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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:48 pm    Post subject:

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Kershaw breaking down?


It's that time of year. About time his back acts up.


Hopefully Pepiot gets the call next time Kershaw's turn comes up. Looks like this will be another lengthy DL stint for Kershaw with little time to ramp up for the postseason, fortunately we "May" have some starting pitching options to cover for Clayton.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:49 pm    Post subject:

We were going to have May make 2 more starts in the minors. Maybe his timeline gets accelerated now.

Here comes Kimbrel with a 3-run lead.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:51 pm    Post subject:

Oh boy here we go again. Another interesting inning with Kimbrel.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:56 pm    Post subject:

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Oh boy here we go again. Another interesting inning with Kimbrel.


Hardly a lights out performance
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 2:59 pm    Post subject:

Dodgers continuing to use Kimbrel is like someone using an old lawnmower that they're going to replace soon. As long as it somehow still does the job, you're gonna just keep using it until you run it into the ground.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:12 pm    Post subject:

Too many meetings today so missed most of the game.

Did Kershaw hurt his back again?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 3:17 pm    Post subject:

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Too many meetings today so missed most of the game.

Did Kershaw hurt his back again?


lower back
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:12 pm    Post subject:

Padres finally lost with their shiny new toys, 12.5 game lead heading into the weekend showdown series!

Fri. Manaea vs. Gonsolin
Sat. Clevinger vs. Heaney
Sun. Darvish vs. Anderson
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:54 pm    Post subject:

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Padres finally lost with their shiny new toys, 12.5 game lead heading into the weekend showdown series!

Fri. Manaea vs. Gonsolin
Sat. Clevinger vs. Heaney
Sun. Darvish vs. Anderson


We're 3-0 since the deadline and they're 2-1. Looks like we won the deadline...lol.

And no Blake Snell this weekend so we should be good
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:02 pm    Post subject:

Somehow I missed this:

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Brewers DFA Dinelson Lamet Days After Acquiring Him in Josh Hader Deal....

The Brewers announced a slew of moves Wednesday, one of which that they had designated both Dinelson Lamet and Pedro Severino for assignment. Even though Lamet has had a very rough season in a full-time relief role, the move to DFA him was a surprise because he had just been acquired Monday from the Padres in the trade that sent Josh Hader to San Diego.

“Dinelson has a good arm and was included in the trade to help balance out the deal,” Brewers president of baseball operations David Stearns explained. “As subsequent transactions played out, the roster fit became a little tougher. We are hopeful we will be able to keep him in our system.”


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Brewers lose Dinelson Lamet on waivers to Rockies, days after acquiring him in Josh Hader trade


Lamet was able to reject an optional assignment based on his service time

The Colorado Rockies announced on Friday that they had claimed right-handed pitcher Dinelson Lamet off waivers from the Milwaukee Brewers. (Fellow righty Ashton Goudeau was designated for assignment in a corresponding move.) Lamet's addition to the Rockies caps off an unusual week of transactions involving him, the most notable of which occurred on Monday, when he was sent to Milwaukee as part of the four-player return in the Josh Hader trade.

Just how did Lamet go from being viewed by the Brewers as a player worth trading for to being subjected to the waiver wire in a matter of days -- and before he ever suited up with Milwaukee? It has less to do with anything he did, and more to do with the rules governing service time and optional assignments.

The short version goes like this. Any player with at least five years of big-league service time can reject an optional assignment. Lamet, by virtue of having more than five years of service time, was within his rights to reject that assignment. The Brewers had a numbers crunch on their roster -- remember, teams can carry a maximum of 13 pitchers now -- and so he ended up being the odd man out.

The amusing wrinkle -- though perhaps not for the Brewers -- is that they would have been able to send down Lamet had the trade accrued earlier in the year.

Indeed, Lamet entered the season needing 42 more days to clear the five-year mark. The Padres were free to option him as they desired, something they did on a couple of occasions. They brought him back to the majors on July 26 and after that point, he accrued enough service time to clear five years and gain this power.

The Brewers, for their part, were hoping Lamet would clear waivers and remain with the organization. Instead, he'll attempt to salvage his season (and, in a sense, his career) as a member of the Rockies organization.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 12:50 pm    Post subject:

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Just inexcusable from the Brewers. I wonder if they were even aware that he couldn't be sent down. Either way, it's gross negligence on their part. They should have either had a different pitcher included in the deal (one that they could have sent to the minors or one who was already a minor leaguer), or had a position player prospect included instead.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:06 pm    Post subject:

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Just inexcusable from the Brewers. I wonder if they were even aware that he couldn't be sent down. Either way, it's gross negligence on their part. They should have either had a different pitcher included in the deal (one that they could have sent to the minors or one who was already a minor leaguer), or had a position player prospect included instead.


