball/Bridges, but the season is still young.

During Mitch's first 3 years there, they've had a .433 win % and haven't finished a season over .500 and haven't made the playoffs. Considering the Eastern Conference playoffs for the past 3 seasons have fielded teams at .500 or below, it's hard to say that Mitch has doing anything but a mediocre job to this point.


This is considered success when Lakers fans are judging other teams

or maybe that's just VLF
What are you talking about?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 1:28 pm    Post subject:

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Luke is one of my least favorite Laker players AND coaches.
as a player he handicapped the Lakers for years on end with his toxic contract after a overrated season where he just went on a red hot shooting streak for about a month. Overall he was a below average athlete, shooter, defender, rebounder. His one claim to fame was high basketball IQ which rarely materialized on the court but because he was teachers pet to PJ he got so many undeserved minutes. His biggest contribution to the Lakers was going to Phil and telling him that Ariza deserved more minutes than him.
As a coach he was way too hands off and nonchalant for a young team. He did not try to push our young core to greatness which I think is a big reason why they all had a disappointing tenure here.


if LeBron and Klutch are out of the picture, don't be surprised Jeanie hire Luke back in some type of capacity. she loves those ex-Lakers, especially from Show Time era and Phil Jackson coaching tree.
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if LeBron and Klutch are out of the picture, don't be surprised Jeanie hire Luke back in some type of capacity. she loves those ex-Lakers, especially from Show Time era and Phil Jackson coaching tree.


I hope not, he brings nothing.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:43 am    Post subject:

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wolfpaclaker wrote:
None of the coaches Mitch/Jim hired after Phil have head coaching jobs in the NBA right now. Of all of them, probably D'Antoni was the best, and that's not saying much as he's being compared with Scott, Brown and Walton (3 guys who have failed in epic proportions).

Pretty crazy some folks are so quick to want to move on from Vogel, a guy with a proven championship winning/contending level defensive system in 2 places (Indiana never won a ring but contended with his system, and we obviously won). There's level to this coaching thing, and Luke is not there. Not saying Sacto was all his fault, it probably wasn't. But he isn't a coach that can get his team to do anything better. Offense or defense.

Unless we have some elite coaching candidate in the bag, hang on to Vogel by all means. The grass is not always greener. We have one of the best defensive coaches in the league and one of the most level headed leaders in that capacity. He's a good rep. Luke looked all good on the outside, as did guys like Fisher, etc. but in the end they were novice.
Mitch is doing just fine in small market Charlotte.

Luke needed to go.


Mitch is still the best Laker GM since Jerry West. It is no surprise that Charlotte has turned the corner. Best thing that could have happened to him was getting away from the toxic Buss brats.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:08 pm    Post subject:

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wolfpaclaker wrote:
None of the coaches Mitch/Jim hired after Phil have head coaching jobs in the NBA right now. Of all of them, probably D'Antoni was the best, and that's not saying much as he's being compared with Scott, Brown and Walton (3 guys who have failed in epic proportions).

Pretty crazy some folks are so quick to want to move on from Vogel, a guy with a proven championship winning/contending level defensive system in 2 places (Indiana never won a ring but contended with his system, and we obviously won). There's level to this coaching thing, and Luke is not there. Not saying Sacto was all his fault, it probably wasn't. But he isn't a coach that can get his team to do anything better. Offense or defense.

Unless we have some elite coaching candidate in the bag, hang on to Vogel by all means. The grass is not always greener. We have one of the best defensive coaches in the league and one of the most level headed leaders in that capacity. He's a good rep. Luke looked all good on the outside, as did guys like Fisher, etc. but in the end they were novice.
Mitch is doing just fine in small market Charlotte.

Luke needed to go.


Mitch is still the best Laker GM since Jerry West. It is no surprise that Charlotte has turned the corner. Best thing that could have happened to him was getting away from the toxic Buss brats.
Absolutely.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:21 am    Post subject:

Mitch took over in 2018, middle of the season.

They've been 48-34, 36-46 and 36-46 the three seasons prior to him taking fully over.

39-43 1st season.
23-42 2nd season.
33-49 3rd full season.
17-17 in 4th season.

In that time, some of the transactions have been to give Gordan Hayward a 4/120M contract.

Other than drafting LaMelo Ball, there hasn't been one move that Mitch has made that made that team significantly better. In 4 years from where he took over for Rich Cho, they are exactly the same mediocre place they were before. Only difference is that they have a very exciting young player in LaMelo Ball. They have not even reached the peak they did in 2015-16 of 48 wins and 34 losses.

I think Mitch did a good job during his first portion of his Laker career, and was a very good negotiator in trades, but by the end he was awful. In Charlotte I agree without Jimmy, I am sure he may make better decisions. But 4 years into a job and you're still exactly where you were record wise when you began ... sorry not impressed.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 26, 2021 11:44 am    Post subject:

Four titles in 10 seasons is pretty good.
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Legend? Are you serious or is this sarcasm?
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