Should the Lakers Go All in on A Rebuild?

dcarter4kobe · Franchise Player Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 18026

This seems to be a small debate in multiple threads on this topic. Wanted to get a poll in to get a more accurate gage of how people feel. Lakers are really at a crossroads here. Not good enough to truly contend. But LeBron/AD will keep us in that 6-10 seed range.

3 options

1. Rebuild-Trade AD, DLO, Rui etc
-Would only work if we are able to get our 2025 pick back from NO similar to what the Nets did.
-Only AD might actually have value on this team besides Reaves.
2. Go All In-Trade the 3 1st to maximize the last 2 years of LeBron/AD.
3. Add around the edges without trading future parts
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SGV-Laker fan · Star Player Joined: 23 May 2013 Posts: 9413

the poll should be either rebuild or go all in. middle ground just buy front office/ownership time while fans suffer. we've been mess around the edges since 2020, and have gotten nowhere.

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ocho · Retired Number Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 54811

Yes to a rebuild. We are already in it whether we like it or not.
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SGV-Laker fan · Star Player Joined: 23 May 2013 Posts: 9413

this team even with a health LeBron and AD is NOT close to a title. trading for another aging star not gonna help either, while the team lose even more future assets. it's a no brainer, time for rebuild. fans are not dumb, can't just sell us the LeBron, AD picture like they were in their 20s.

BirdMagicLegend · Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 6:15 am Post subject:

I agree it's time for a rebuild but it would have to start with trading Lebron and AD. Let's do it!
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defense · Retired Number Joined: 12 Jan 2010 Posts: 40012

Yes, I think so. It doesn't mean we need to do anything crazy like trade AD. We should gather assets and try to come with a concrete plan.

Halflife · Franchise Player Joined: 15 Aug 2015 Posts: 17855

They should just play. Try to make smart moves and don’t pay 160 for 3. Rebuilds eventually happen regardless of what the FO thinks.
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Inspector Gadget · Retired Number Joined: 18 Apr 2016 Posts: 47485

If 34 year old KD can get you Sengun and other assets then AD should be able to bring us a major haul

lakersfever714 · Franchise Player Joined: 05 Jan 2016 Posts: 12639

Rebuild with Pelinka? Risky. I'd want to see a new GM if we were to rebuild. Look at Foston, good GMs make a lot of good decisions over a course of a decade and look at where they are now.

jodeke · Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:20 am Post subject:

IMO the Lakers should build around the edges and prepare for LALBJ (Life After LeBron James) I've been saying that for a while. We have a solid young core. We should develop it and draft wisely. I said before and I'll repeat it. Do as the hated Celtics did, draft and develop. The Lakers win now formula isn't working. Patience is key.
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LakersRGolden · Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:49 am Post subject:

Hanging from Rafters · Star Player Joined: 31 Jul 2018 Posts: 4922

We just saw what Dallas did…and no they didn’t win a title but…they went from missing the playin (tanked it but still a playin before) to playing in the championship game by adding two role type players. The Lakers have a chance to compete for a title with LBJ/AD if they commit by adding the players to fill the holes in backcourt defense and frontcourt rebounding without downgrading existing production.

Why would delaying the inevitable lottery tour for 2 more years matter if there is a chance for a ship now? Competing for a ship is rare, being in the lottery is guaranteed, and teams typically stay there in the lottery wallowing in failure for at least a decade before contending again. DO WHAT IS RARE!!!

Sadly I don’t think it matters because the FO doesn’t appear to me to be representative of the historic past Lakers as they are more interested in draft picks and luxury tax like so many fans instead of competing. It’s illogical denial imo to pretend the Lakers aren’t in a position to add the right pieces to compete.