We should have snagged him. Forced him to get TJ and stashed him away until he was ready. Super low risk, extreme reward given the talent he showed (people thought he'd be a frontline ace).
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:06 pm    Post subject:

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Just inexcusable from the Brewers. I wonder if they were even aware that he couldn't be sent down. Either way, it's gross negligence on their part. They should have either had a different pitcher included in the deal (one that they could have sent to the minors or one who was already a minor leaguer), or had a position player prospect included instead.


We should have snagged him. Forced him to get TJ and stashed him away until he was ready. Super low risk, extreme reward given the talent he showed (people thought he'd be a frontline ace).
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:45 pm    Post subject:

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The Dodgers activated IF/OF Chris Taylor from the injured list, recalled RHP Reyes Moronta, optioned OF James Outman and placed LHP Clayton Kershaw on the injured list with low back pain.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:46 pm    Post subject:

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Just inexcusable from the Brewers. I wonder if they were even aware that he couldn't be sent down. Either way, it's gross negligence on their part. They should have either had a different pitcher included in the deal (one that they could have sent to the minors or one who was already a minor leaguer), or had a position player prospect included instead.


We should have snagged him. Forced him to get TJ and stashed him away until he was ready. Super low risk, extreme reward given the talent he showed (people thought he'd be a frontline ace).


We had no shot at him. It's not like the Padres would have traded him to us, and the Rockies claimed him on waivers.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:59 pm    Post subject:

^

Plus since he refuses to accept an assignment to the minors, he'd have to be put on the active roster for the rest of the season. I don't think we're ready for that. The Rockies can.

He's making $4.8M this year with one arbitration year left next yr. I don't think you can go down in salary in arbitration, so it'll cost at least $4.8M next year for the Rockies to retain him.

He seems like a prime candidate to be non tendered, so we can pick him up in the offseason, maybe on a minor league deal if no other team is interested?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:08 pm    Post subject:

Taylor is hitting 5th tonight in his return to the lineup. Alberto is in there at 3B and batting 6th. No Muncy. No Lux against the lefty, either. Trayce is in there in LF (and batting 8th), with Taylor at 2B. I probably would have kept Lux in there, as Trayce is better vs. righties. Oh, and Vargas is the DH, hitting 7th. Bellinger is in there but at least he's hitting 9th, where he should be.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:22 pm    Post subject:

This is good news. He would help if he can get right...


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Tommy Kahnle said he threw a 25 pitch bullpen today. It’s been his third bullpen since returning to IL. #Dodgers
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:30 pm    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
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ChickenStu wrote:
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Just inexcusable from the Brewers. I wonder if they were even aware that he couldn't be sent down. Either way, it's gross negligence on their part. They should have either had a different pitcher included in the deal (one that they could have sent to the minors or one who was already a minor leaguer), or had a position player prospect included instead.


We should have snagged him. Forced him to get TJ and stashed him away until he was ready. Super low risk, extreme reward given the talent he showed (people thought he'd be a frontline ace).


We had no shot at him. It's not like the Padres would have traded him to us, and the Rockies claimed him on waivers.


I meant off waivers and it was more of a hope than a dictate, but yeah
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 3:34 pm    Post subject:

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Ryan Pepiot likely to make the start next time Clayton Kershaw’s day to pitch comes around. #Dodgers
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:02 pm    Post subject:

1/5 of our remaining games are against SD
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:02 pm    Post subject:

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Ryan Pepiot likely to make the start next time Clayton Kershaw’s day to pitch comes around. #Dodgers


as expected
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:11 pm    Post subject:

Looks like the Brewers did have room for him until they picked up Trevor Rosenthal later that day.

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After the Hader trade, the Brewers brought in reliever Matt Bush on Monday from the Texas Rangers for two minor leaguers, left-hander Antoine Kelly and utilityman Mark Mathias. They then acquired reliever Trevor Rosenthal from the San Francisco Giants on Tuesday.

"Dinelson has a good arm and was included in the trade to help balance out the deal," Brewers president of baseball operations David Stearns said Wednesday. "As subsequent transactions played out, the roster fit became a little tougher. We are hopeful we will be able to keep him in our system."
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:48 pm    Post subject:

Hanser has come alive.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:59 pm    Post subject:

But Gonsolin is fading. Has no putaway pitch so far. They are fouling off everything with 2 strikes.
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