Even the team as is looks like it had a CHANCE TO WIN A TITLE THIS PAST SEASON if Wood/Vando/Cam weren’t hurt (backcourt defense/frontcourt rebounding), and Vincent wasn’t an almost total waste with his production while facing coaching challenges. Had Ham just played Max Christie enough for Wood/Vando/Cam to get healthy it could have easily turned out differently. And no…I’m not saying those injuries were to all star type players…the injuries weren’t to overall game changers but the margin of losses were so close that any incremental improvement can be imagined to put the Lakers in ship contention.

Why does it matter to rush to the lottery if there is a chance for a title even if it’s a long shot? The Lakers could be there in the lottery forna long time and not win a ship for the next:

8 years (72 to 80),
or 12 years (88 to 00),
or 7 years (02 to 09),
or 10 years (10 to 20).

Considering the time it has taken in the past to get back to a ship winner, 2 more years of trying shouldn’t be a reason to rush a re-build that’s likely gonna take 8-10 years either way.

We think differently, call me delusional and I’ll own it, I call the opposite LOSERS who are afraid of trying because it looks hard so they would rather quit. Sure, it avoids the pain of trying and possibly failing, but quitting and not trying feels worse to me and the prolonged pain of a lottery tour…knowing I didn’t try…for me would be weak arse loser shat. That’s my stance, I think it’s ingrained psychologically so no you aren’t gonna change my mind, and since it is ingrained, I realize I won’t change yours either. We just see things a different way. By yours I’m not speaking to any one person, it’s directed to all who prefer to quit.
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dcarter4kobe · Franchise Player Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 18026

Also...The West is LOADED.

1. OKC-Will be back stronger and better. Still have 30mill in cap space to spend
2. Nuggets-Hoping they lose KCP
3. Minny-Will likely be same team. Conley year older
4. Clippers-Hoping PG leaves in free agency.
5. Mavs-Full year of Gafford/Washington. Will likely trade THJ for an upgrade
6. Suns-Maybe not true contenders but still won 50 games with Beal missing 30 games
7. Pelicans-No idea what they look like after Ingram trade. Val likely leaving
8. Kings-Was hoping Monk left
9. Warriors-Will probably be on outside looking in
10. Rockets-They are dangerous. Young solid core+Vets+Trade assets. Believe they will make a big move. PG?
11. Grizz-Slept on team no one is talking about. They will be back
12. Spurs-Wemby+2 lottery picks. Really hoping they dont end up with Clingan or they will have the best defense for the next decade.
13. Jazz-Sounds like they are ready to cash in on some draft picks and make a big trade.

Only for sure terrible team is Portland (and as of right now they even have solid vets if healthy, Grant/Brogdon/Williams/Ayton)
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AD is practically the entire defense, so if you want a high chance of not giving the Pels a lottery pick next season, you have to keep him around. Otherwise trading him right now plays right into the Pels' hands.

That's why I recommend a soft rebuild around AD. Surround him with scrappy 3 and D guys and hope that they build a foundation strong enough to attract free agents. It's all about culture and foundation now.

JJ has a monumental task ahead of him.
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lakersken80 · Retired Number Joined: 12 Aug 2009 Posts: 39039

They should but they won't. Jeanie doesn't know anything else.

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QuadDouble · Starting Rotation Joined: 05 Jan 2015 Posts: 225

lakers are clearly going all in. what they should do and shouldn't do is another topic. get ready for 3 years of Lebron and no picks.

if there's a silver lining- look at what Brooklyn just did. we can get a similar / bigger haul for ad if it doesn't work out.
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trmiv · Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 8:58 am Post subject:

Rebuild. This team with Lebron and AD as the core is past their championship window, yet we deal with the same high expectations every year. Also, this is sort of a selfish reason, but as a fan on the east coast they have become a chore to watch regularly. Nothing worse than staying up until 1am on a work night while they piss away a game in the 4th quarter. I’m ready to watch a young team with no expectations for awhile and see a rebuild unfold. Now, I’m not saying Rob and crew is the right team for the job, but as of now it’s what we’ve got.